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#238459 - 15/09/2005 18:49 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
eliceo enthusiast Registered: 18/02/2002 Posts: 335	My Bp6 had many stability issues related to the capacitor problems and APIC stuff. The apic stuff made redhat and fedora go goofy. It was a cool board, but the frustration made me stop using it.
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#238460 - 15/09/2005 18:58 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: eliceo]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Quote: My Bp6 had many stability issues related to the capacitor problems and APIC stuff. The apic stuff made redhat and fedora go goofy. It was a cool board, but the frustration made me stop using it. Yeah man, frustrating isn't the word. I've tried so many things. The capacitor problem is common and well documented, and the one on my board has been replaced with the correct type. Whether its a good enough joint, I don't know. I've tried a chunkier power supply, running with one processor, swapping the RAM about, newer BIOSes, with ACPI, without ACPI... I've had enough. btw, er, what is an APIC? _________________________ Hussein
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#238461 - 15/09/2005 19:08 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
eliceo enthusiast Registered: 18/02/2002 Posts: 335	I always confuse the two, but one of them is a power and resources management thing ( I think). It had lots of problems with certain linux distributions. It would just more or less halt. I didn't every bother to try and figure out the problem fully.
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#238462 - 15/09/2005 19:53 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
mlord carpal tunnel Registered: 29/08/2000 Posts: 14493 Loc: Canada	Lots of people reporting similar problems (exact same hd messages) on a variety of systems these days. I think somebody broke something deep in the IDE layer in the kernel.. -ml
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#238463 - 15/09/2005 20:30 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: eliceo]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Quote: I always confuse the two, but one of them is a power and resources management thing ( I think). It had lots of problems with certain linux distributions. That would be ACPI. Advanced Computer and Power Interface. Some older implementations are flaky, yeah, but I think newer hardware and the latest kernels have got it in the bag now so compatibility should be vastly better than before. I found that APIC is 'Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller'. Apparantly its 'Advanced' because it can handle multiple CPUs and usually has more interrupt lines than a standard PIC. FOLDOC is great. I would think that a flaky APIC would bring your PC to its knees (not that I know all that much about it). But according to the Internet, those APIC kernel messages are harmless if infrequent. _________________________ Hussein
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#238464 - 17/09/2005 10:58 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Quote: Tomorrow it will be replaced with a Abit/VIA/Sempron setup and my old Promise PCI IDE controller. So, I got my Abit KV8 Pro board, Sempron 2600+ Retail, 512MB Samsung PC3200 CL3, and a WD Caviar 250GB SATA drive all yesterday and set about assembing it in some cheap case I got and a Antec power supply taken from a Sonata. It doesn't work. Lights on, fans spinning and no-one home. the 'uGuru' display says '90' which means it has passed all the pre-flight checks and the BIOS has taken over. No picture on the screen, no beeps, nothing. Stupid piece of junk. _________________________ Hussein
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#238465 - 18/09/2005 00:03 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
Taym carpal tunnel Registered: 18/06/2001 Posts: 2504 Loc: Roma, Italy	Most likely, an incompatible memory module. It happened exactly the same thing to me. No beep and no error code of any kind. Try replacing memory with some other brand, and don't thing that having the same specs is enough. I found that theoretically identical dimms as to specifications could still behave differently, unfortunately. _________________________ = Taym = MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb All/Colors Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg
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#238466 - 18/09/2005 10:45 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: Taym]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Thanks taym. I've been using a Samsung original 512MB stick of PC3200 that is new, and I tried a stick of TwinMOS el-cheapo PC3200 from my old PC that I know works. The Samsung stick seems to work alright in my other PC. The only other stuff that is plugged into the board is an old Matrox G400 16MB AGP which I know works, and nothing else. I think its basically either the chip or the board which is dud, and I have no way of knowing for sure which. Meh, I took a chance and filed a DOA RMA on the board. Fingers crossed it will get sorted sharpish. _________________________ Hussein
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#238467 - 18/09/2005 11:36 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Does the board have one of the 4 pin AUX12V connectors? If thats not connected properly then some boards don't work properly.
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#238468 - 18/09/2005 14:37 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: tman]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Thanks tman Yep, it has one of those and I have it hooked up. Just to check, I unplugged it and the uGuru chip displayed the correct error code on the little LED display and the speaker beeped a crazed tune at me. Thats how I knew that the speaker worked Modern mobos should all totally have surface mount speakers and diagnostic displays. _________________________ Hussein
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#238469 - 18/09/2005 15:02 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: sein]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Sorry. Had to ask I've got a AMD Athlon board which needed the AUX12V connected otherwise it would mysteriously crash even when idling. Having the POST numbers or even diagnostic LEDs are great. The old system of beeps drove me nuts. Was that long long short long or long short long long?
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#238470 - 18/09/2005 19:21 Re: Raid systems: Proprietary? [Re: tman]
sein old hand Registered: 07/01/2005 Posts: 893 Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa	Hehee, totally been there! Anyway, I think maybe I found the problem, see this thread. Basically I think I need a BIOS upgrade for the CPU I have. _________________________ Hussein
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