#281653 - 18/05/2006 17:08
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: Flawed]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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I don't think it's Hijack's fault. Hijack just displays the error message now, when it didn't before. I just point that out because several folks have blamed their segfault issues on Hijack, and it's not...I'd hate for Mark to think everyone was blaming his software for the various empeg issues. Quote:
and flashed back to the standard bios
Does this mean you replaced just the kernel, or completely reloaded the software? If the software, what version?
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#281655 - 18/05/2006 17:19
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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What software version is on your player? Are you synching via Ethernet or USB? Are you using Emplode or JEmplode?
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#281656 - 18/05/2006 17:20
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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Nevermind on the software version...I see that you said 2.0 final.
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#281658 - 18/05/2006 19:08
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: Flawed]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14515
Loc: Canada
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Hey, whatever works.
When Hijack is used, there is (slightly) less memory than usual for the player software, and on a big download I suppose there is a miniscule chance that this might make a (bad) difference.
If your downloads work with the regular kernel, then do them that way, and put Hijack on afterwards.
Cheers
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#281659 - 18/05/2006 19:27
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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Dear me, you couldn't have done it any worse if you'd tried.
I would read Roger's page on building drives over 60G. Install V2 Final Developer on it (not 2.10). Install one drive, as master, do the build manually. Remove it and install the second drive as master, do the build manually again.
Jumper the second drive as slave and install the drives on the cable and sled.
Install your music on the disc using emplode.
If you have more than about 60-70% fill of the disk, run the fids apps to do the sort, but READ THE FAQ FIRST.
Then you can consider doing things like upgrade the kernel to HiJack.
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#281660 - 18/05/2006 21:02
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: schofiel]
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Registered: 15/02/2002
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Dear me, you couldn't have done it any worse if you'd tried.
What? Tried to fix things or piss Mark off? 
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I would read Roger's page on building drives over 60G. Install V2 Final Developer on it (not 2.10). Install one drive, as master, do the build manually. Remove it and install the second drive as master, do the build manually again.
I did this without the manul build. I just used the 2 final builder image and obviously did them one at a time with each as master. Just ran the build twice on each drive. After the builds, there seemed to be music left on one or both but I was able to sync and deleted everything that was there with emplode.
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Jumper the second drive as slave and install the drives on the cable and sled.
Did that.
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Install your music on the disc using emplode.
Working on that. It goes slow...
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If you have more than about 60-70% fill of the disk, run the fids apps to do the sort, but READ THE FAQ FIRST.
Can't find fidsift in the FAQ... I read some threads on it.
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Then you can consider doing things like upgrade the kernel to HiJack.
I'll do that last I guess.
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#281661 - 18/05/2006 21:06
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: mlord]
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stranger
Registered: 15/02/2002
Posts: 53
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Hey, whatever works.
When Hijack is used, there is (slightly) less memory than usual for the player software, and on a big download I suppose there is a miniscule chance that this might make a (bad) difference.
If your downloads work with the regular kernel, then do them that way, and put Hijack on afterwards.
Cheers
What do you consider large?
At what point should I run that set_empeg_max_fid.v7?
I was at about 75% full when I started having problems a few weeks ago. Segfaults when syncing.
Would running jemplode make any difference?
Flashing isn't a huge deal so if there's no work around, that's fine.
I won't be adding music much after I get it filled up.
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#281662 - 18/05/2006 21:08
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5688
Loc: London, UK
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...Roger's page on building drives over 60G
Here: partitioning and formatting.
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#281663 - 18/05/2006 21:34
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: Flawed]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14515
Loc: Canada
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I cannot really give any advice whatsoever on using Emplode or JEmplode, as I use neither.
Cheers
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#281665 - 18/05/2006 21:50
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14515
Loc: Canada
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How do you transfer your music then? FTP? Can you provide any details about that?
I use my clumsy empsync script (Linux) to bulk transfer and sync the player, and then manually trigger a rebuild of the DB afterwards.
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#281667 - 18/05/2006 22:13
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5552
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
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So what would you consider too large of a sync to do with emplode?
I have run synchs as large as 50+ GB without problems. Don't know what the upper limit (if any) might be.
tanstaafl.
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#281668 - 19/05/2006 08:04
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: tanstaafl.]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Wow. Sorry I did not catch this thread earlier, but I was working last night...
There is a very specific bug that you only encounter when you are doing a fresh install of MASSIVE amounts of playlists. I have only encountered it when wiping out large hard drives and syncing tons of music to the player at once, usually when I rebuild the player from scracth the first time after migrating to a new hard drive capacity.
This is a player / sync bug, not a hijack bug.
During the sync, there appears to be a fixed maximum for the number of playlists (not fids, not tunes) that can be sent to the player at any time. It is almost as if there is a fixed memory space allocation for the number of playlists that can be loaded during any one sync session. The only way I have gotten around it was to pre-upload the playlists in small batches. Once the playlists were there, I could upload over 100GB of music at a time.
The symptoms you see with this is that emplode will crash hard in the middle of the sync while uploading a playlist, and the empeg will lock up. I do not remember any hijack or kernel errors on the player, but it was a while since I did this.
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#281669 - 19/05/2006 10:35
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14515
Loc: Canada
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I do not remember any hijack or kernel errors on the player, but it was a while since I did this.
Hijack's front-panel error reporting is a relatively new feature, instigated after your last round of drive upgrades, so you would not have seen it then.
Cheers
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#281670 - 19/05/2006 10:55
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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True. The last time I did this was when the 100s first came out, so it was certainly a while ago. To be honest, I do not even remember if I loaded hijack as soon as the drives went online, or waited until the content was fully populated before loading it. I have been resisting (with some difficulty) the desire to upgrade "just for the sake of upgrading" to dual 160s... 
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#281672 - 20/05/2006 01:41
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14515
Loc: Canada
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So I'm attempting to do the manual build. have everything partitioned and formatted but I'm now trying to mount it and can't.
When I type "mount -n /dev/hda4 /drive1" it returns the message "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
I have only one HD hooked up at this point and it's master, thus the hda4 instead the hdc4.
HEPL???
mount -n /dev/hda4 /drive1 -t ext2
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#281673 - 20/05/2006 05:33
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5688
Loc: London, UK
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mount -n /dev/hda4 /drive1 -t ext2
1. I wonder if that should be necessary? Something else wrong, maybe?
2. /dev/hda4 should be mounted at /drive0.
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#281674 - 22/05/2006 13:37
Re: Hijack causing empeg to segfault when syncing. Uggghhhh.
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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In my experience, that usually means that there's no filesystem there, not that you need to specify the filesystem.
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