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Wot the f is going on?

My girlfriend and I are only through about 6 episodes, and we ask that question about every 5 minutes

There's one thing I wish JJ would quit doing in both of his shows: the damn clips at the beginning of episodes. Just launch into it, JJ! He'll choose such specific scenes that it's obvious what's coming up and what he wants to focus on. This isn't high school, you don't have to start with an outline! The show is a lot more entertaining if everything unfolds as you go.

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A whole BUNCH of pent-up questions were answered in an instant.

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Everyone else hear the rumor (supposedly from Matthew Fox) that they're supposed to find additional survivors of the crash? Namely the African American lady's husband and the girl Jack met at the bar in one of the flashbacks from the last episodes last season.

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Namely the African American lady's husband and the girl Jack met at the bar in one of the flashbacks from the last episodes last season.

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Maybe he just got assigned there, or went there, or some such, and makes do with whatever the facility has got.

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...and that bloody song has been going round in my head all day!

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The fact he's got a pair of Dyson washers puts it in the last 5 or so years.

They aren't Dyson washers.



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http://images.google.com/images?q=dyson+washing+machine&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGGL

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I think he's the software developer for Duke Nukem Forever.

OK, THAT was really, really funny!

More on topic, I don't see how this episode was any more confusing than anything else we've seen. I do agree that it's going to be a bummer watching these having to wait for more episodes. We just finished the DVD set last night and managed to catch the re-broadcast of the premire tonight. The DVR is now set and ready for the rest of the season.

Regarding Lost vs. Alias, I think Lost is a better show because it seems better thought out. On the DVD set they talk about the first 6 years or so being planned out already, though clearly a lot of the the interpersonal stuff is being written as they go. If Alias was thought out before hand, it certainly doesn't show. Don't get me wrong, Alias is fun (we've only seen through season 3), but it seems to be kind of seat-of-the-pants writing, were Lost is just one solid, consistent story. In my mind, none of the 1st season episodes stand out as being better or worse than others. It just seems to be a high quality drama that tells an interesting story about people and a mysterious island.

Well, gotta go and catch ep. 2!

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I could have done without the very dry and boring Michael flashbacks in last night's episode. It didn't add anything to the story as a whole nor the episode. It was filler. Dry and dull filler.

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We did not need one second of this series flashbacks to explain nor reinforce Michael's behaviour/emotions/actions in this episode nor how he has developed since landing on the island.

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Locke was saying Jack had to take a leap of faith to press the button. No, that's wasn't the leap of faith. The leap of faith would have been to let the timer run out. They already knew what happened when the button got pressed. It had been done a million times before.

Sure, but what happens when you press the button isn't the question. It's what happens when you don't press the button.

There is a great penalty for pressing the button- you are pressed into a life of psychological torture and dependence on a feeble code being input into a computer. So the question of faith is whether the penalty for pressing the button is worth it. If the world's gonna end, then the penalty is worth it, obviously. If nothing happens (or the place implodes), then it isn't.

Now let's look at it logically. There is NO evidence to support that the world would end if the button weren't pushed. The only thing to support this idea is hearsay by an unreliable witness, who presumably had the same evidence that we do: the video. The video does not tell us what happens, only that we must keep pressing the button.

And what do we know about the island? It was a think tank for exploring various sciences. Psychological exploration certainly seems within the scope of what they would have been doing on the island. Global extension- doesn't seem near as likely.

The evidence points toward the button pushing being a psychological experiment, not a global catastrophy. From that perspective, I would say it is Locke who is acting on faith. Or at least more faith. Jack's position seems to be backed by some faith and a lot of logic. Of course it IS a TV show and it seems the writers are determined to get Jack some faith, but that's beside the point!

I understand your point that they know what happens when they push the button, so it isn't a lack of faith. However, they'd only ever do so if they believed (by faith) that the consequences were drastic enough.

Truth be told, I might have pushed the button the first time, just to buy some time for investigation. But I sure wouldn't stick around and enlave my life to it.

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There is NO evidence to support that the world would end if the button weren't pushed. ... And what do we know about the island? It was a think tank for exploring various sciences. Psychological exploration certainly seems within the scope of what they would have been doing on the island. Global extension- doesn't seem near as likely.

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The first is the massive magnetic field in the bunker. We saw Jack's gun-locker key get affected by it, and Desmond says he can feel it in his fillings

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There are several pieces of evidence that point towards at least something other than just a psychological experiment.

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Sounds to me like he's saying "Press the button. No button's bad."

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Sounds to me like he's saying "Press the button. No button's bad."

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head just about exploded when they showed Jin speaking english for next week's episode.

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I'm still not convinced that backward recording is real. I have the episode on my PVR, but I don't have the patience to extract the audio and reverse it to verify. Has anyone (credible) verified this already?

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If anyone should find this message, please get word I'm alive and stranded on an island somewhere in the South Pacific. Please send help soon. Things are bad. And they're getting worse...

Sally


I survived a horrific plane crash and am stranded on an island somewhere Northeast of Australia and Southwest of Hawaii. In the event that I am never found, please forward word of my fate to my parents.

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