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#213332 - 15/04/2004 14:25 Feature requests for EmpegFace?
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
When I get time to work on the next version, what would folks like to see? I'm only looking for simple features here... Things that would be quick and easy to add. Right now, on my list of possible things to do I have:

- Support password protected empegs based on Mark's new authentication scheme, using the information he provided in this thread.

- Implement a broadcast packet to discover the empeg on the network instead of you needing to enter its address yourself.

- Add a pulsing Standby light, by grabing /proc/empeg_power.

- Add a panel for special http commands, perhaps as a submenu of the rightclick menu, perhaps configurable. Things that you can't do easily with the control panel buttons. Such as: Set RO/Set RW, reboot, etc. Anyone have any ideas of stuff that they'd like to see on this panel?

- Add a Taxi feature. Right now I taxi files between work and home with a complex batchfile. I could do this inside of EmpegFace instead. I've got some ideas about how it might work...

Anyway, aside from the taxi feature, which I'm willing to put some time into because I use one every day already, I'd ideally want changes to be small and easy to drop in. Anyone got suggestions?

I seem to recall asking this question once before, and I implemented a few things from that thread. Anyone got a link to it so I can revisit the past requests?
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#213333 - 16/04/2004 08:07 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
tms13
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Better Linux support, please.
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#213334 - 16/04/2004 08:12 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tms13]
JBjorgen
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good luck...it's written in VB...have you tried it in wine?
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#213335 - 16/04/2004 10:25 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: JBjorgen]
tfabris
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I seem to recall that others have said it works fine in Wine.

I know, it sucks to have to use an emulator.

Oh, wait, Wine Is Not an Emulator. Hm. Then what is it? You just gotta love products like Wine and Lame that deny their own existence in their very names.
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#213336 - 16/04/2004 10:37 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
tman
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WINE isn't an emulator. It's a compatibility layer which converts the Win32 API to native Unix & X calls.
The reason for the name LAME is that originally it was a patch to the ISO reference encoder but now it's totally standalone and is an encoder...

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#213337 - 16/04/2004 11:00 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tman]
tfabris
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I'm aware of the reasons for the names, I just think it's funny.
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#213338 - 16/04/2004 14:37 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
tms13
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Wine isn't what I had in mind when I said "better", but I know you were just retaliating in kind.

I must have a play with Wine when it's less alpha and more beta (not that I particularly like the Windows apps I've been subjected to - I guess it takes a certain way of thinking).
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#213339 - 16/04/2004 20:53 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
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I wanted to request the ability to have a "Double Sized" empegface w. "Regular Sized" remote, but that's more of a skin request than a feature request.
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#213340 - 17/04/2004 03:32 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Major_Sarcasm
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Registered: 28/08/2003
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I wanted to request the ability to have a "Double Sized" empegface w. "Regular Sized" remote, but that's more of a skin request than a feature request.


Seconded, that would certainly be something I'd like to see too.

Other than some of the features you have listed above Tony, I can't think of anything else that would be useful - it already does everything I personally need!
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#213341 - 17/04/2004 05:49 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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And thanks again for adding a pulldown menu for the skins.
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#213342 - 17/04/2004 11:01 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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I'm not sure if this is a skin type request or not.. but is it possible to have the empeg display with no empeg surrounding it? That way, I could use the remote to control it (or right click the display) and the display would take up very little space.
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#213343 - 18/04/2004 03:30 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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I wanted to request the ability to have a "Double Sized" empegface w. "Regular Sized" remote, but that's more of a skin request than a feature request.
Simply creating a folder and copying the appropriate files from the included skins would be enough to do that. They're loose files, simply looking at them will give you enough information for you to figure this one out on your own.
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#213344 - 18/04/2004 03:32 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I'm not sure if this is a skin type request or not.. but is it possible to have the empeg display with no empeg surrounding it? That way, I could use the remote to control it (or right click the display) and the display would take up very little space.
Yes, this would be a very simple skin to make. Again, you can copy the appropriate files from an existing skin to make the remote, and then take two seconds to create a couple of bitmaps for the face itself at size 128x32. The ini file should place the screen at 0,0 and you're all set.

Creating a skin is not hard at all and complete instructions are included with EmpegFace.
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#213345 - 18/04/2004 09:09 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
Major_Sarcasm
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Simply creating a folder and copying the appropriate files from the included skins would be enough to do that. They're loose files, simply looking at them will give you enough information for you to figure this one out on your own.


/me slaps forehead

Much better, thanks Tony
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#213346 - 19/04/2004 15:09 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
Jerz
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A pocket pc edition?

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#213347 - 04/05/2004 11:57 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
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Would it be possible to have the current song title/artist in the caption that comes up when you hover over the Icon on the systray?

I usually have the visuals on display so if I wanted to see the song info I have to maximize then hold down the down button.

Just thought it would be convenient.

thanks
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#213348 - 04/05/2004 12:59 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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That's a good suggestion, and do-able with only a little bit of work.

Although I'm not sure the systray icon is the best place for it. I'm considering adding a "specials" panel which would include extra commands you can issue to the player, and that would probably be the correct place for it.
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#213349 - 04/05/2004 13:18 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
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Sweet!
Can't wait.

Thanks Tony.
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#213350 - 17/05/2004 05:12 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
Dava
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Loc: Bucks UK
I would like to see support for multiple units, I would like to switch between my unit at home and the one in the car easily.

I too would also like a Pocket PC version. The PPC embedded VB environment is free from Microsoft and my guess is that it shouldn't take a lot of converting. I was planning to have a go at this type of app for the PPC as soon as I get my iPAQ which is hopefully later this week. But as yours is nearly perfect and a lot more flexible than I would have written (with skins etc),it seems silly.

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#213351 - 17/05/2004 06:37 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: Dava]
skibum
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Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 248
Loc: Swindon, UK
I do that currently by installing empegface into 2 different directories. Works great for me and wouldn't want to lose that, as I can run both up at once with difference faces (which the empegs actually have as well).
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#213352 - 17/05/2004 07:13 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: skibum]
Dava
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Good Point... Well Made.. This will be my chosen solution too. Thanks.
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#213353 - 17/05/2004 10:25 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: Dava]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I would like to see support for multiple units
Right, like Skibum said, just make two different folders and then you'll have two different programs with independent configurations.

I was planning to have a go at this type of app for the PPC as soon as I get my iPAQ
I don't have any plans to port it to any other environment, let alone pocketPC, so you should probably have a look at doing it yourself when you get the iPaq in.

my guess is that it shouldn't take a lot of converting
You'd be surprised. It's quite likely that you'd spend less time writing it from scratch than I would trying to shoehorn my convoluted design into PPC.
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#213354 - 18/05/2004 01:55 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
how about releasing the source, so people such as him wouldnt have to re-invent the wheel, so to speak?

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#213355 - 18/05/2004 06:36 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: RobotCaleb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
There's nothing unique or even special in those sources. It just downloads the URL of the Hijack screen capture over and over again in a fast loop. You don't need my sources to duplicate that.
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#213356 - 18/05/2004 07:20 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Loc: London, UK
You don't need my sources to duplicate that.

He's not kidding: 20-25 minutes (including posting it to my website) over lunch results in this:



And the interesting bit?

private void MainForm_Tick(object sender, System.EventArgs e)
{
DateTime now = DateTime.Now;
timeLabel.Text = now.ToLongTimeString();

WebRequest req = WebRequest.Create(@"http://crowley/proc/empeg_screen.png");
WebResponse rsp = req.GetResponse();

Stream stream = rsp.GetResponseStream();
Image img = Image.FromStream(stream);
picture.Image = img;

rsp.Close();
}


Attachments
215413-ShowScreen.png (270 downloads)

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#213357 - 02/10/2004 00:20 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Hey Tony, I can't connect to my player via empegface when I force the player into DC mode but I'm still able to connect to the player via emplode (the IP and Subnet seems to be working).

Any ideas? I wanted to get some screen grabs that only appear In-Car.
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#213358 - 02/10/2004 00:34 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tman
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#213359 - 02/10/2004 01:23 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tman]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
Wow, you beat the FAQmaster to FAQing someone!

The world *is* ending.

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#213360 - 02/10/2004 01:24 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: Daria]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
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Loc: Washington, DC metro
tfabris must be rebooting right now!

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#213361 - 02/10/2004 01:34 Re: Feature requests for EmpegFace? [Re: tman]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
hehe, thanks guys.

Is this what I'm looking for? dc_servers=1
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