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#19332 - 03/10/2000 00:08 How bad can I trash my empeg player..
MouseJstr new poster Registered: 02/10/2000 Posts: 3	I am experimenting with the empeg player but I am uncomfortable with making large changes to the OS since I am unsure what I can recover from. If I render the machine unbootable by screwing up various configuration files, can I just use the upgrade utility to re-install a fresh image or am I just hosed?
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#19333 - 03/10/2000 01:26 Re: How bad can I trash my empeg player.. [Re: MouseJstr]
altman carpal tunnel Registered: 19/05/1999 Posts: 3457 Loc: Palo Alto, CA	You will have problems totally trashing it. The memory which holds the "re-flasher" code is hardware write protected - you can't trash this without opening up the player physically and shorting things. This means that in the worst case, applying an upgrade file will cure your player whatever state it's in. This doesn't mean you can't trash your disk and all the music, though... you can't toast the flash to a point of no return though. Hugo
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#19334 - 03/10/2000 11:38 Re: How bad can I trash my empeg player.. [Re: altman]
mcomb pooh-bah Registered: 31/08/1999 Posts: 1649 Loc: San Carlos, CA	FYI, I did manage to hose the developer image to the point where I could not reload the developer image (mangled init). I had to reload with consumer and then reload developer on top of that. -Mike _________________________ EmpMenuX - ext3 filesystem - Empeg iTunes integration
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#19335 - 04/10/2000 09:43 Re: How bad can I trash my empeg player.. [Re: mcomb]
altman carpal tunnel Registered: 19/05/1999 Posts: 3457 Loc: Palo Alto, CA	That shouldn't be possible; the upgrade file reloads all the flash, reboots into the newly-loaded image, then overwrites the entire hda5 partition (boot partition) with a compressed disk image. I'd love to know how this went wrong - both consumer & developer do identical things during upgrades. Hugo
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#19336 - 04/10/2000 13:57 Re: How bad can I trash my empeg player.. [Re: altman]
dionysus veteran Registered: 16/06/1999 Posts: 1222 Loc: San Francisco, CA	In reply to: I'd love to know how this went wrong - both consumer & developer do identical things during upgrades. I think the instructions for reflashing need to be a little clearer.. Currently, empeg allows you to upgrade to consumer/developer versions without turning off the power first; in my experience, if you don't restart the player (pull the power, plug it in when the software asks you to), then the flash program acts as if it's working, but the unit's configuration will not be changed... -mark ps - sigh - another day and I'm going to be here past 5pm because empeg wants to do a disk check MK2: 36gb Tivo: 90gb CPU: 120gb ...I think drive manufacturers love me! _________________________ http://mvgals.net - clublife, revisited.
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#19337 - 04/10/2000 18:18 Re: How bad can I trash my empeg player.. [Re: altman]
mcomb pooh-bah Registered: 31/08/1999 Posts: 1649 Loc: San Carlos, CA	Hmmm, I did this the first or second day I had my empeg so I suppose it is possible that it was just user error on the reload. What happened was that I replaced init with a script that would start up networking after the player software was quit. I screwed something up and couldn't get a serial prompt anymore, but the player still worked. I tried to reload the developer image a few times with no luck. Everything worked fine after loading consumer and then reloading developer. -Mike _________________________ EmpMenuX - ext3 filesystem - Empeg iTunes integration
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