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#202059 - 02/02/2004 17:51 player v3a5 vs. hijaack
beamer
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 34
Hi guys.

How do i install the V3a5 software and hijaack ? - can i use the "normal" pre-compiled hijaack thingy for the V2 software or what? - if not, how do i do it (easyly)
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#202060 - 02/02/2004 17:56 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: beamer]
tfabris
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The same Hijack works equally well for the 2.0 final software or for the 3.0 alpha software. As long as it's a fairly recent version.

Remember that the 3.0 alpha software has problems with its database rebuilds, has bugs, and is not recommended for daily use yet. It's called "Alpha" for a reason. Most folks should stick with 2.0 until 3.0 is more stable.
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#202061 - 02/02/2004 17:57 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: beamer]
mlord
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The same "normal" Hijack is appropriate for both v2 and v3 player software.

And if you have not yet discovered "upgrader", then do a quick BBS search for it. It can save you a ton of time switching between various v2/v3 versions of player software, without wiping out Hijack each time.

-ml

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#202062 - 02/02/2004 18:21 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
beamer
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 34
Thanks guys, ... found the upgeader too, any notes on how to use that?
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#202063 - 02/02/2004 18:23 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: beamer]
mlord
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./upgrader target_empeg_ip_address car2-developer-blahblah.upgrade

(or upgrader.exe for mswin).

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#202064 - 02/02/2004 18:32 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
beamer
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Cool, now i just can't fint the windows verison of upgrader (must be blind)
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#202065 - 02/02/2004 18:52 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: beamer]
mlord
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I've just now made it somewhat easier.

The Hijack site (link at top of BBS screens) has a compressed tar file with Linux, Windows, and (older version) MacOSX versions of upgrader within.

-ml

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#202066 - 02/02/2004 18:56 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
beamer
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Mark, you're (as usual) the greatest!
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#202067 - 02/02/2004 19:05 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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I didn't think there was any reason to rebuild the MacOS upgrader; Is there? The images you can spit out won't be mountable on a Mac.

I can build it if you want a newer one.

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#202068 - 02/02/2004 20:57 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: Daria]
mlord
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Yeah, no need for a new OSX version. For that matter, you may be the only OSX user anyways!

Cheers

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#202069 - 02/02/2004 21:35 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
mcomb
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you may be the only OSX user anyways

He isn't I have used the OS X version a few times. Comes in quite handy.
-Mike
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#202070 - 02/02/2004 21:59 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mcomb]
Daria
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Well, my wife would use it if her solution wasn't "here, upgrade my player"... but there probably aren't more than a dozen or so, I'm guessing.

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#202071 - 03/02/2004 08:13 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
mmm... I see to be having some problems. I'm using a windows machine with cygwin and when I try and run the upgrader I found on your website I get some errors. I've attached a screenshot.


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200705-error.jpg (262 downloads)


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#202072 - 03/02/2004 08:19 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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Ahh.. The package does not include the ncftpput and gunzip binaries, which as you can read (from the top of the output you attached) are also needed.

I had those here once, but have lost them. I suspect the person who originally sent them still has them though.. time for a BBS search.

Cheers

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#202073 - 03/02/2004 08:24 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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Ahh.. found them..

The gunzip.exe and ncftpput.exe binaries are now included in the upgrader.tgz package from the Hiack site. Refetch it.

-ml

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#202074 - 03/02/2004 08:33 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
mmm... Still got the same error... I decompressed the files into my home directory in cygwin... any ideas why it wouldn't be able to see it?

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#202075 - 03/02/2004 08:58 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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No idea. I don't use Windows. But you should probably put all three .exe files into the same directory, then open a command window, CD to that directory, and run the command from there.

Or switch to Linux.

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#202076 - 03/02/2004 09:06 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
Roger
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My suggestion: If this is a full-blown Cygwin install. Just run the setup.exe program again and add the 'gzip' and 'ncftp' packages to your install. They'll be installed in your PATH correctly.

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#202077 - 03/02/2004 09:08 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: Roger]
Roger
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...as seen here (I just tried it).


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200721-cygwin-which.png (174 downloads)

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#202078 - 03/02/2004 09:12 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: Roger]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
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How do i add 'gzip' and 'ncftp' packages to the install? I don't see an option for that when I run setup.exe...

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#202079 - 03/02/2004 09:17 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
Roger
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When you get to the "Select Packages" screen, click on the "View" button until it says "full".



Then scroll down the list until "gzip" is visible in the "Package" column, and click on the swirly arrow thing in the "New" column once. The version number of gzip should appear. Do the same for "ncftp".

Then click "Next" until it's done.

(Note that mine says "Keep" where the version number would appear, because I've already got gzip installed).


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200727-cygwin-setup.png (172 downloads)

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#202080 - 03/02/2004 09:19 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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Okay, I just tried this (for the first time ever) in VMware.
(And just how ironic is that!)

To get upgrader to work, with ncftpput.exe and gunzip.exe in the working directory, I first had to do this: export PATH=".:$PATH"

Worked like a charm first try after that. This is from within the cygwin bash shell, not a dos prompt.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (03/02/2004 09:22)

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#202081 - 03/02/2004 09:22 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: Roger]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
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I don't have ncftp in my list...

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#202082 - 03/02/2004 09:23 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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Just use the files I provided -- see my latest post above, and do this command first within the Cygwin window:
export PATH=".:$PATH"

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#202083 - 03/02/2004 09:23 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
Roger
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I don't have ncftp in my list...

Which mirror are you connecting to? If I connect to ftp.mirror.ac.uk, I get ncftp in my list.
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#202084 - 03/02/2004 09:29 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
mmmkay... Well... It claims it worked, however it still says I've got Alpha 3... Was I doing something wrong?

This is what I typed at the commandline

upgrader-cygwin.exe 10.0.3.130 car2-developer-v3.0-alpha5.upgrade

(Note: My username and password are both blank because there isn't one)

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#202085 - 03/02/2004 09:31 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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Any error messages in the output?

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#202086 - 03/02/2004 09:35 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
nope. just said "Upgrade complete, rebooting... ALTHOUGH... I just noticed for KERNEL it said:

/proc/empeg_kernel, size=475832 bytes
--> SKIPPED

I also got a skipped for "DRIVE"...


I take it that might be my problem?

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#202087 - 03/02/2004 09:36 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: thedon]
mlord
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Nope, those are normal.

Did the player reboot afterwards? If not, reboot it!

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#202088 - 03/02/2004 09:37 Re: player v3a5 vs. hijaack [Re: mlord]
thedon
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 65
yep, it rebooted... Still saying Alpha 3 though...

*Sigh*

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