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#231301 - 23/08/2004 14:29 P2P networks found legal!
wfaulk
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#231302 - 23/08/2004 14:40 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: wfaulk]
frog51
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Excellent - about time judges got a clue
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#231303 - 23/08/2004 14:43 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: frog51]
tman
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Yeah but 99% of what people share still isn't

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#231304 - 23/08/2004 14:48 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: tman]
wfaulk
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That's fine. Go after them. But making P2P networks illegal is about half a step away from making encryption illegal.
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#231305 - 23/08/2004 14:59 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: wfaulk]
tman
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Strong encryption is still illegal in some place isn't it? From memory, France had a law against it or something?

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#231306 - 23/08/2004 15:20 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: tman]
peter
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From memory, France had a law against it or something?

Used to -- not any more.

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#231307 - 23/08/2004 15:28 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: peter]
tman
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Ah. Didn't know it had changed.

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#231308 - 23/08/2004 15:28 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: peter]
wfaulk
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Regardless, we're talking about the US. Unless the 9th District carries much more weight than I thought it did.
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#231309 - 23/08/2004 15:30 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: wfaulk]
tman
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Yeah but you guys used to forbid the export of strong crypto because it was a munition. I think you still limit it to certain countries but everybody does that.

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#231310 - 23/08/2004 15:36 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: tman]
wfaulk
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But it was free for use for anyone inside the US. I'm talking civil rights, really. Unless there's some export ban on P2P software I'm not aware of.

(And, really, the way it's worded is more "everywhere but these countries" and not "only these countries".)
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#231311 - 24/08/2004 06:12 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: tman]
frog51
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Luckily PGP helped kill that one:) Legal to export a printed copy of the source code for PGP and then use OCR to input to computer in another country - brilliant!
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#231312 - 24/08/2004 10:18 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: frog51]
tman
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Yeah. That was just weird. As long as it's printed on pieces of dead tree then it's okay to export even if it was made to be easy to OCR! I've got a copy of Applied Crypto and that also was legal to export

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#231313 - 24/08/2004 10:25 Re: P2P networks found legal! [Re: tman]
frog51
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The wonders of free speech and art when applied to code as munitions:)

Still, it made sense, as the bad guys would happily take it out of the country anyway - this just made it available to the general public.
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