I'm under the impression that the new drive IS BAD do you agree?

Got to leave for an hour. I might be picking up a drive since this one might be going back to TigerDirect.

Greetings!

Sorry for the delay. Like I said, I was away from the computer last evening.

Yes, I agree that the 40GB drive seems to be toast. It might be worthwhile to try it in another player, but even then I am not sure I would trust it. If you can replace it, great!

OK, I don't have a laptop computer to try that in can smartctl be done in the Rio if it won't boot properly?

I suppose I could get one of those adapters so I could use it in my PC WinXP.

Well the new drive I bought last nite has just been successfully, manually partitioned, now on to formatting the disk.

Well succes on partitioning & formatting the new new drive not the old new drive, Emplode shows a total of 67G now. I used the Rio instead of the Empeg since the display fuse I soldered had a cold joint & needs resoldering. Thanks a lot Paul for the step by step help I know it must've been frustrating trying to help someone who doesn't really understand whats behind the steps needed but can follow them.
Now I do have one more ?
I noticed on a post/FAQ? somewhere that you can't swap drives back & forth from a Empeg to a Rio. Is this still true or is there a work around? For my original plan was to put the new drive in the Empeg. If I was to fill this drive w/music/playlists in the Rio could I have the same music/playlists in the Empeg when the drive is switched over or would I have to just get a new drive for the Empeg as well?

You can swap them around without problem, with the exception that if you have some massive number of extra programs running on the IIa (RioCar), you might not get them all to run on the II (empeg), due to the lesser amount of memory.

to clarify further, you cannot swap drives between an Empeg Mk1 and an Empeg Mk2 or RioCar (Mk2a) without rebuilding them. But as Bitt noted, between an Mk2 and an Mk2a is fine.

Excellent, I only have two programs on it, that I run w/any regularity. Emphatic & tts clock which I guess the latter only runs when booting. I also have Empire but haven't used it a lot.
I plan on checking the apparently dead drives to see if they are indeed dead.
Can anyone tell me if smartctl can be run on a dead drive or does it still have to have some life in it? I had run it on the suspected old drive previous to the drive swap fiasco & it did show some errors. So I didn't check it any further, but the playlists did continue to work & show up. As far as the new drive that's apparently dead also, I don't even think it runs at all to be able to check it.

smartctl won't be allowed (by Linux) to even attempt to talk to the drive unless the Linux IDE driver sees (successfully probes for) the drive at boot time.

cheers

Given that, it is unlikely to work on that 40GB drive. I am glad you were able to get it running though!!!

I am just sooooooo happy that my new HDD install and copy went flawless!!!!

sorry to hear about all ur problems

Ed

p.s. ...paul...loading up well!

Paul, this is a spot on question set. Well said. This is what should be asked when the only real advice is re-format and start from scratch.

Hardware OK, drive not formatted.

No, it has no effect. Don't get diverted off track.

This is not a complete boot log.

Again, an incomplete boot log.

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This can work, in theory.

No, it won't work. You *have* to hard jumper the drives, and not rely on CS functionality - it's not supported in the host.

As a followup to this thread the NEW 40G Hitachi Travelstar drive was found to be defective it wouldn't even show up for the Drive Fitness Test. Hitachi sent a new one back to me & will soon be installed.
The old drive it was replacing is showing errors using smartctl but amazingly still works so I'll keep it til it dies.
Thanks to all for the help w/this, great board but I knew that coming in.

I never even considered using Cable Select at that time, I knew it wasn't an option.