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#228573 - 28/07/2004 17:41 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: Ezekiel]
wfaulk
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Eh? Isn't that basically what I said?
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#228574 - 28/07/2004 17:47 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: wfaulk]
mschrag
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I guess except for the "there is not really any product equivalent to what they call a milkshake." part, which might be what he's referring to.

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#228575 - 28/07/2004 18:28 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: mschrag]
wfaulk
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Well, there's certainly not a specified name for it elsewhere. An egg cream is vaguely close, but the Boston milkshake has no soda water, which is really the biggest ingredient in an egg cream.
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#228576 - 28/07/2004 19:16 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: wfaulk]
Ezekiel
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Bitt,
Actually (on closer reading of your post) I realize that I missed your point. Sorry, busy day at the office today.

-Zeke
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#228577 - 29/07/2004 01:01 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: Ezekiel]
gbeer
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-Zeke
You are incorrect: that is chocolate milk, not a milkshake whatsoever.



Another thing that isn't a milkshake, is that concoction they sell at McD's. Even in the hot sun they just don't melt!
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#228578 - 29/07/2004 01:04 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: gbeer]
Ezekiel
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I don't think the McD variety even contains any milk, IIRC.

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#228579 - 29/07/2004 06:22 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: gbeer]
andym
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Another thing that isn't a milkshake, is that concoction they sell at McD's. Even in the hot sun they just don't melt!


Probably because they're made from poly-filler.
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#228580 - 29/07/2004 08:36 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: Ezekiel]
rob
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McDonalds publish their ingredient lists.

Dairy Mix Milk ingredients: sugar, modified milk ingredients, glucose, soy mono and diglycerides, guar gum, dextrose, artificial vanilla flavour, carrageenan, cellulose gum.

Triple Thick Chocolate Shake Syrup: Glucose-fructose, water, dutch processed cocoa, natural (vegetable source) and artificial flavour, salt, potassium sorbate.

Just like you make at home!

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#228581 - 29/07/2004 08:59 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: rob]
tman
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3 types of sugar, 3 thickeners and 1 emulsifier. Mmmm.... Tasty....

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#228582 - 29/07/2004 11:07 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: rob]
mschrag
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This makes me think about their chicken mcnuggets -- it's just unnatural to have repeating shapes of chicken lumps (the boot, the circle, etc). It means there's a chicken mold somewhere that is filled with extruded chicken mush, and that is just disturbing.

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#228583 - 29/07/2004 11:52 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: mschrag]
jmwking
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it's just unnatural to have repeating shapes of chicken lumps (the boot, the circle, etc). It means there's a chicken mold somewhere that is filled with extruded chicken mush, and that is just disturbing.

People extrude and shape almost every kind of meat - think hamburgers, hotdogs, sausages, etc. - why should chicken be any different?

Now as to what exactly they extrude before reforming and call "chicken", that's where McD's scares me.

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#228584 - 29/07/2004 13:17 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: jmwking]
mschrag
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Yeah I suppose you're right -- This ties into my previous comment about hotdogs ... I must say, they taste great, but I saw a documentary on hotdogs and the production process was less than appetizing. I think meat extrusion in general is pretty gross.

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#228585 - 29/07/2004 13:42 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: jmwking]
trs24
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Registered: 20/03/2002
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Now as to what exactly they extrude before reforming and call "chicken", that's where McD's scares me.

Again, they list the ingredients. Surprisingly, they actually contain some rather normal things like rosemary. They also contain something that McDonalds simply calls "natural flavoring (animal source)." Kinda sounds like "essence of animal" - rather disgusting. It's also rather odd that they list mono- and diglycerides and lecithin as "seasoning."

Chicken McNuggets® Made with White Meat:
Boneless chicken breast, water, modified cornstarch, salt, chicken flavor (yeast extract, salt, wheat starch, natural flavoring (animal source), safflower oil, dextrose, citric acid, rosemary), sodium phosphates, seasoning (natural extractives of rosemary, canola and/or soybean oil, mono-and diglycerides, and lecithin). Battered and Breaded with: Water, enriched bleached wheat flour (flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt, leavening (baking soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate, calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, whey, corn starch. Breading set in vegetable oil. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil).
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#228586 - 29/07/2004 13:50 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: trs24]
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At least the main ingredient is chicken
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#228587 - 29/07/2004 14:03 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: frog51]
tman
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heh. yeah. Give it a few years and we'll probably have GM chicken nuggets that come ready breaded

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#228588 - 29/07/2004 14:26 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: frog51]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
They did change them recently over here. There was a lot of advertisement that they wew now using all white meat. I wonder what the ingredients looked like before that.
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#228589 - 29/07/2004 15:23 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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There was a lot of advertisement that they are now using all white meat.

Yeah, this was actually a bummer to my wife. She had a very specific preference of wanting only the McNuggets that were dark meat. She got to the point where she could tell by looking at the outside of the McNugget whether it was white meat or dark meat inside. Whenever we went to Mickey D's, she'd sort through and give me all the white meat ones. Scary.
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#228590 - 29/07/2004 15:33 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: tfabris]
JeffS
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She had a very specific preference of wanting only the McNuggets that were dark meat. She got to the point where she could tell by looking at the outside of the McNugget whether it was white meat or dark meat inside. Whenever we went to Mickey D's, she'd sort through and give me all the white meat ones. Scary.
My wife did the same, believe it or not, though I can't remember if it was light or dark that she wanted. I could never tell the difference, nor did I care. But it was a big deal to her.
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#228591 - 29/07/2004 18:17 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: wfaulk]
Ezekiel
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What about Quorn McNuggets? Check out the 'fermented food' link on the left edge of that page. I know it's probably fine, but processed fungus in place of meat isn't my idea of a tasty snack. Maybe a chocolate quorn shake?

-Zeke
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#228592 - 30/07/2004 19:27 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: mschrag]
mschrag
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All hail the newly delivered milkshake machine. Giver of life, milkshakes, and weight gain. I am officially going to throw up from drinking too many milkshakes.

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#228593 - 31/07/2004 00:44 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: mschrag]
gbeer
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Here's hoping you don't deadlock on what flavor to try first. Cheers.
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#228594 - 31/07/2004 17:55 Re: Ultimate chocolate milkshake? [Re: mschrag]
Ezekiel
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Go get a pint of fresh strawberries and throw them in with some vanilla and some milk. Yummm!

-Zeke

...wanders off to find the old Waring...
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