#228513 - 26/07/2004 22:24
Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
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Loc: Richmond, VA
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I finally got fed up with my little $30 Target-bought-milkshake-maker and ordered one of those commercial-grade milkshake makers to arrive in a few days. To prepare for this, in addition to preparing for Doom 3, I require the world's best chocolate sauce/syrup/powder/whatever for making the ultimate chocolate milkshake. Traditionally I've just used Hershey's chocolate sauce, but I would not be surprised if there was a chocolatey world of goodness out there that I have just not been exposed to yet ....
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#228514 - 26/07/2004 23:04
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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No, absolutely not. Proper chocolate milk shakes must be made with good plain vanilla ice cream and Hershey's chocolate syrup. Absolutely nothing else will do, it must be Hershey's and no other brand. Anyone who says otherwise is itching for a fight.
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#228515 - 26/07/2004 23:09
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
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Tony,
I'd have to interject that one optional ingredient to your perfect shake would be malt, for those who enjoy a nice chocolate malted.
-Zeke
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#228517 - 27/07/2004 00:58
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
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Eww, I really dislike Hershey's chocolate syrup in milkshakes. I just don't like the flavor. Personally, I use Carnation Chocolate Malted Milk mix. It's a powder that's kind of hard to find, but I say try it and compare to what the Hershey people are saying 
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#228518 - 27/07/2004 01:00
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: Daria]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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Very cold ice cream is a must! Impossible to dish out is just about right. You see, it must be able to freeze up some of the milk before the mixer is started.
In my case the mixer consists of a spoon, a cold glass, and a kitchen towel wrapped around the glass. Towel serves dual use, insulator and mess control.
edit: You did buy a NON frost free freezer to keep the ice cream in. Todays frost free freezers make getting the ice cream cold enough, hit or miss.
Edited by gbeer (27/07/2004 01:04)
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#228519 - 27/07/2004 02:38
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: Ezekiel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Please explain to me the "Malt" thing?
I remember once as a kid going to a restaurant in a bowling alley and my friend ordered a chocolate malt and I ordered a chocolate milkshake and I couldn't tell the difference between the two. What's the deal?
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#228520 - 27/07/2004 03:00
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: Ezekiel]
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addict
Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
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hmmmmm yea wtf is a chocolate malt?
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#228522 - 27/07/2004 06:35
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 248
Loc: Swindon, UK
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Hershey's is to chocolate, what Budwieser is to beer; The worst on the planet. I'd try and import something from Belgium or Switzerland if possible.
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#228523 - 27/07/2004 10:43
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: canuckInOR]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
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That's why it's optional! Besides you are entirely incorrect, malt is manna.  -Zeke
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#228524 - 27/07/2004 10:47
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
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Tony,
You would have noticed if they'd put in malt. It's a mix that you get at most any grocery store. Just add a tablespoon or two to your milkshake and you have a malted milkshake. It's the stuff that makes Whoppers taste like, well, Whoppers (aside from the chocolate that is).
-Zeke
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#228525 - 27/07/2004 11:02
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: Ezekiel]
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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<Homer voice>Mmmmm... Malt powder...</Homer voice>
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#228526 - 27/07/2004 11:06
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: skibum]
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
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what Budwieser is to beer; The worst on the planet.
Not a fan of Bud myself, but there is far worse than that. Coors Light and Natural Ice immediately spring to mind.
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#228527 - 27/07/2004 11:11
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: mschrag]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
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I usually just use vanilla ice cream and Hershey's chocolate syrup, but for a change (admittedly NOT chocolate as you specified) replacing the Hershey's syrup with ice java is really good. It's also good in just plain milk as well. Sort of chocolate milk for adults (and tastes a lot like the Starbucks frappachinos you buy in the glass bottles).
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#228529 - 27/07/2004 11:26
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: skibum]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Any particular recommendations? There appear to be 1 million different choices here. I'll give a full review of the Hershey's vs European World Choc-Off Competition after I get some alternatives in.
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#228530 - 27/07/2004 11:47
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?--well, ultimate dish anyways...
[Re: mschrag]
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enthusiast
Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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So it wasn't until I was married that I discovered Stirred Peanut butter Ice Cream. Try this before you discount it:
So start with a good brand of vanilla or French vanilla (something like Tillamook, Umpqua, or <insert your favorite local brand>) and serve up about twice what you would normally dish out.
Add 2 Tablespoons of a good peanut butter (Addams, or self-ground) and stir in with spoon. Continue stirring for approx. 3-5min. Your goal is to get all the air out. Typically, you'll be left with about a third of the original serving size. Drizzling Hershies over this and---ah, SO GOOD!
Yummy. I want some now--unfortunately I'm typing this from the treadmill--grr...yeah, the um, fat content doesn't go away with the stirring so you're still at a double or tripple serving.
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#228531 - 27/07/2004 12:22
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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As long as we can all agree that a chocolate milkshake is made with vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup and not just chocolate ice cream, I'm fine with any debates over chocolate brands.
I don't get it, but a lot of places around here have started making chocolate milkshakes with chocolate ice cream. They taste like ass. If you really press them hard, you can usually get them to make you a real one. But the thing I really don't get is if that's the case, what do they usually do with the chocolate syrup? (The obvious answer is that they use it instead of hot fudge.)
There's also the egg-versus-no-egg debate.
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#228532 - 27/07/2004 12:34
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: mschrag]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Any particular recommendations? There appear to be 1 million different choices here. I'll give a full review of the Hershey's vs European World Choc-Off Competition after I get some alternatives in.
Apparently you can now get Green & Blacks in the US. That's jolly nice as bar chocolate, though they don't seem to offer a "syrup" (perhaps because real chocolate isn't liquid at room temperature). Lindt is good too. I guess you could melt the chocolate in a bain-marie/double-boiler with cream (as if making sachertorte icing/frosting) and then mix that with the ice-cream.
Peter
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#228533 - 27/07/2004 12:42
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: canuckInOR]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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It's where they add some sort of powder crap to an otherwise quite tasty milkshake.
Powder which would have been much better turned into ale or whisky. Or Tigger's breakfast.
Peter
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#228534 - 27/07/2004 12:46
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: wfaulk]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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Not that this is a subject upon which I have any knowledge, being only an espresso making genius, I see that this recipe for Mocha milk shake uses chocolate ice cream and coffee essence* - sounds good. Is that "Camp coffee essence" the ersatz junk that we used to get, made with milk, at my boarding school?
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#228535 - 27/07/2004 12:50
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: wfaulk]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
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Loc: Richmond, VA
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As long as we can all agree that a chocolate milkshake is made with vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup and not just chocolate ice cream
If anyone says otherwise, the terrorists have already won. I always make sure to specify "with vanilla ice cream" just in case.
I'm a no egg man myself, by the way. But mostly because the thought of putting an egg in my milkshake kind of grosses me out. I know, it's irrational. It's like how I'm disgusted by a lot of vegetables, yet I'll happily eat a hotdog, which is pretty much 95% pig anuses.
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#228537 - 27/07/2004 13:09
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Oh, it is!
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#228538 - 27/07/2004 13:17
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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For the record, that "powder crap" is a dried mixture of malted barley, wheat flour, and milk.
Oh, I assumed it was just the malted barley. In which case I agree: wheat flour and milk have no place in ale or whisky. Or Tigger's breakfast.
Peter
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#228540 - 27/07/2004 13:49
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 20/03/2002
Posts: 729
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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For the record, that "powder crap" is a dried mixture of malted barley, wheat flour, and milk. Sounds tasty. 
Horlicks! I just like saying that... er... typing it.
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#228541 - 27/07/2004 14:07
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: Dignan]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Breyers Vanilla really is the best. The ingredients read something like: milk, cream, sugar, vanilla beans. And that's it.
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#228542 - 27/07/2004 16:41
Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake?
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I don't get it, but a lot of places around here have started making chocolate milkshakes with chocolate ice cream. They taste like ass.
Agreed, anything made with chocolate ice cream tastes like ass.
The whole point of adding chocolate to anything (be it chocolate chips, chocolate syrup, chocolate icing, whatever) is to make the chocolate be a layer of flavor that rides atop a base of something else. If you have something chcoloate atop a chocolate base, it's just not right. Note that I include cake in this formula. If you make a cake with chocolate icing, the inside's gotta be the yellow stuff, not the chocolate stuff.
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