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#202701 - 08/02/2004 22:56 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: hybrid8]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Thanks for the great writeup. That was the explanation I was looking for. I suspected that one reason was it would confuse most Windows users Particularly from you

Not that I'm saying it isn't true. I appropriated a Sony GDM-FW900 monitor for my dad's office about 3 years ago. It was a lovely $2000, 24-in widescreen, flat-screened monitor. A real behemoth but beautiful. It went to where it was needed most - at his desktop publishing station. Too bad the person working at it uses it at 1024x768. Some people don't deserve the equipment they get

And don't get me started on the one user in the office who got a 21" monitor after months of whining. She has hers set to 800x600. The icons are like as big as my fist
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#202702 - 08/02/2004 23:31 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: hybrid8]
Neutrino
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Registered: 23/01/2002
Posts: 506
Loc: The Great Pacific NorthWest
Bruno;

One item that many of us LCD RPTV owners would like to see is the ability to choose resolutions that are not multiples of 8. Nirvana for us is the ability to achieve 1:1 pixel mapping while maintaining the perfect size, no under or overscan. This is not possible while having to chose resolutions that are a multiple of 8. I have managed to achieve near 1:1 pixel mapping. It is perfect in the vertical but is off in the horizontal. The picture is really nice but , of course we want perfection!

I just did a DOH! with the purchase of a Dell. It was a great deal, 2.8ghz, 256mg, 80gig, etc etc for 447. I got it home and opened it up to install my ATI9600pro only to find it had no AGP slot! whoops! I found an ATI 9200SE PCI board and used that instead. Running Cat 4.1 it came up and worked fine. I am currently using 1280 X 720p through DVI. Thanks ATI.

P.S. With the currently available drivers this does require Powerstrip.
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#202703 - 09/02/2004 02:44 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: hybrid8]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Samsung released a 21" 1600x1200 screen months ago

I'm still running my 19" CRT monitor at 1600x1200. I'm wary of stepping up to a 21" LCD, because it doesn't seem worth it unless I get more pixels than on my 19" CRT. Or should I just do it anyway?

One other problem I've got with moving to LCD is that only one of the outputs on my Radeon 9800 Pro is DVI, and I'd like to use two monitors. Presumably I could just run the second LCD on the analog output?
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#202704 - 09/02/2004 09:51 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: burdell1]
Chimaera
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Registered: 10/09/2002
Posts: 285
Loc: DFW Area, Texas, US
There is an offer on at the moment for the Dell 20.1" monitor on their Small Buisness site it appears to do 1600x1200 and 16ms average refresh (although I cannot see the 16ms bit mentioned anywhere on the Dell site).

$750 looks like a good deal, if only I hadn't just bought that D100
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#202705 - 09/02/2004 10:01 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: Chimaera]
lockuplever
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Registered: 30/01/2002
Posts: 264
Loc: Tucson, AZ
Any idea who makes that monitor?
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#202706 - 09/02/2004 10:05 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: lockuplever]
Chimaera
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Registered: 10/09/2002
Posts: 285
Loc: DFW Area, Texas, US
No, but the link I got to it claims the panel to actually be a LG LM201U04 if that is of any help.
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#202707 - 09/02/2004 11:05 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: jbauer]
blitz
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Registered: 20/11/2001
Posts: 455
Loc: Texas
I also have the 213T. Very nice.

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#202708 - 09/02/2004 11:07 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: Chimaera]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
We have a lab full of those 20" Dell flat panels. They're beautiful, and well worth $750, if you can, in fact, get them that cheap.

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#202709 - 09/02/2004 11:16 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: hybrid8]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
Samsung released a 21" 1600x1200 screen months ago. The 213T I believe it's called

I know, that's why I said 19" or 20".
I actually found out about this monitor on this board, when msaeger bought two of them.
While I like that 213T monitor a lot too, I also really want a screen with a refresh rate smaller than 25ms. I sure hope their next generation of TFT's will be able to do that.
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#202710 - 09/02/2004 11:57 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: Chimaera]
burdell1
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 931
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
it is nice, but way out of my price range

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#202711 - 09/02/2004 17:41 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: burdell1]
burdell1
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 931
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
maybe there will be rebates for this one or the 19"...do they sell the bases by themselves? those are really nice....as long as they don't say dell on them....wouldn't want to have a samsung monitor and a dell labeled base.

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#202712 - 10/02/2004 23:15 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: burdell1]
thrasher
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Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 362
I bought the viewsonic 19' at best buy last week it was 799 but has a 100 dollar rebate right now.model vx900 and the picture is extremly clear.If I would have read this post first I probably would have bought somthing else.
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#202713 - 10/02/2004 23:45 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: Roger]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Both LCDs should look fine on the RADEON 9800's outputs. You could always buy our FireGL X2 for Dual DVI. I'm trying to push marketing managers all the time into releasing dual digital cards, but it's an uphill battle for anything but workstation (FireGL) releases - and of course Apple OEM cards.

There's no comparison, I would trade practically any 20" CRT and definitely any and all 19", for a 21" LCD. See if you can get the opportunity to use one for few minutes at a store. Not a 17" and not an 18", but a 20 or 21" model like the Samsung. The thin bezel and overwhelming presence of the visible display...

And I get to use Apple's 23" 1920x1200 displays a lot too, so tihs speaks volumes for the Samsung. Of course I've also used the IDTech 9MP display (IBM T221) at 3840x2400. Wow. The pixels are just a wee bit too small for text usage unless you blow the fonts WAY up. The warning it comes with doesn't say you may strain or hurt your vision. It says you will DEFINITELY damage your vision if you use it for text at full resolution.

Bruno
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#202714 - 11/02/2004 01:19 Re: LCD Monitors? [Re: hybrid8]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
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and of course Apple OEM cards.

I know quite a few people doing ROM flashes to go from PC to Mac cards, any idea how well this works going the other direction?

Doesn't matter to me too much anymore, since the Wintendo has no huge use of dual displays any more. Now, the DVI on my second LCD is almost always plugged into the Powerbook, and the VGA on my new server.

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