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#279301 - 09/04/2006 13:01 Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive
RandallFarr
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Registered: 12/03/2002
Posts: 33
I'd finally convinced my father, somewhat of a technophobe, to sit at my mom's computer for a few minutes and give iPhoto a try to print some pictures. We got as far as the part where you press the "Print" button on the screen... then the drive started that dreaded and oh so familiar 'click click click' sound. I'm afraid that my poor dad is now scared for life and is convinced that he is solely responsible for "jinxing" the computer.

I put a new hard drive in the iMac and had it up and running again in a short time, sans three years of data (mp3's, documents, photos)- no back up.

My mother would like to try to recover the data, but if it's not recoverable, she will live. We're considering using a recovery service, which will likely incur fees of $600+.

The other thing that comes to mind is buying the identical drive and either replace the failed part(s), or transferring the platters from the failed drive to the good drive. I expect that I'll get responses telling me that I'd be crazy to try it, I know. I guess one of my questions is, aside from using a clean room, what else is it that the data recovery services do aside from what I've described? Has anyone ever attempted what I'm describing? Does anyone have any advice for me if I do decide to play the part of mad scientist?

If I decide to go the safer/more expensive route, got any recommendations?

Cheers,
-Randy

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#279302 - 09/04/2006 13:08 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: RandallFarr]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
What is the make / model / capacity of the drive? Some people here have had luck buying another (identical) drive and swapping the logic board.
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#279303 - 09/04/2006 13:51 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: RandallFarr]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
The click click click sound is usually the drive being unable to read clusters that it's looking for. In that case, you're better off installing a new drive and using some sort of data recovery tool.

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#279304 - 09/04/2006 21:18 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: RandallFarr]
The Central Guy
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Registered: 18/03/2002
Posts: 225
Loc: San Diego, California USA
I've heard a few stories of folks putting the 'bad' drive in the freezer for awhile. Then they are able to retrieve the data when the drive is cold...I haven't tried this method myself, but I've read about it several times...It might be worth a try....

Randy
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#279305 - 09/04/2006 21:48 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: RandallFarr]
time
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Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
If it were/is just data, I've heard many good things about Spinrite ($89USD) from Steve Gibson's GRC.COM* but since it sounds like it may be more.... Comments on GRC indicate if you can get the drive to spin up, there's every likelyhood data can be recovered. It is OS agnostic so that's a plus.

Good luck,
Tim

* i've not used it myself...so my endorsement probably doesn't count for much.

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#279306 - 09/04/2006 21:49 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: The Central Guy]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Put the drive in a sealed bag first so you don't get condensation on it. I've never tried this method either.

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#279307 - 09/04/2006 22:01 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: The Central Guy]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Quote:
I've heard a few stories of folks putting the 'bad' drive in the freezer for awhile. Then they are able to retrieve the data when the drive is cold...I haven't tried this method myself, but I've read about it several times...It might be worth a try....



A friend had a problem with a drive clicking repeatedly and not being recognised. He put it in the freezer for 24hrs+ and it worked easily long enough to copy off all his data.

edit: It was a last resort though, everything else had been tried short of hardware fiddling, eg. swapping controller boards. I believe he was running the drive in an open case and not bolted to the chassis, so overheating was my guess.

Gareth

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#279308 - 10/04/2006 02:26 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: RandallFarr]
Attack
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Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 598
Loc: Florida
I've done the PCB hard drive swap many times now. It was very simple. Find a working drive with the same model number. Mark the drive and PCS that is good with tape or something. Then remove the PCB from both drives. But the good PCB on the bad drive. Put the drive in the computer and backup the data.

The tape is to help remember what parts when to what drive.
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#279309 - 10/04/2006 07:49 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: tman]
tahir
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Registered: 27/02/2004
Posts: 1900
Loc: London
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Put the drive in a sealed bag first so you don't get condensation on it. I've never tried this method either.


But condensation will form on the cold drive once re-installed won't it?

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#279310 - 10/04/2006 19:35 Re: Dead hard drive, data recovery, and rebuilding a drive [Re: RandallFarr]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Well, I have had good results from "Whacking" the drive with a good hard thump to the side of the case with the hand during start up.

This can help overcome the "stiction" of the head solenoid and mechanics if it is not pulling in.

I'm not joking: I have managed to get a disk running like this, and pulled everything off it (thank the respective Deity). However, it's very much a one-time thing.

Another good one: stick the drive in the fridge, chill it down, then bring it out cold and put it in the machine again. Let it warm up to room temp for an hour, try again.

Otherwise, buy another of the same model, swap the controller board: this will let you know if the problem was the controller. Sometimes the drive electronics become unable to source enough current due to subtle damage, and a new board replaces the old one to good effect. It's finding the drive that's the problem.

Of course, you are knackered if it's a mechanical problem.
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