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#186856 - 26/10/2003 22:56 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
image
old hand

Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
oic what you're saying. playlist in a playlist.

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#186857 - 27/10/2003 01:14 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
crazymelki
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Registered: 16/02/2001
Posts: 373
Loc: Switzerland
yeeehhh.. thats true.....
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#186858 - 04/11/2003 14:38 Re: jEmplode 47 and columns order bug [Re: mschrag]
elperepat
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Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 211
Loc: Qc, Canada
Hi!

I just tried the new v47 and i really appreciate the "sync and forget" function. Really great to be able to continue to retag during sync'ing.

Now, to my bug: I added the track # column and placed it second, right after title column using move up/down and it worked. But when I entered the colums settings again, it reverted the columns to their default position, where ever I placed them before.

And just for curiosity, do you plan/work on the "build database in PC" feature? This would be a such good improvement over the original emplode!!

Thanks
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#186859 - 04/11/2003 14:41 Re: jEmplode 47 and columns order bug [Re: elperepat]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I'll look into that bug ...

As far as database rebuilding, it's on the list of things to work ... No real commitment of when I'll do it at this point, though, but it /is/ on the list.

ms

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#186860 - 04/11/2003 15:07 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: mschrag]
elperepat
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Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 211
Loc: Qc, Canada
Thanks for your quick answer

Here's an other one:

I just can't seem to be able to "Set playlist Order..." anymore. The form containing options never appears.

Thanks!

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#186861 - 04/11/2003 15:12 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: elperepat]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I don't think jEmplode ever had a dialog like Emplode does ... I think Set Playlist Order takes the current sort order of the playlist view and commits that as the natural order of the playlist. I don't use that option, so I'm not sure it is still working, but if you show the "Position" column, you should see the values change when you Set Playlist Order.

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#186862 - 04/11/2003 19:03 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: mschrag]
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Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
oh, what i've noticed is that playlists arent being grouped together when there are also tracks in the root playlist (or any playlist for that matter). its just in alphabetical order. bug or feature? =) it probably did this before, just never combined nested playlists and tracks in a playlist til now.

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#186863 - 04/11/2003 21:07 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: image]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
so you're saying when you have tunes and playlist in a single playlist they they are alphabetized together vs alpha playlists folled by alpha tunes? That's by design, I guess ... More that I never really thought about it, so it's accidentally on purpose

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#186864 - 05/11/2003 15:14 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: mschrag]
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old hand

Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
yeah, thats what i'm saying. dont have my empeg right now to see if thats the same behaviour on emplode. just bugged me a bit since its basically universal in operating systems to group folders and files seperately.

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#186865 - 05/11/2003 17:54 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: image]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
emplode does the same thing and it kills me! But they are "playlists" not folders!
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#186866 - 06/11/2003 03:24 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
better start naming all my playlists like _<playlist_name>_. but i dont want any passenger of mine to think i'm somewhat l33t with all the additional special characters.

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#186867 - 06/11/2003 06:26 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: image]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I tried (Playlist Name) for all of mine in emplode but then emplode got "smart" and sorted alphabetically by first letter (skipping any symbols) rather than by first character.

I'm with you on this one, I'd like playlists to stay up top.
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#186868 - 06/11/2003 06:59 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
emplode 2.0-final has a nifty menu option in the Tools menu that "does the right thing". Playlists are sorted at the top alphabetically, and tracks are sorted at the bottom by track number. It's recursive.
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#186869 - 06/11/2003 09:58 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: Roger]
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old hand

Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
wow. tools -> ordering in emplode "fixed" the play order perfectly. it changes all playlists below it, and then starts working on the tracks. i'm not sure what it does to the tracks though, since i thought that the ordering is stored in the playlists. i dont suggest paul g do this on his root playlist as it will do whatever it does to every track contained on his empeg.

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#186870 - 06/11/2003 11:22 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: Roger]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Roger, very nice! You guys are always sneaking stuff in there eh?
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#186871 - 06/11/2003 14:12 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: image]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
In reply to:

its basically universal in operating systems to group folders and files seperately


Really? Not in any locale I've ever used! Directories and files sort alphabetically in C and UK locales on the platforms I have ready access to (Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX). I guess that if you really want to sort by type, there is a "type" tag provided that you could use after sorting on title.

I'd hate to see Mike break the current (working, intuitive) behaviour of sorting on the requested column - I have quite a few artist playlists that are sorted chronologically, but containing a mix of albums and loose tunes (the latter mainly from compilations or bonus tracks). It would be counterintuitive to add an implicit "sort-by-type" (and hard to undo if there were no way to disable it).
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#186872 - 06/11/2003 20:45 Re: jEmplode 47 and "Set playlist order..." bug [Re: tms13]
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Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
crap, you're right in unix-centric oses. i've just been spoiled by windows and aliasing ls to group in linux.

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#186873 - 09/11/2003 09:21 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: mschrag]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Okay keen as ever to get bleeding edge but i have tryed replacing the current jemplode jar with the jar on the site and whenever i try starting it it just spits the dummy and won't start.

Running panther on a 12inch g4 powerbook.
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#186874 - 09/11/2003 10:02 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: thinfourth2]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
if you run java -jar jemplode.jar from the commandline, do you get any output on the console?

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#186875 - 09/11/2003 11:24 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: thinfourth2]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
10.3 on a 15inch and replacing the jar worked on mine.

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#186876 - 09/11/2003 12:24 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: mschrag]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
i have no idea what you mean

but typed that into terminal

and i got this

[Paulallison:~] paulalli% java -jar jemplode.jar
HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled.
Exception in thread "main" java.util.zip.ZipException: No such file or directory
at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method)
at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:112)
at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:117)
at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:55)
[Paulallison:~] paulalli%


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#186877 - 09/11/2003 12:51 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: mschrag]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
47 is just sooooo sluggish and slow for me... it's painful. I'm guessing my "ATi" fix is what did it..
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#186878 - 09/11/2003 13:09 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: Daria]
LittleBlueThing
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Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 612
Loc: Reading, UK
XP on dual-headed 19" - and it works for me too
(Damn I wish 2.6.0-test9/Xfree did dual-head )
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#186879 - 09/11/2003 20:01 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: thinfourth2]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
can you make sure you're in the same directory as jemplode.jar and run that again? that HotSpot not at correct virtual address thing is pretty suspicious sounding ... never seen that before ...

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#186880 - 09/11/2003 20:01 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I believe that .... I wish I had more for you on that one, but when you're talking driver incompatibility, there's not much that can be done I don't know why it would be any slower than previous releases, though. Nothing really changes very much wrt UI .....

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#186881 - 10/11/2003 01:58 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: mschrag]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Will do just need to use my new book

unix for OS X

needed an excuse anyway
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#186882 - 10/11/2003 03:06 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: thinfourth2]
V99
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 192
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
The hotspot thing is a bug in Panther.. see this.

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#186883 - 11/11/2003 11:47 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: mschrag]
sirmanson
journeyman

Registered: 06/03/2002
Posts: 70
Loc: Tucson, AZ USA
I'm having problems on both of my machines (XP and 2000)with the new jemplode (47) ... jemplode finds my empeg (ethernet) and connects successfully. It downloads the database and gets stuck on "Updating Interface". Does anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?
Thanks,
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#186884 - 11/11/2003 12:19 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: crazymelki]
pim
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Registered: 14/11/2000
Posts: 474
Loc: The Hague, the Netherlands
..I found a small bug with the umlauts....


You're running v3.00 alpha, right?

This is UTF-8 that's being displayed as iso8859-1.

When migrating to v3, your player database is being converted
from iso8859-1 to UTF-8. That alone could cause touble for
third party apps.

But things can even get more confusing. I don't think
the tag files that are used to reconstruct the player database
are converted themselves, leaving them iso8859-1 encoded.
But newly uploaded tag files may be UTF-8 encoded, so I'm
not sure how emplode and jemplode cope with this.

Pim

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#186885 - 11/11/2003 12:26 Re: jEmplode 47 [Re: pim]
crazymelki
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Registered: 16/02/2001
Posts: 373
Loc: Switzerland
yeee I am using 3.00 alpha....

bye
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