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#252591 - 25/03/2005 08:29 Dr Who
Roger
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So, the first showing of the new series of Dr. Who will be on BBC2 on Saturday.

This leaves me with a problem: My Myth box isn't finished yet, I don't have a video recorder, and I'll be in Meribel seeing if there's any snow...

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#252592 - 25/03/2005 09:20 Re: Dr Who [Re: Roger]
thinfourth2
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i am sure someone will record it
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#252593 - 25/03/2005 09:25 Re: Dr Who [Re: Roger]
andy
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BitTorrent is your friend...

You've got a PM.
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#252594 - 25/03/2005 13:33 Re: Dr Who [Re: Roger]
wfaulk
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I have a bigger problem. I'm in neither the UK nor Canada (where it'll be shown on the CBC on April 5).

BitTorrent remains our friend.
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#252595 - 26/03/2005 00:45 Re: Dr Who [Re: Roger]
gbeer
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Drat - It's not on Directv.
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#252596 - 26/03/2005 14:12 Re: Dr Who [Re: andy]
andym
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I was bored on Wednesday so I downloaded it. Let me know if you want it.
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#252597 - 26/03/2005 14:57 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
wfaulk
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Aparently the version that snuck out doesn't have completed SFX and such. I'm waiting for the real version. It's only a few hours away now anyway.
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#252598 - 26/03/2005 17:26 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
boxer
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I've got it on my Sky+ box, if all else fails1!
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#252599 - 26/03/2005 18:40 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
andy
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Aparently the version that snuck out doesn't have completed SFX and such. I'm waiting for the real version. It's only a few hours away now anyway.


The broadcast version was exactly the same as the leaked version.
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#252600 - 26/03/2005 19:05 Re: Dr Who [Re: andy]
wfaulk
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Well, I'm glad I waited, then.
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#252601 - 27/03/2005 17:21 Re: Dr Who [Re: andy]
andym
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Aparently the version that snuck out doesn't have completed SFX and such. I'm waiting for the real version. It's only a few hours away now anyway.


The broadcast version was exactly the same as the leaked version.


Apart from the Ep 2 teaser and the fact Pres still had the Strictly Dance Fever studio faded up. I'm really pissed off about that, it sums up the deskilling in the broadcast industry. My letter to Ariel is already has already been emailed.
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#252602 - 27/03/2005 19:51 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
andy
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The broadcast version was exactly the same as the leaked version.


I'm really pissed off about that, it sums up the deskilling in the broadcast industry. My letter to Ariel is already has already been emailed.


I know what you mean. Even Eryl said of the doctored (accidental pun, honest) photos, "You could have added the Doctor into those photos better than whoever did them". It looked like some trainee had read the introduction to "Learn Photoshop in 14 days" and then spent 10 minutes having a go.
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#252603 - 28/03/2005 07:32 Re: Dr Who [Re: andy]
andym
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Given the amount of detail that went into things like the building explosion which was only on screen for a very short time it seems rather silly to have something like those photos which are actually on screen longer.
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#252604 - 28/03/2005 14:13 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
wfaulk
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Apart from the Ep 2 teaser and the fact Pres still had the Strictly Dance Fever studio faded up. I'm really pissed off about that, it sums up the deskilling in the broadcast industry. My letter to Ariel is already has already been emailed.

Okay, I didn't understand a word of that.

Still, the special effects left something to be desired. And I could have done without the burp joke.

Altogether, a passable pilot. Too bad they spent so much time acting like the audience didn't know what was going on. I understand that they're gearing it towards kids who haven't seen Doctor Who before, but it was a little tiring to those of us that have. Well, it was to me, anyway.

I'm also a little disappointed that stories are apparently to be wrapped up in a single 45 minute show instead of getting, usually, four 25-minute episodes. That means that each story will be shorter than the shortest Who stories from times past. I don't think that bodes well. (Also, the 45-minute shows harken back to Colin Baker Doctor Who, not really the implication one wants to give.)

Hopefully next week's will be better.
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#252605 - 28/03/2005 14:46 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
andym
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I don't know which version you ended up getting, but the one transmitted on BBC One on Saturday suffered from a slight technical hitch. It was surrounded on either side by a rather dubious show about who can dance the best. The people performed on the show before Doctor Who which left time for people to vote shortly after which there was another show for the results.

For some reason the audio from the studio that the show was coming from was inadvertantly faded up during the bit with Rose in the basement with dummys. So during a moment of great suspense you hear a camp irish man saying 'So I go over there then?' and a few other choice TV phrases.

A few years ago there would've been people trained sufficiently enough not to let that happen. Nowadays they simply blame the equipment which is now bought off the shelf and is totally unfit for purpose.
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#252606 - 28/03/2005 14:53 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
CrackersMcCheese
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Funny... I didn't hear Graham Norton on the BBC Scotland broadcast. Different transmission?

As for the photos, I assumed that as they were so obviously fake that it was meant to be funny. Or that the guy had made them himself. Or something.


Edited by Philip O'Hare (28/03/2005 14:58)

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#252607 - 28/03/2005 15:05 Re: Dr Who [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
andym
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Time to don the nerd hat....

It depends upon whether BBC Scotland was simply taking the sustaining feed from London or playing Doctor Who locally from the their own Pres. If you didn't hear it then the chances are you were watching a locally originated version. Did you have strictly dance fever on before?
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#252608 - 28/03/2005 15:05 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
wfaulk
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I got the leaked episode. No Graham Norton for me, fortunately.
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#252609 - 28/03/2005 15:10 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
andym
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That was the version i originally got. The ep 2 tease was nice but I'm sure you can wait until next week.
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#252610 - 28/03/2005 15:27 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
wfaulk
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I tend to not watch those anyway. I prefer the story to be presented to me in the way that the producers intend, not how some marketroid wants to entice me.
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#252611 - 28/03/2005 15:40 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
CrackersMcCheese
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The horrendous show was on before and after but I didn't watch it. Graham Norton just saps my soul of all life.

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#252612 - 28/03/2005 16:43 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
g_attrill
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On uk.media.tv.misc somebody reported that the apparently highly-publicised Audio Description (aka. "narrative") also wasn't switched on until about five minutes in.

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#252613 - 28/03/2005 17:32 Re: Dr Who [Re: g_attrill]
andym
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Ahh, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

EDIT: Or possibly elephants.....


Edited by andym (28/03/2005 17:33)
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#252614 - 28/03/2005 17:50 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
CrackersMcCheese
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I'd trust a monkey/elephant to do a better job.

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#252615 - 31/03/2005 16:06 Re: Dr Who [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
pgrzelak
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#252616 - 31/03/2005 16:24 Re: Dr Who [Re: pgrzelak]
andym
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He's never been in anything for very long. I'm surprised they weren't aware of it. He does a lot of one-off stuff or short run programs. He wasn't in Cracker very long either.
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#252617 - 31/03/2005 17:02 Re: Dr Who [Re: andym]
wfaulk
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At this rate, they're going to burn through those 12 regenerations in a hurry. Maybe he'll figure out some way to harness the power of the Eye of Harmony that doesn't involve assassinating the President of the Time Lords.

</geek>
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#252618 - 31/03/2005 19:00 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
JeffS
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At this rate, they're going to burn through those 12 regenerations in a hurry.
I've been wondering about that. It seems it's in the best interest of the show to find actors that will stick around for a while.
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#252619 - 07/04/2005 23:48 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
wfaulk
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I guess everyone's as underwhelmed as I am.

It's far from bad. It's probably good, but it's just not the second coming (which I swear was not a reference to another TV show when it popped into my head).

The latest episode felt a little more like Dr. Who, but was fairly claustrophobic, I thought, without intending to be. I mean, here we are in outer space watching a massive celestial event and all we really get to see are about three rooms on this space station. At certain instances, it felt an awful lot like a less comedic Red Dwarf.

Also, as I feared, it was a little rushed. Having roughly half the time to tell a story in just doesn't leave much room for the soul of Doctor Who. It was like we were rushing around to different points to make sure to get the plot in, with little time for reflection, like we were trying to get back to where we were when our text adventure game crashed. (Exit. N. Show Paper. E. Z. Z. Take sphere. Exhale. Etc.)

Other random nitpicks: The flash point of wood on Earth today is 330 to 470 degrees Celsius (according to a 1970 USDA Forest Service research paper), yet the Doctor didn't even seem phased by the heat. Maybe he's hardier than I thought. The plot was a little too obvious, I thought, and only marginally compelling -- a very, very, simple parlor detective story. I have the feeling there may have been a little more there in its initial concept, what with the talk of finances, but it just didn't make it to the actual broadcast show. A sputum joke to go with last week's burp joke. A talk to the face joke? Really? I feel like there are more, but I can't think of them now.

I just don't feel like it's going to get much better.
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#252620 - 08/04/2005 05:59 Re: Dr Who [Re: wfaulk]
andym
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It's probably good, but it's just not the second coming (which I swear was not a reference to another TV show when it popped into my head).


Christopher Ecclestone was in that too....
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