Unoffical empeg BBS

Quick Links: Empeg FAQ | RioCar.Org | Hijack | BigDisk Builder | jEmplode | emphatic
Repairs: Repairs

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#234994 - 07/10/2004 03:11 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: mschrag]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Well, it seems to work from within the player; So the protocol handler code itself is broken? It's be wrong to teach jEmplode to read the stuff out, change the array, and write it back. Right?

Top
#234995 - 07/10/2004 04:12 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Daria]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Which array? You mean read the raw dynamic data partition out and then write it back? I believe jEmplode actually does read the raw partition, but the Empeg protocol specified that writes happen one at a time on the fid|0xf files. It's certainly conceivable that I could write the entire partition back, but I don't know if I have direct write access to it without hijack help (I believe if you try to write back to the dynamic data FID, it says "no problem" and then ignores you).

Top
#234996 - 07/10/2004 04:28 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: mschrag]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
The array of marks. But isn't it in the flash?

Top
#234997 - 07/10/2004 06:55 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: tms13]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
It explains why the "ignore as child" setting I tried to apply is being lost.


No it doesn't. The "ignore as child" setting goes in the *1 file.
_________________________
-- roger

Top
#234998 - 07/10/2004 06:56 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Daria]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
The array of marks. But isn't it in the flash?


Nope. It's in dynamic data.
_________________________
-- roger

Top
#234999 - 07/10/2004 12:11 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: tms13]
tms13
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Okay, I found a couple of playlists that I want a persistent sort on. The Artist ones were straightforward (alphabetically by artist - I use artist to store the sort-order version, surname first), but my Essential Singles collection, which I keep in reverse chronological order, had me stumped. How do I set a persistent sort that's not in the "natural" direction for the key?
_________________________
Toby Speight
030103016 (80GB Mk2a, blue)
030102806 (0GB Mk2a, blue)

Top
#235000 - 07/10/2004 12:12 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Roger]
tms13
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Quote:
Quote:
It explains why the "ignore as child" setting I tried to apply is being lost.


No it doesn't. The "ignore as child" setting goes in the *1 file.


Er, yes. Forget my comment then. It was probably a one-off, as it's working now.
_________________________
Toby Speight
030103016 (80GB Mk2a, blue)
030102806 (0GB Mk2a, blue)

Top
#235001 - 07/10/2004 13:24 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: tms13]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Yeah, the "reverse" flags is hardcoded to true right now ... Only because those need to be set together, but right now the sort tag = tag name, so some things assume they can just take the value and lookup the NodeTag for it. I just didn't get a chance to fix it so it's like "tagname,direction" and the couple of places that directly use that tag. It's on the list that will probably make the next build. I started to do it for 69 actually, but i cut it because 69 had some big fixes that i wanted to get out quicker.

Top
#235002 - 07/10/2004 13:24 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: tms13]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Quote:
it's working now.

If you see this again, let me know and I'll check it out further ...

Top
#235003 - 07/10/2004 15:41 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: mschrag]
genixia
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Something Derrick's just said has given me an idea for a feature request. Can we have a "Clear All Marked Flags" button?
_________________________
Mk2a 60GB Blue. Serial 030102962 sig.mp3: File Format not Valid.

Top
#235004 - 07/10/2004 16:46 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: genixia]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
If I could successfully write marked tags back, you could

Top
#235005 - 07/10/2004 16:48 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: genixia]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Yeah, I was considering just writing a tool to do it. It should be be writing a block of zeroes at a fixed offset...

Top
#235006 - 07/10/2004 17:42 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Daria]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
DynamicData isn't just "marked" by the way .. it has playcount, lastplayed, and some other stuff in there. Check out (IIRC) dyndata.h (dyndata*.h) in emptool.

Top
#235007 - 07/10/2004 17:54 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: mschrag]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Quote:
DynamicData isn't just "marked" by the way .. it has playcount, lastplayed, and some other stuff in there. Check out (IIRC) dyndata.h (dyndata*.h) in emptool.


Ok, so the tool would just be a little different. I guess I really should get back to work on scratchlib.

Top
#235008 - 07/10/2004 18:45 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Daria]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Just didn't want you to zero out all your other data

Top
#235009 - 07/10/2004 20:55 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: mschrag]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I back up the entire dynamic data slice before I mess with it. I also have a backup of genixia's slice, since we used his player to AutoEQ in my car. I still haven't extracted settings, because I keep saying I'm going to finish scratchlib. Of course, this week my wife has been taking the car anyway, so...

Top
#235010 - 07/10/2004 22:29 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Daria]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Is there a way to transfer that data from one empeg to another (for AutoEQ)?
_________________________
Brad B.

Top
#235011 - 07/10/2004 22:37 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
it's a block of data in the dynamic slice, I could probably work up a shell script that calls dd and ftp for you, since I doubt I will finish scratchlib soon

Top
#235012 - 29/10/2004 15:42 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: tms13]
zexpe
journeyman

Registered: 21/08/2002
Posts: 63
Loc: Edinburgh, UK
Mike, are you planning to include some way of allowing us to have secondary, tertiary etc. sub-sorts for our soups/playlists for the next release? Just making sure the sorting algorithm is stable (maybe have an option to use the old algorithm) would be great.

It would make the new sort layers for soups much more powerful if we could, say, add multiple sort layers for each sub-sort. If the sorting algorithm was stable I think this would naturally happen.

The reason I would like this feature is because when I create genre soups I like to have each genre soup playlist sorted by artist-year-album-track# so that I still have the ability to unshuffle around an album when playing a shuffled genre playlist.

Thanks,
Ross

Top
#235013 - 29/10/2004 16:40 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: zexpe]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I actually haven't been able to really work on the next version yet, so there's nothing in particular lined up, but this one is definitely on the list and would be a likely candidate.

Top
#235014 - 30/10/2004 01:30 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: mschrag]
The Central Guy
enthusiast

Registered: 18/03/2002
Posts: 225
Loc: San Diego, California USA
Not sure how much work it would be, but I'd like to request a small feature upgrade for jEmplode70...When drilling down to the dialog box for each song labeled "Tune" (the one that has fields for Title, Artist, Album, Genre, Year, Track #, PIN, and comments), would it be possible to add a field at the bottom next to Ok and Cancel called "Next" that would go to the next tune in the list? There's been quite a few times where that would have been quite handy to have...

Oh well, just my $.02....Thanks, Randy
_________________________
Happy owner of 2 Centrals, 2 Empegs Mk2a 160GB, 1 Empeg Mk2a 60 GB, a Rio Riot, 4 Rio Receivers, and two 1GB iPod Shuffles...

Top
#235015 - 30/10/2004 04:12 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: The Central Guy]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Sounds cool. I'd like the abililty to go to the next tune with something like Enter or Ctrl+enter, so that if I'm tagging a group of tunes, I can change them in order. Your NEXT button could be mapped to a keystroke like that. Combined with Mike's "Tony Selection" feature which handles the selection of the song title when the box is opened, it could make complete album edits very quickly.
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#235016 - 02/11/2004 06:44 Re: 69. Initiate off-color jokes mode. [Re: mschrag]
image
old hand

Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
a bug... i did a sync of one directory, and then tried to add another directory while in the middle of it.... the sync froze right after i dragged the files into the window.

Top
#235017 - 02/11/2004 11:32 Re: 69. Initiate off-color jokes mode. [Re: image]
mschrag
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I'm probably going to be MIA from jEmplode development for a little while until I get into the groove w/ my new job, so I wouldn't keep your hopes up for a 70 release in the next few weeks ... Consider the bug noted, though.

Top
#235018 - 02/11/2004 16:35 Re: 69. Initiate off-color jokes mode. [Re: mschrag]
mcomb
pooh-bah

Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Is it just me or does sorting not work at all in 69? If I try to set Tag Name to Sort On to 'tracknr' in the main Options dialog the setting isn't saved. If I try to do it in properties for the individual playlist it is saved, but doesn't work. The sorting seems to be completely random. The only thing that does seem to work is alpha sorting.

Maybe it is just that I don't understand the sort changes in version 69, but none of the sort options that I can find seem to work for me.

-Mike


Edited by mcomb (02/11/2004 16:37)
_________________________
EmpMenuX - ext3 filesystem - Empeg iTunes integration

Top
#235019 - 10/11/2004 16:12 Re: 69. Initiate off-color jokes mode. [Re: mcomb]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I seem to have the same problem. Sorting doesn't work. If I hit the sort button more than once, I get a different order every time.

Also, it's filling in some Playlist fields as "Various" when I don't see any reason for it to be doing so.
_________________________
Bitt Faulk

Top
#235020 - 11/11/2004 15:03 Re: 69. Initiate off-color jokes mode. [Re: mschrag]
tms13
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Minor bug for when you get back into JE dev:

"Tony-select" seems to be always on when creating a new playlist, regardless of my configure preference. IOW, if I create a new playlist, I get asked for its name, but if I've already selected some text to enter, it gets usurped by the dialog changing the selection to "New Playlist".
_________________________
Toby Speight
030103016 (80GB Mk2a, blue)
030102806 (0GB Mk2a, blue)

Top
#235021 - 22/12/2004 15:50 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: Roger]
zexpe
journeyman

Registered: 21/08/2002
Posts: 63
Loc: Edinburgh, UK
Quote:
Quote:
BTW, is it right that I now have a bunch of *f files in my fids directories? I thought *f were supposed to be virtual files, and never saved to disk. I'm sure that earlier versions didn't do this.


IIRC, the *F files are intercepted by the empeg protocol endpoint on the player and redirected to the dynamic data area.

I don't think that Hijack's FTP server knows what to do with them.

I think that JEmplode is sending them regardless of the underlying connection method.


OK, as a regular jemplode 69 user, does this mean I can safely delete all 3000+ *f files in my fids directory? And will jemplode 69 just recreate them again willy-nilly! ;-)

Ross

Top
#235022 - 23/12/2004 17:34 Re: jemplode 69 [Re: zexpe]
mcomb
pooh-bah

Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Quote:
OK, as a regular jemplode 69 user, does this mean I can safely delete all 3000+ *f files in my fids directory? And will jemplode 69 just recreate them again willy-nilly! ;-)


Yes (he said without actually trying it), and yes. If they really bug you turn off the "Use Hijack when possible" checkbox in the options and then jEmplode should use the empeg's native protocol for transfer which will put new *f files where they belong (won't do anything about the existing ones though). That will slow down your new music uploads a bit.

-Mike
_________________________
EmpMenuX - ext3 filesystem - Empeg iTunes integration

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2