#265139 - 13/09/2005 22:25
empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
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new poster
Registered: 13/09/2005
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Hello to the empeg community,
my Pioneer MiniDisk radio just doesnt cut it, when it comes to variety of stored music. I searched Hi and Lo for a reasonable HDD car stereo until I stumbled across this site.
empeg/ rio car is just what I was looking for.
I looked through the sales forum and it didnt seem right to post a WTB there. From what Ive read so far I would very much be interested in a Mk.2 or Mk.2a that can be used in the car/ at home.
Im not looking for the cheap solution, everything has its price. All I would want is something I can enjoy for a long time in the coming years...
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#265140 - 13/09/2005 23:07
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I looked through the sales forum and it didnt seem right to post a WTB there.
Actually, the For Sale forum is PRECISELY where you should post a WTB. Go for it.
Welcome to the community. Hope you get an empeg. They're pretty neat.
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#265141 - 13/09/2005 23:07
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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You have come to the right place. Keep an eye on the For Sale forum - players are listed there periodically. Also, please take a look through the Empeg FAQ. There is a lot of great information there to help you get started.
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#265142 - 13/09/2005 23:22
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
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...and keep an eye on eBay, too! A simple search for 'empeg' usually does the trick.
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#265143 - 13/09/2005 23:39
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/09/2000
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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#265144 - 14/09/2005 00:04
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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addict
Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 599
Loc: Florida
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If you want to run the Alpha 3 player software (it plays oggs and flacs) try to get the mk2a as it has just a bit more memory. Also anyone that is selling a unit should provide you with the serial number before you buy it. I myself have purchased 2 from here and 1 from SonicBlue. I only own two since I purchased one for a friend.
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#265145 - 14/09/2005 05:22
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: Attack]
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Registered: 13/09/2005
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Thnx a bunch everyone  ! Yes, I check ebay (from now on), Ok, I will post a WTB in the Sales forum & thnx for the tip with the Mk.2a +Alpha 3 software You guys rock, very friendly community indeed! Oh, btw: only after I read the FAQ I was sure this is it!
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#265146 - 14/09/2005 06:46
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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Welcome to the BBS, hope you manage to grab a player.
Having a kick ass product is one thing, but the community pushes it into a league of its own.
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#265147 - 14/09/2005 10:27
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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Oh, btw: only after I read the FAQ I was sure this is it!
A thing of beauty isn't it? That was mostly done by tfabris who posted earlier in this thread. Thanks again Tony.
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#265148 - 14/09/2005 12:23
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: JBjorgen]
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Registered: 13/09/2005
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Yes, it turely is. And it is great to see so many peolpe still being interested in this awesome piece of technic!
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#265150 - 14/09/2005 15:52
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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Any chance of doing an FAQ for Asterisk?  My new employer has decidied VOIP is the way to go for their new offices and it looks like they want an IP phone on every desk.
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#265151 - 14/09/2005 16:59
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: andym]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Q: Are IP phones any good? A: No, they really suck, I've tried them. How's that?
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#265152 - 14/09/2005 17:22
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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Perfect!
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#265153 - 14/09/2005 17:52
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: andym]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Yeah. I've never understood VoIP. As a remote access protocol, sure, but for an office? Why bother? There's existing equipment that works better and is cheaper.
Then again, Asterisk is really cheap. How much are the phones these days? Looks like about the same price as PBX phones. And you're not tied into a single vendor. And you can realistically administer it yourself. And you can avoid long-distance or trunk charges to a remote office. And you don't have to have a separate telco line for your voice.
Maybe it does make sense now.
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#265154 - 14/09/2005 21:38
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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For what it's worth, my experience with VOIP phones is limited to my friends who have VOIP phones at their house, through their internet service provider. So the issues like call quality, latency delay, dropped calls, etc., are litely to be different than what would happen with an office-managed VOIP phone.
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#265155 - 15/09/2005 06:54
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 13/09/2005
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I posted a WTB in the sales seciton, so this thread can continue its exchange about VoIP
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#265156 - 15/09/2005 08:15
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Hahahahah. Very good... Yes, threads on this board due tend to, uh, wander a bit. But you will find them very informative, amusing and challenging. I do not think we have missed any topics at one time or another.
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#265157 - 15/09/2005 15:08
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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an office-managed VOIP phone.
We've just had Avaya IP Office installed at our place. It seems to work pretty well.
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#265158 - 15/09/2005 15:23
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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For what it's worth, my experience with VOIP phones is limited to my friends who have VOIP phones at their house, through their internet service provider.
Maybe that's the problem. I don't know why people would get VoIP service from their cable ISP when they can get Vonage (arguably the leader in US residential VoIP) for less.
I have Vonage with the $14.99 plan just because I don't want to give everyone (webstores, creditors, DirecTV, etc.) my cell phone number. Whenever I use the service it's great! It certainly kicks the ass out off paying the local phone company $45 a month for a dial tone with no unmetered minutes or calling features.
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#265159 - 15/09/2005 15:38
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: OpInfo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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Our 3Com NBX system is great quality and extremely reliable. But it runs on Layer 2 (ethernet). We have the IP license and have used it over the net on a VPN with pretty crappy results.
On the other hand, I've had marvelous experience with Skype. In fact, one of these days, I'll probably drop Voicepulse (which I've been pretty pleased with) and just get a skype-in number.
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#265160 - 15/09/2005 15:46
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: robricc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I have one friend with Speakeasy and another with Vonage. The speakeasy friends have the latency problem, and the Vonage friend you can't ever get a fax to go through.
Sorry, I'm sticking with POTS. Never feel like I'm on a walkie-talkie, no problems.
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#265161 - 15/09/2005 16:18
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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old hand
Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 777
Loc: Washington, DC metro
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I'm sticking with POTS for a while, too. I have two small kids; I like 911 to work properly. My brother has voip, and he couldn't call the power company when the power went out...
-jk
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#265162 - 15/09/2005 17:51
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: jmwking]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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I like 911 to work properly. My brother has voip, and he couldn't call the power company when the power went out...
I find they are most useful to people who use their cell phone for almost everything. E911 is mandated by the FCC for all VOIP providers by December. As far as the power outage...smells like case to either have a cell phone or a UPS.
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#265163 - 15/09/2005 18:34
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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the Vonage friend you can't ever get a fax to go through.
Vonage has a specific prefix to be dialled if you want to send faxes. It might cost extra to enable the option.
Also, faxes? Is he living in 1983?
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#265164 - 15/09/2005 19:56
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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Also, faxes? Is he living in 1983?
Faxing is still incredibly mainstream in the business world. Cannot run a biz without it.
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#265165 - 15/09/2005 20:37
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Oh yeah. I forget that faxed signatures are legally binding while otherwise electronically-sent signatures are not.
I'm not really sure how you can differentiate between faxed documents and scanned-and-emailed-and-printed documents. Or, for that matter, faxes that have gone through an email gateway. Or faxes that use the internet as a transmission medium instead of public phones lines. Or ones that are connected to VoIP lines on both ends, never having seen a POTS line, but using POTS technology at both ends.
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#265166 - 15/09/2005 20:44
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: wfaulk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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POTS line = Plain Old Telephone Service. Any hardwired telephone line from the bygone era... I think with the POTS line, you have telephone company records that a dedicated wire connection was established point to point. That might help the legal aspect of things.
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#265167 - 15/09/2005 22:45
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Vonage friend you can't ever get a fax to go through
I could swear I specifically read on the Vonage site that they can not do fax because the specific analog tones don't work over IP. Maybe with the special extension though. When I move to Vonage, I'll keep a POTS line as backup and for fax.
Tony, so does your Vonage friend have bad service? And Rob, did you port a phone number to Vonage, or did they assign you one in your area code? I need Vonage badly but I don't have any experience with it and feel its too risky to move a primary business phone line there.
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#265168 - 15/09/2005 23:19
Re: empeg n00b fell in love with the concept: WTB Mk.2
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Vonage friend you can't ever get a fax to go through
I could swear I specifically read on the Vonage site that they can not do fax because the specific analog tones don't work over IP. Maybe with the special extension though. When I move to Vonage, I'll keep a POTS line as backup and for fax.
You need to order a fax line from Vonage. They set it up differently than voice lines and it works. I have a Vonage line at work used for faxing (as well as a dozen POST lines). The Vonage fax line seems to work well and is included with business accounts (you pay for a business voice line and they will include another line for faxing with a seperate phone number)
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Tony, so does your Vonage friend have bad service? And Rob, did you port a phone number to Vonage, or did they assign you one in your area code? I need Vonage badly but I don't have any experience with it and feel its too risky to move a primary business phone line there.
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Vonage isn't able to port numbers from Frontier (my local phone company) so I got a new number in the area code and prefix of my choice.
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