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#178068 - 07/09/2003 12:21 Friendster?
ricin
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I know there are a few here signed up, but who else?
I signed up a few days ago I've got to say I like it.
I only have one friend, but that put 6,676 people in my Personal Network. Not that it'll do me any good.
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#178069 - 07/09/2003 14:07 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
xanatos
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Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
Yeah I signed up a while ago. I have 12 friends and 42,824 people.

damien at punched dot us if anyone wants to add me :P
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#178070 - 08/09/2003 10:51 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
DWallach
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I've been playing with Friendster for a while now, mostly because two separate friends of mine sucked me into it. I've added 12 friends and my "personal network" has some 211296 people in it. I feel so connected to the universe. Probably the most entertaining thing is when you click on some random person and Friendster gives you several disjoint paths from you to them.

One of the weird things about Friendster is that there are a bunch of virtual things in there that you can be friends with (cities, schools, etc.). I suppose somebody here should create the "empeg" person if we want to keep up with the geekiness.

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#178071 - 08/09/2003 10:56 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
tonyc
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if we want to keep up with the geekiness.
Yes, because we're dangerously short on geekiness around here.
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#178072 - 08/09/2003 17:05 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
canuckInOR
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Loc: Portland, OR
One thing I'm curious about is... if you don't want to pester anyone into signing up with you, how do you go about looking to see if there's anyone you know already signed up that you can add as a friend, when it'll only show you your friends?

Oh, and anyone connected to Kevin Bacon, yet?

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#178073 - 09/09/2003 08:02 Re: Friendster? [Re: canuckInOR]
DWallach
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You can search for first and last name, or you can search for somebody's e-mail address. If that person is "in your network" (reachable in the friend-graph using less than some number of hops, I presume), then you can click on the resulting links to verify you've got the right person. If they're not reachable from you, you can't click to verify, but you can blindly invite them to be your friend.

It's clunky, but that's the general idea.

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#178074 - 09/09/2003 08:24 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
morrisdl
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Registered: 21/08/2000
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Loc: Rochester, NY USA
Interesting...

I just signed up - dolebomo at yahoo. Feel free to add me, I am currious what the invite looks like.
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#178075 - 09/09/2003 09:18 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
RobotCaleb
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Loc: Austin
i added a random person. invited rather. they accepted. and have never shown up in my personal network or whatever. its still empty. that was like a week ago
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#178076 - 09/09/2003 09:22 Re: Friendster? [Re: RobotCaleb]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
OK. I'll try this thing out.

rob [at] spmicro [dot] com
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#178077 - 09/09/2003 10:34 Re: Friendster? [Re: robricc]
DWallach
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Okay, I've invited all of you to be my friends. Viral marketing at its finest.

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#178078 - 09/09/2003 10:39 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
ricin
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Oh, forgot to mention: donato.AT.sinicco.org if anyone wants to add me.
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#178079 - 09/09/2003 10:42 Re: Friendster? [Re: canuckInOR]
DWallach
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Oh, and anyone connected to Kevin Bacon, yet?

I did a search for Kevin Bacon and it came up with maybe 30 people, most of whom have the actor's photo as their own. I seem to be "connected" to eight of them. Some of the connections seem more tenuous than others, e.g.:

You <-> Erik <-> Gay Agenda <-> Jesus <-> Kevin

So, there you go. My possible connection to Kevin Bacon. Unfortunately, if I click on "Jesus", it says "Account Unavailable". Maybe he'll be coming back later.

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#178080 - 09/09/2003 12:07 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
morrisdl
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Registered: 21/08/2000
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Loc: Rochester, NY USA
I have asked Kevin to be my friend
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#178081 - 09/09/2003 12:39 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
mwest
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Loc: Ada, Oklahoma
I'd bet my life on it...
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#178082 - 09/09/2003 13:22 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
tonyc
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Maybe he'll be coming back later.
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#178083 - 09/09/2003 15:09 Re: Friendster? [Re: morrisdl]
talmou
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Oh well, I'll give it a go.

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#178084 - 09/09/2003 17:00 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
DWallach
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While we're talking about Friendster, some of you may find tribe.net to be interesting as well. Where Friendster only has a notion of people, thus forcing people to create "fakesters" around which they can group themselves, tribe.net has an explicit notion of tribes. We could, for example, create an empeg tribe, and we'd automatically get a message board, notification service, and other features around the empeg tribe.

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#178085 - 09/09/2003 19:46 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
tonyc
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Okay, I'm giving into the peer pressure. tonycpsu (at) yahoo (dot) com
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#178086 - 09/09/2003 20:02 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
tonyc
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We could, for example, create an empeg tribe, and we'd automatically get a message board, notification service, and other features around the empeg tribe.
Kinda sounds like what we already get on the BBS.

Seriously though, tribenet does look like a much better concept... The hart part is getting everyone to join one of these little community deals. My friends are lazy and will expect me to just call them... Trying to impress upon them the coolness and usefulness of something like Friendster is hard to do... But Friendster does seem to be gaining some popularity, at least in our geekish circles.
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#178087 - 09/09/2003 20:13 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
ricin
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Yeah, I've actually been signed up there since the 1st. I like the interface, but there really aren't that many people signed up. I created an Empeg Owners tribe but the site crapped out when it got created and now it's all screwed up (that's bad coding there). I've sent an email to see if they can correct it.
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#178088 - 10/09/2003 06:08 Re: Friendster? [Re: morrisdl]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
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Just signed up and invited all from this thread. :-)

But please explain, what's the "Kevin Bacon" thing?

cheers, Thomas
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#178089 - 10/09/2003 06:20 Re: Friendster? [Re: speedy67]
Roger
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The assigning of Bacon numbers to actors. Mathematicians have an Erdos number.

http://oracleofbacon.org/oracle/index.html
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#178090 - 10/09/2003 07:45 Re: Friendster? [Re: Roger]
tonyc
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I just tried ten or twelve actors/actresses and couldn't get a Bacon Number higher than 2. Seems to me the use of really obscure actors and actresses makes it much easier to find shorter paths... When I've played this game most people need at least 4 or 5 hops.

Woohoo, using Charlie Chaplin I finally got a Bacon Number of 3.
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#178091 - 10/09/2003 08:18 Re: Friendster? [Re: tonyc]
Roger
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I just tried ten or twelve actors/actresses and couldn't get a Bacon Number higher than 2.

One game which can be fun to try is to make a "Bacon loop". Pick any actor/actress, and try, using the standard rule, to make a loop that ends back at that actor/actress, without any repeats (film or actor). Longest loop wins.
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#178092 - 10/09/2003 09:28 Re: Friendster? [Re: speedy67]
Dignan
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I've heard it more commonly referred to as "six degrees of Kevin Bacon." I'm guessing that someone was watching a Kevin Bacon movie one day, and decided to use him as a model for this movie trivia game, it just stuck, and became a nation-wide thing. In fact, Kevin himself appeared in a Visa commercial spoofing the idea.

*edit*
I was pretty close
Here's the book


Edited by DiGNAN17 (10/09/2003 09:30)
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#178093 - 10/09/2003 09:46 Re: Friendster? [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
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Posts: 31584
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, it's scary. The harder you try to find a high number, the more surprised you get. I tried Fred Schneider (as in the guy in the band the B-52's... I thought he'd never even been in any films) and he had a 2.
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#178094 - 10/09/2003 09:52 Re: Friendster? [Re: Dignan]
JeffS
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
Apparently the book is wrong about Julia Louis-Dreyfus needing all six degrees according to oracle of bacon. Of course the book was written 4 years before "hollow man" so you can't really blame it.
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#178095 - 10/09/2003 10:55 Re: Friendster? [Re: tfabris]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5915
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
While look at the Bacon site again I came across a very strange site. The "Female Celebrity Smoking List", a site which catalogues which actresses smoke in which movies. Too strange, somebody is oddly obscessed...

http://smokingsides.com/asfs/
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#178096 - 10/09/2003 11:00 Re: Friendster? [Re: JeffS]
tonyc
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Funny, if you reverse the two, it finds a different path...
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#178097 - 10/09/2003 11:58 Re: Friendster? [Re: JeffS]
Dignan
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Plus, they were the first to do the game. They didn't have the benefit of a UVA IMDb database-driven Bacon oracle
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#178098 - 10/09/2003 13:32 Re: Friendster? [Re: tonyc]
speedy67
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Posts: 342
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Even with german actors i could't get more than 3...

cheers, Thomas
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#178099 - 10/09/2003 13:36 Re: Friendster? [Re: speedy67]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
Posts: 342
Loc: South-West-Germany
There are now 3238 people in my personal network, but only 3 from germany. :-(

cheers, Thomas
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#178100 - 10/09/2003 13:43 Re: Friendster? [Re: speedy67]
JeffS
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According to their database, the maximum is 8. I couldn't get above 2 (not that I really tried, though. Work does get in the way of this sort of thing!).
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#178101 - 10/09/2003 15:02 Re: Friendster? [Re: JeffS]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
ermm. edward norton and vin diesel both get 9's. not from bacon. but they have someone who is nine from them.

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#178102 - 11/09/2003 00:20 Re: Friendster? [Re: speedy67]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
Ditto. Yay for viral marketing, I guess. Y'all caught me in a state of boredom. Dang it... hurry up, laundry!

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#178103 - 11/09/2003 09:06 Re: Friendster? [Re: tonyc]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Blah. Might as well join in and see what happens

tman_friendster (at) trejan (dot) com

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#178104 - 11/09/2003 09:16 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Someone tell me why it is that I want to sign up for this. I don't get it. I already dislike most of my friends' friends. Why should I expect this to be any different? Are there chat rooms? Or am I supposed to contact people one-on-one?
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#178105 - 11/09/2003 10:14 Re: Friendster? [Re: wfaulk]
ricin
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It's more than just meeting your friends' friends. Maybe there's a friend of one of your friends' friends that you'd get along with? Or for us single people, there might be someone 5 degrees away from us through one of our friends that we could start a relationship with. It's all about networking. If anything, it's neat to just see who you're connected to. <shrug>

There aren't any chat rooms, it's all testimonials, bulletin board postings and one-on-one conversations.
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#178106 - 11/09/2003 12:48 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
darwin
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Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 205
okay, so i signed up for this thing, so you guys better accept my friend's approval. darwin at clsfs.com

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#178107 - 12/09/2003 01:23 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
canuckInOR
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If anything, it's neat to just see who you're connected to.
Yeah. I thought it was neat, as well. Then I discovered that half the people I'm "connected" to in my area are links through "Los Angeles", which means, for all intents and purposes, once I hit that link, anything beyond is just a random stranger. Sort of defeats the purpose, IMHO.

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#178108 - 12/09/2003 01:29 Re: Friendster? [Re: canuckInOR]
ricin
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Yeah, that's one part I don't like about it. I look over those kinds of connections unless it's something rare and/or a hobby of some sort.
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#178109 - 12/09/2003 07:06 Re: Friendster? [Re: ricin]
tman
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Considering everybody in my list is from here and nobody is actually in the UK apart from me...

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#178110 - 12/09/2003 08:39 Re: Friendster? [Re: canuckInOR]
DWallach
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Then I discovered that half the people I'm "connected" to in my area are links through "Los Angeles", which means, for all intents and purposes, once I hit that link, anything beyond is just a random stranger. Sort of defeats the purpose, IMHO.

Try tribe.net for a better designed if lesser populated solution to the problem. (They've only been online for something like two months vs. a year for Friendster.) The tribe.net solution would be to have a "Los Angeles" tribe to which you could join yourself, but which wouldn't appear explicitly as a node in the friend graph.

Friendster, such as it is, still has some value, but it doesn't get really interesting until your friends start discovering you. My sister and a New York friend of mine separately "invited" me to join Friendster. Okay, sure, whatever. After I was there, several other friends "found" me there and added me in. Clicking on them, I was able to find one or two common friends and add them to my own list. And, so it went.

Friendster is a toy. tribe.net has the potential to be a fair bit more than just a toy. (A friend of mine is one of the founders of tribe.net, so I probably can't repeat all the grandiose plans he told me.)

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#178111 - 12/09/2003 09:45 Re: Friendster? [Re: wfaulk]
genixia
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Someone tell me why it is that I want to sign up for this. I don't get it. I already dislike most of my friends' friends.

LOL. The only use I can thing for it is to rid my life of all those Sobig bounce messages.
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#178112 - 12/09/2003 11:05 Re: Friendster? [Re: genixia]
julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
OK, just for a lark, I've joined both friendster and tribe.net. Feel free to add me to your networks.... I'm julf at julf dot com

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#178113 - 15/09/2003 07:10 Re: Friendster? [Re: julf]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
Posts: 342
Loc: South-West-Germany
i'm now in tribe.net, too...
speedy67 at gmx dot de

cheers, Thomas
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#178114 - 16/09/2003 21:45 Re: Friendster? [Re: speedy67]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Well I just got on friendster... waterman981 at hotmail dot com. Everyone add me!
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#178115 - 13/10/2003 19:52 Re: Friendster? [Re: DWallach]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
another one
at least, appears to be
i havent checked it out. got invited today. decided, no
http://www.ringo.com/

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#178116 - 14/10/2003 06:52 Re: Friendster? [Re: JeffS]
phaigh
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