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#176836 - 14/09/2003 13:22 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: StigOE]
RobotCaleb
pooh-bah

Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
haha, intel based what??



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#176837 - 15/09/2003 03:08 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: RobotCaleb]
StigOE
addict

Registered: 27/10/2002
Posts: 568
Might be that GL Excess didn't like my dual PIII 1GHz setup....

Stig

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#176838 - 16/09/2003 14:54 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: tfabris]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
You just need to run the Detonator 50 drivers. The quality is a bit lower, but the frame rates much increased. Demonstrated in the attached screen capture of the Dawn demo.


Bruno


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#176839 - 16/09/2003 14:55 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: hybrid8]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Juvenile, but funny.
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#176840 - 16/09/2003 16:36 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: hybrid8]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31549
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, that made me laugh out loud.

Interestingly, the real Dawn demo refuses to run on my system. I think perhaps because it's not Windows XP. Even though their little SDK (cg.dll) doesn't say anything about XP being a requirement, I get a page fault in cg.dll when trying to run any of their recent demos.
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#176841 - 02/10/2003 05:38 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5679
Loc: London, UK
How's this for bad timing. Damn you Valve. HL2 is 3 days late.
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#176842 - 06/12/2004 15:37 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5679
Loc: London, UK
My new PC at work:




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#176843 - 06/12/2004 16:59 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Heh, I hadn't thought about this test for my work machine:


(sorry about the colors. I only have Paint on this PC. it's not very good with GIFs)


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#176844 - 07/12/2004 06:34 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: drakino]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
New system. This one has the advantage over the Shuttle of just fitting into a backpack and including a screen. It's a Dell plastic brick, err, Inspiron 9100.



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#176845 - 29/12/2004 00:52 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: drakino]
davekirk
journeyman

Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 56
Loc: Las Vegas
This one is from my brand new home system, Falcon Northwest Fragbox 2.




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#176846 - 29/12/2004 10:07 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: davekirk]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Is my new system running too slow ?




I didn't expect the X300SE to be the fastest 3D card in the world, but I am surprised that my system seems to be very slow in the Doom 3 demo and the benchmarks that I have tried.


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Edited by andy (29/12/2004 10:11)

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#176847 - 29/12/2004 19:33 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: andy]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
The x300/x600 both use a newer variant of the chips used on the Radeon 9600 line. With the x300, it is basicially a PCI-e version of the Radeon 9550, an oddly slower card released by ATI recently.

It seems in the video card arena, $200 is still around the price point you need to pay to be able to play the more modern games. The PCIe cards that fit that range would be the NVidia 6600 GT or the Radeon x700. Benchmarks ont hese cards against the other PCIe boards is here. It seems very few sites even looked at the x300 much.

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#176848 - 29/12/2004 19:35 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: drakino]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Still, there must be something not right. I've got a 9700 AIW but a much slower system than he does, and my score is nearly three times as high. I would have thought the X300 would at the very least be better than my card, and that coupled with a better system it would give him far better scores than I got.
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#176849 - 29/12/2004 19:59 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Dignan]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Nope. The 9700(R300) is a very good chip for what it cost and wasn't designed to do much beyond push pixels very quickly. The heat and power pull was the highest ATi shipped at the time, but was still a one slot solution. The x300 (RV370) is on the other hand a chip built more for low power/heat mobile use (most RV products turn into mobile solutions as well).

The low end of a new product line is rarley better then what the near high end was in the last generation. For example, it took on average a Radeon 9500 or above to beat the Radeon 8500. In most cases, the 9000/9100/9200 cards were noticibly slower then the 8500.

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#176850 - 29/12/2004 21:13 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: drakino]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Hey, good to know! I don't like the AIW part of my card, so if I upgrade sometime soon, I may get the non-AIW 9700.
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#176851 - 29/03/2006 13:02 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5679
Loc: London, UK
Ah, that's even better:




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#176852 - 29/03/2006 14:35 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Showoff.
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#176853 - 29/03/2006 19:56 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: wfaulk]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5679
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
Showoff.


Heh.

That's with my shiny new nVidia 7900 GTX Extreme 512. Damn thing doesn't have x64 drivers yet, though...
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#176854 - 29/03/2006 22:38 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
RobotCaleb
pooh-bah

Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Intel based | Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.13GHz | 2127@2132 MHz | 2047 MB RAM | Windows XP | nVIDIA | GeForce Go 7800 GTX/PCI/SSE2
Laptop
19474 - XSMARKS
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#176855 - 29/03/2006 23:52 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Roger]
Waterman981
old hand

Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Close, but not quite... (Dual 6800GT's in SLI)



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Edited by Waterman981 (29/03/2006 23:54)

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#176856 - 30/03/2006 01:18 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: Waterman981]
lectric
pooh-bah

Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
OK, how does one get these results? When I run the demo, it just runs the demo. I don't see how to get the timings.

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#176857 - 30/03/2006 01:43 Re: 3D Card bug? [Re: lectric]
RobotCaleb
pooh-bah

Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Don't run the demo. Run the benchmark.

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