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#274849 - 25/07/2006 01:21 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: tfabris]
djdrock
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 86
I have still been getting the random No Hard Drive found error, so tonight I took my unit apart again, and when plugging it in it came on fine. Then when I rebooted it just after moving the drive/cable back a little bit, it would not boot. I repeated this about 8 times. There seems to be no evidence of a bad IDE header, so I am ordering a new cable. It looks like it has seen better days.
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#274850 - 25/07/2006 10:15 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: djdrock]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Quote:
. There seems to be no evidence of a bad IDE header


Eh? What you just described are classic bad header symptoms! Of course it *could* be just the cable, but I think that's a lot more rare than the header issue. In the early days we always assumed it was the cable (especially since the red-striped cables did have some assembly issues), back before the IDE header problem was characterized and understood.

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#274851 - 25/07/2006 20:45 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: mlord]
djdrock
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 86
I do have one of the red striped cables, and from what I can see, the header looks fine...no evidence of any broken sodder points. Is there anything under the header that I might no see that could be the culprit?
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#274852 - 25/07/2006 21:18 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: djdrock]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Is there anything under the header that I might no see that could be the culprit?


Not really. However, dry solder joints on the header can sometimes be tricky to see without magnification. If the replacememnt cable you've ordered doesn't solve the problem, then see if sending the player into Stu or Rob is an option.

Reading back over the thread, I noted two things:

1. You never said whether or not you tried hand-crimping the cable as illustrated.

2. You said you tore off the top half of one of the connectors at one point during disassembly. This would definitely tend to make the cable iffy.

These two factors indicate that you're probably on the right track with getting a replacement cable as a first step.
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#274853 - 26/07/2006 12:43 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: tfabris]
djdrock
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 86
I did try to recrimp it, but the top of the cable is pretty shot! I even added a little glue to keep it on there, but it is still fragile.

I will go with the cable first, and then have a look at the header for further troubleshooting if necessary.

Thanks again for all of your help.
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#274854 - 08/08/2006 14:43 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: djdrock]
djdrock
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 86
The new cable did the trick.
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#274855 - 08/08/2006 18:24 Re: Failed hard drive, no serial port on PC...advice needed [Re: djdrock]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Excellent!
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