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#183734 - 08/10/2003 19:21 I got mine too :)
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I got mine today.

I can't see how anyone could say it's bulky. I'm uploading right now and haven't played with it too much the interface looks similar to the Riot.

The smiley Karma is cute

So far the only complaint is that the headphone cord isn't long enough to put the player in my pocket with the earphones in.
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#183735 - 08/10/2003 21:29 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Here's my first question. What is the connector on the top next to the headphone jack for ?
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#183736 - 08/10/2003 21:45 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
I recall (it's hazy now) Rob saying that it was for programming during production. I may well be wrong...I know I've seen other conjecture - wired remote etc. Rob?

-Zeke
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#183737 - 08/10/2003 22:41 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: Ezekiel]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
It's for a wired remote (which may or may not be released).

Rob

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#183738 - 08/10/2003 22:44 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Here's another question.

How do I insert tracks or can't I do this. I though I read that the Karma would support this.
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#183739 - 08/10/2003 22:45 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Go to Now Playing view (press the stick), use the wheel to scroll to the position at which you want to insert, press the wheel, utilise the menu that appears.

Rob

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#183740 - 08/10/2003 22:52 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: rob]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Awesome thanks. I looked at the book I swear.
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#183741 - 09/10/2003 03:01 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: rob]
furtive
old hand

Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
Gggrrrrr..

Release the remote. Everyone wants it. I still don't see the logic behind not releasing it.
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#183742 - 09/10/2003 05:35 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: furtive]
JaBZ
addict

Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
well the interface is there! as I said somewhere else it'd a waste not to release it.... a no brainer....

Jai

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#183743 - 09/10/2003 06:39 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: furtive]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Well, if I had to guess I'd figure the logic goes this way: wait and see how Karma sells, and see if spending the $$ to open production molds, procure parts, assemble & packaging same is going to be worthwhile. If Karma doesn't reach expected sales/critical mass, there won't be wasted $$. If it does, then there'd be a market ready and you'd be sure to make back you capital expenses & make some money. I'm sure it's not as if they're sitting in a warehouse someplace simply not being offered for sale.

-Zeke
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#183744 - 09/10/2003 06:51 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: Ezekiel]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
That is pretty much the logic, last I heard. It is extremely expensive to make accessories like this, and they are probably waiting to see if it is worth the investment.

For what its worth, my old minidisc player wired remote fits in the socket. Pity there is no software listening for control signals at the moment...
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#183745 - 09/10/2003 16:56 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: pgrzelak]
mrfixit
enthusiast

Registered: 14/06/2002
Posts: 337
My old sharp minidisc 702 has a wired remote with a backlit screen and full functions, but the ones even a couple model numbers up have a remote but no screen a limited functions... go figure. It is funny too I put my remote wich has the screen on a model that didn't and the buttons worked but the screen did not, so I guess it was cheaper for them to make it without the driver for the remote screen.
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#183746 - 09/10/2003 18:09 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Another question is there a way to make it so the player doesn't turn on everytime I put it in the dock ?

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#183747 - 09/10/2003 21:03 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Another question is there a way to make it so the player doesn't turn on everytime I put it in the dock ?
It's gotta sort of "boot" the dock... for instance, to activate the USB and ethernet ports.

I think that the intended behavior is... If it was in sleep mode when you put it in the dock, it's supposed to boot up then go back into sleep mode. Much the same way the empeg does. I could be wrong about that. Anyway, I didn't look back over the thread but make sure you've got the current firmware and see if that fixes it.
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#183748 - 09/10/2003 21:05 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Here's my picture.



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Edited by msaeger (09/10/2003 21:08)
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#183749 - 09/10/2003 21:05 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Never mind. Mine doesn't do that, it always turns on when I put it in the dock. So maybe that behavior is intentional. Perhaps so that it can do a profiled synch.
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#183750 - 09/10/2003 21:07 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I got the latest player firmware. I also downloaded the new version of RMML. How do I get the new RMML on the player ?
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#183751 - 09/10/2003 21:27 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
How do I get the new RMML on the player ?
You don't. The newest version of RMML is on the player already if you have applied the latest firmware. (It is the newest, as of the date the player firmware was made.)

If there's a newer one somewhere that you can download (didn't know that there was?), then run it on your PC's hard disk instead of directly off the player.
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#183752 - 09/10/2003 21:42 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
The version on my player is 1.0 version 1.01 is on the rio website.
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#183753 - 10/10/2003 06:03 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: tfabris]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Rob decided to release RMML on a separate release cycle from the firmware (when firmwares come up, they will have the latest RMML that was released at the point, but there might be a newer on the site). There is a post of riovolution.com that has the link to rioaudio.com where you can get the latest RMML (1.02 official release) -- I can't remember exactly where it is on there. If you want ultra unsupported bleeding edge, you can get RMML from my site @ www.inzyme.com/rio .

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#183754 - 13/10/2003 00:53 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Bug or feature.

When in shuffle mode I can not go back tracks only forward.
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#183755 - 13/10/2003 03:57 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Do you mean skipping tracks or scanning through? Scanning through forward and back is a known issue. Skipping should still work.
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#183756 - 13/10/2003 05:08 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: pgrzelak]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Skipping back in shuffle. I tried it again just now and it worked maybe it just needed to be rebooted ?
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#183757 - 13/10/2003 10:55 Re: I got mine too :) [Re: msaeger]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Hmmm... Were you able to reproduce the problem?
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