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#252807 - 11/07/2005 19:43 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback - INSTALLED! [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Tony - my dimmer's working just fine. The Subaru line goes to 12V when the headlights are enabled, and 0V when they're off (although the headlamps are never truly off b/c of the daytime running lights).

-Zeke
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#252808 - 11/07/2005 19:55 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback - INSTALLED! [Re: Ezekiel]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
pull on the handbrake, and the daytime running lights will probably turn off. Only when parked, though.

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#252809 - 13/07/2005 10:15 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback - INSTALLED! [Re: mlord]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
I and my neighbors thank you for that tip Mark.
-Zeke

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#252810 - 14/07/2005 23:06 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback - INSTALLED! [Re: Ezekiel]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
On the Imprezas, there is a tiny plug you can undo under the hood to disable the DRLs. I assume you can find the same thing on your car.
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#252811 - 15/07/2005 12:44 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback - INSTALLED! [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Yeah, I know about the plug, I think it's behind the glovebox on the Outback/Legacys. I get an insurance discount for the DRL's so I don't really want to permanently disable them. Mark's e-brake trick is good enough for me, as what really bothers me about them is when the car is idling in the driveway at night. I don't like blinding the neighbors any more than is necessary.

-Zeke

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#252812 - 04/10/2005 08:36 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: cushman]
estocks
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Registered: 25/07/2003
Posts: 48
Loc: Reading UK
<http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=48&products_id=143>
Stumbled on this and thought of you.
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#252813 - 04/10/2005 19:43 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: estocks]
eliceo
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Registered: 18/02/2002
Posts: 335
That thing looks sweet and not too expensive either. Too bad I already hacked up my dash. The empeg would get realy washed out in the gauge pod anway.

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#252814 - 05/10/2005 10:26 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: estocks]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
That would be an interesting option if I had the base model Legacy (4 cylinder, non-turbo). The models with dual-zone automatic climate control have the HVAC integrated with the stereo head unit's electronics, and if you want to replace the radio you have to lose the dual-zone temperature functions, which I'm not willing to do.

Cool unit thought, no doubt.

-Zeke
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#252815 - 19/10/2005 05:33 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: Ezekiel]
bootsy
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Registered: 17/08/2000
Posts: 334
Loc: Seattle, WA. USA
I am not familiar with the interior of the Legacy's (Legacies?) but I just got my empeg installed in my 2006 WRX. The intaller made a custom "gauge pod" sort of thing for the empeg.I don't know if the Legacy line has as space for such a thing. It looks pretty good, but the controls are uncomfortable to use. Nothing a well placed remote wouldn't fix.

I will post install pics in a new thread as soon as I can find my camera battery charger... it's in a box... somewhere.
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#252816 - 27/10/2005 23:19 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: bootsy]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
OOOhhh...! New install prOn!
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#252817 - 30/10/2005 04:43 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: loren]
bootsy
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Registered: 17/08/2000
Posts: 334
Loc: Seattle, WA. USA
Still can't find the camera charger...

...but the car kicks ass.
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#252818 - 30/10/2005 12:31 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: bootsy]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
Oh, you tease!
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#252819 - 19/11/2005 07:26 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: cushman]
iank
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 33
FWIW, here's the final install pics. Not sure if I posted this or not, I know I did over at Legacygt.com. Anyway:

http://www.funkbasealpha.com/gallery.htm

The dimmer works now. It's all quite nice. Once I got power to the in-glass antenna the radio module kicked fine.

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#252820 - 20/11/2005 21:32 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: iank]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
That's a great looking install. How did you brace the sled to the inside of the dash (fixing the angle)? That's one issue I've not resolved.

-Zeke
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#252821 - 30/11/2005 02:23 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: Ezekiel]
iank
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 33
Quote:
That's a great looking install. How did you brace the sled to the inside of the dash (fixing the angle)? That's one issue I've not resolved.
-Zeke


There's a metal brace that runs under the sled front to back and supports it. It is fastened to the steel crossmember behind the cubby between the air vents and to the base of the cubby/vent fasica up front via an avaiable screw hole. This ties the cubby to the chasis of the vehicle quite securely and provides support for the sled.

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#252822 - 08/12/2005 17:53 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: iank]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Sweet. Thanks for the info. I'm going to reinstall the empeg once the weather warms up. I wasn't happy with the RF install and don't much feel like mucking with it when the mercury's low.

-Zeke
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#252823 - 13/01/2006 05:17 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: Ezekiel]
iank
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 33
I've run into, or rather created, a new issue.

My current setup has the antenna power (power to the amp for the in-glass antenna) comming from the factory head unit. So, in order to listen to the EMPEG radio I need to turn on the stock radio. No biggie, but I thought it'd be a more elegant solution to have the empeg power the antenna amp.

So, I moved the power lead from the factory HU to the antenna lead on the tuner and when I did that the empeg refused to boot. It behaved as if there was no power.

So I disconected the factory HU. Then the EMPEG started working and the antenna amp got power but the system made a loud pop when it shut down.

Anyway, I'm back to powering the antenna from the factory HU. I haven't spent any more time troubleshooting, it's too damn cold in the garage to spend more than an hour out there anyway. My current theory is that it's a groudning issue of some kind.

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#252824 - 13/01/2006 07:26 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: iank]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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So, I moved the power lead from the factory HU to the antenna lead on the tuner and when I did that the empeg refused to boot.

I'm guessing you moved the wrong wire, or hooked something up wrong, or crossed a wire somewhere, or something. I'm thinking along the lines of a power or signal feed getting hooked up to a ground, or a power feed hooked up to a signal feed. Something like that.

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Then the EMPEG started working and the antenna amp got power but the system made a loud pop when it shut down.

Continued indications of the error above. Also, potential indications of a blown fuse on the empeg main power lead. Or some sort of negative voltage getting applied to something that expects a positivie voltage or vice-versa.
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#252825 - 14/01/2006 06:44 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: tfabris]
iank
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 33
Yep. When it first happend I assumed a dorked wire.

I double cheked it, the wire I moved IS the antenna power lead. It does work as long as the stock unit is not engaged.

The bummer here is I did not do the install (first mistake) so more time will be needed to untangle the puzzle. There is some quesionable hook ups, IE: the illumination lead is connected to a wire that previously ran to the light in the cubby that the empeg now occupies.

Anyway, when things get a bit warmer I'll re-do the entire thing. But your hunch about the cause jives with mine.

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#252826 - 14/01/2006 15:55 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: iank]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, I'd look carefully at how the original install was done and find out if THEY hooked up a wire wrong or something.
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#252827 - 20/02/2006 23:50 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: tfabris]
iank
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 33
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Yeah, I'd look carefully at how the original install was done and find out if THEY hooked up a wire wrong or something.


This past weekend I re-wired the whole thing and it's all working great. Their wiring harness was weird with the ground going to the frame of the radio stack and into the subaru harness and they had the dimmer line hooked to the light for the cubby.

I ripped it out and replaced it with one from http://www.geocities.com/svxdc/WRXharness.htm and all is well. No hacky wire runs. The EMPEG tuner powers the antenna amp, no weird pops on shut-down. The dimmer works as expected. It's all good. You do need to have the factory head unit/climate control module plugged in or it WILL pop on shutdown. But since you want that plugged in anyway (for AC), it's no bigge.

I've yet to find an audio sintall place that has a high level of attention to detail. They can get the rough stuff done fine (amp racks, sub enclosures, wire runs etc) but when it comes to doing a clean wiring job that doesn't look like a rats nest they just don't bother. I know you cannot see it, but I know it's there and I like to know that it's tidy and well laid-out.

-Ian

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#252828 - 22/02/2006 19:00 Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback Double DIN Bezel - Replaced Pocket [Re: iank]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Excellent, glad it's all working for you.
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