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#286130 - 28/08/2006 23:18 Help!! can't upload any more files
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	Hi, i just decided to dust off my Empeg/Rio Car after like a year of no use.. This is my setup.. Rio Car MK2 , 20GB + 10GB drives 6GB used 21GB Free , about 1600 files on the player V2.01 Final , Hijack 4.61 I started uploading file, which was going fine but it seemed to reach a limit and now everything i try to upload i get the following error.. " *.mp3 could not be synchronized, error 0xc0041005" and error 0xc004101e error on the next mp3 file, and so on.. If i delete a file, then try to add the file that failed before, it works fine.. so it appears to be reaching some limit, but what i have no idea. At first i thought it was the FID limit, but i only have like 1600 songs on my player. could that really be it? Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
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#286131 - 29/08/2006 01:23 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	Here is my boot up output.. empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected])dev 03:44 blksize=1024 blocknr=18661378 sector=3732 If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,inode bitmap -ou EXT2-fs error (devi attempt to access beyond end of deviceot or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!80read inode bitmap -IT block_group = 227 dev 03:44 blksize=1024 blocknr e000 v1.04ctor=38305 Copying kernel...t=1empt to access Calling linux kernel...04-0, 19077MB w/1806kB Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerneode bitmap -44 dev 03:44 blksize=1024 blocknr=18669570 sector=37339140 size=1024 l.un Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v461 ([email protected]) (gcc version2-fs error (devi attempt to access beyond end of deviceot read inode bitmap -10 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Thu Jun 8 15:00:28 EDT 2006ad inode bitmap -2-f block_group = 227 03:44: rw=0, want=19169283, Command line: mem=16mss Ctrl-A to enter pu Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS=19169282 sector=38338564 size=1024 count Memory: 15008k/16M available (988k code, 20k reserved, 364k data, 4k init) EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,68)): read_inode_bitmap: Cannot read inode b Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k) beyond end of deviceot read inode bitm bloc Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) read inode bitmap -2-f bloc attempt to access beyon IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP7474_inode_bitmap: Cannot re TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)evice bloc 03:44: rw IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)ize=1024 count=1itm 03:44 dev 03:44 blksize=102 Starting kswapd v 1.5tor=38371332 size=102 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled inode bitmap -ou EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,68)): read_inode_ ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART23, inode_bitmap = 18210818_bitmap: Cannot read ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UARmap = 19 empeg dsp initialised block_group = 2343, empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0 bloc attempt to access beyond en empeg remote control/panel button initialised.tm 03:44: rw=0, want=19202051, limit=973728072 empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012ev 03:44 blksize=1024 blocknr=19202050 s empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005e80).cess beyond end of deviceot read inode bitm EXT2-fs error (de empeg RDS driver initialisedbitmap: Cannot read inode bi empeg power-pic driver initialised ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80tmap = 18718722_bitmap: Cannot read ino ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80e ide0(3,68)): read_inode_bitmap: Canno ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x558026915, limit=9737280ice P ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff8045, inode_bitmap = 19210242or=37453828 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 to access beyond end of deviceor=34537 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80=0, want=19218435, limit=9737280 read i ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x55803:44 blksize=1024 blocknr=19218434 sect ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80e_bitmap = 18726914_bitmap: Cannot read ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80nd of deviceot read inode bitmap -1024 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80limit=9737280read inode bitmap - bl ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0xff80locknr=19226626 sector=38453252 size=10 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff7fevice: rw=0, want=16785411, limit=973 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffffread_inode_bitmap: Cannot read inode bi ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaaaa18743298 sector=37486596 size=1024 coun ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5555p = 1922662680 read inode bitmap -ou EX hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK driveond end of deviceot read inode bitmap hdb: IC25N020ATDA04-0, ATA DISK drive234819, limit=9737280read inode bitma ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 b smc chip id/revision 0x3349map = 19234818_bitmap: Cann smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected]) end of deviceocknr=18268162 sector=36536324 s bloc 03 SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:10:eev 03:44 blksize=1024 blocknr=19243010 sector=38486020 size=1024 count=1itm 03:4 7 Partition check:83, limit=973728 Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 Mounting second music partition Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply... Starting player Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia Hijack: intercepting config.ini hijack: removed menu entry: "Hard Disk Detection" hijack: removed menu entry: "Serial Port Assignment" khttpd: listening on port 80 kftpd: listening on port 21 player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06. Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004 Vcb: 0x4086d000 I also get this error when running fsck.. empeg:/empeg/bin# fsck -fay /dev/hdc4 Parallelizing fsck version 1.19 (13-Jul-2000) e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/ hdc4 is mounted. The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 19451880 blocks The physical size of the device is 9737280 blocks Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! Edited by booey (29/08/2006 01:30)
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#286132 - 29/08/2006 07:49 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
pgrzelak carpal tunnel Registered: 15/08/2000 Posts: 4859 Loc: New Jersey, USA	Greetings! Your boot log is a bit scrambled. You probably are using cut and paste from hyperterm. You are better off capturing the results to a file and then cutting / pasting. It is much clearer. I suspect that the hard drive cable may have loosened from the header, a hard drive jumper fell off (if using the regular / too large desktop drive jumpers), that the cable might be bad or that there is corruption on the hard drives. Please see this FAQ entry for some of the more common troubleshooting steps. _________________________ *Paul Grzelak* 200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs
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#286133 - 29/08/2006 09:50 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	Quote: At first i thought it was the FID limit, but i only have like 1600 songs on my player. could that really be it? Definitely not it. Quote: If i delete a file, then try to add the file that failed before, it works fine.. so it appears to be reaching some limit, but what i have no idea. It's removing the file from the "good" hard disk, thus leaving space for the new song on the same good disk. As soon as that's in place, then it tries to place the next file on the "bad" hard disk, and then fails. See here for a description of why. As was previously stated... From the looks of your boot log (by the way, click here to find out how to produce a non-scrambled boot log, as was previously stated, hyperterminal has a clipboard bug and you should do a capture text instead), you've got problems with one of the disk drives. It's either the cable, the jumper, the IDE header, or the drive itself. Follow that link in the prior post and carefully go through each part of it. After you solve the disk drive trouble, you might need to do a FSCK and a manual database rebuild. _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#286134 - 29/08/2006 10:53 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: tfabris]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	ok, thanks for the help guys.. one question tho, Emplode does show my full capacity of both drives , and Hijack is showing both 20+10GB drives in its Vital signs so i didnt think it was a loose cable or jumper. Would Emplode still report the 30GB capacity, and hijack show both drives if it was a bad physical drive or connection? ok, here is a capture of the hyperterm session, and empeg boot. sorry about the previous one!!! empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected]) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux! e000 v1.04 Copying kernel... Calling linux kernel... Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v461 ([email protected]) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Thu Jun 8 15:00:28 EDT 2006 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11 Checking for extra DRAM: c1000000: wrote ffffffff, read e28cc001 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp. empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40104327) 16MB DRAM Command line: mem=16m Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 15008k/16M available (988k code, 20k reserved, 364k data, 4k init) Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k) Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384) IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli) Starting kswapd v 1.5 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART Signature is 20706d65 'emp ' Found custom animation at offset 0x9bb34 Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1 empeg display initialised. empeg dsp audio initialised empeg dsp mixer initialised empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0 empeg remote control/panel button initialised. empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012 empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004200). empeg RDS driver initialised empeg power-pic driver initialised RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size empeg single channel IDE Probing primary interface... ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 hdb: IC25N020ATDA04-0, ATA DISK drive ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xffff ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffff ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaaaa ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5555 hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive hdb: IC25N020ATDA04-0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, 9590MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63 hdb: IC25N020ATDA04-0, 19077MB w/1806kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63 empeg-flash driver initialized smc chip id/revision 0x3349 smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected]) SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:10:e7 Partition check: hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4 hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... \|/-\\|/-\\|/-\\|/-\\|/-\done. EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 Mounting second music partition Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply... Starting player Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia Hijack: intercepting config.ini hijack: removed menu entry: "Hard Disk Detection" hijack: removed menu entry: "Serial Port Assignment" khttpd: listening on port 80 kftpd: listening on port 21 player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06. Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004 Vcb: 0x4086d000 empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected]) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux! e000 v1.04 Copying kernel... Calling linux kernel... Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v461 ([email protected]) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Thu Jun 8 15:00:28 EDT 2006 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11 Checking for extra DRAM: c1000000: wrote ffffffff, read e28cc001 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp. empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40104327) 16MB DRAM Command line: mem=16m Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 15008k/16M available (988k code, 20k reserved, 364k data, 4k init) Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k) Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384) IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli) Starting kswapd v 1.5 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART Signature is 20706d65 'emp ' Found custom animation at offset 0x9bb34 Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1 empeg display initialised. empeg dsp audio initialised empeg dsp mixer initialised empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0 empeg remote control/panel button initialised. empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012 empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004280). empeg RDS driver initialised empeg power-pic driver initialised RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size empeg single channel IDE Probing primary interface... ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80 ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xffff ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffff ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaaaa ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5555 hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, ATA DISK drive hdb: IC25N020ATDA04-0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 hda: FUJITSU MHM2100AT, 9590MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63 hdb: IC25N020ATDA04-0, 19077MB w/1806kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63 empeg-flash driver initialized smc chip id/revision 0x3349 smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected]) SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:10:e7 Partition check: hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4 hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... \|/-\\|/-\\|/-\\|/-\\|/-\done. EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump... VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 Mounting second music partition Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply... Starting player Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia Hijack: intercepting config.ini hijack: removed menu entry: "Hard Disk Detection" hijack: removed menu entry: "Serial Port Assignment" khttpd: listening on port 80 kftpd: listening on port 21 Edited by booey (29/08/2006 11:00)
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#286135 - 29/08/2006 11:11 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
pgrzelak carpal tunnel Registered: 15/08/2000 Posts: 4859 Loc: New Jersey, USA	Greetings! It is possible for it to read correctly at boot, especially if it is a loose connection or intermittent problem. It looks like both drives were found without any problem, so it might be a connection problem or just a bad database / data issues. Try doing the manual FSCK and database rebuild mentioned above. It might be worthwhile to capture the results of these as well, and post them here if anything looks strange. _________________________ *Paul Grzelak* 200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs
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#286136 - 29/08/2006 11:42 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: pgrzelak]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	I did do the the manual FSCK and database rebuild , but encountered errors. i'll re-run them and capture the output this time.. One other details i forgot to mention is i'm using my IBM thinkpad laptop power supply. Its similarly rated. I was thinking maybe it wasnt spinning up both drives, but i'm not sure.
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#286137 - 29/08/2006 11:47 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: pgrzelak]
AndrewT old hand Registered: 16/02/2002 Posts: 867 Loc: Oxford, UK	ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80 ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580 On the IDE test, the values read back differ to what was written. Doesn't this suggest a faulty IDE cable or dry joint problems with the header?
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#286138 - 29/08/2006 12:21 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: AndrewT]
pgrzelak carpal tunnel Registered: 15/08/2000 Posts: 4859 Loc: New Jersey, USA	True. And there was the read beyond the end of the device in the original logs too. The bootlog was clean, though. Since the fsck is not, hardware errors could still be there with the cabling. Edit: Before doing anything else, double check the physical connectors as described in the FAQ entries listed above. Either a header may be loose, a connector may not be crimped or there may be other damage. Edited by pgrzelak (29/08/2006 12:23) _________________________ *Paul Grzelak* 200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs
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#286139 - 29/08/2006 15:21 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	Quote: Would Emplode still report the 30GB capacity, and hijack show both drives if it was a bad physical drive or connection? Yes, if the bad physical connection was a partial one, for example, the IDE header had only certain pins lifted, exactly as in the photos in that link we keep telling you to follow and which you haven't yet said you've actually tried to do anything it suggests. Anyway, those IDE Data Test errors indicate that there is a partial bad connection to the drive. Either cable problems or IDE header problems. I'm sure the actual values written and read could tell us which IDE header pins are lifted (or which corresponding lines on the IDE cable are having a bad connection). Fix the physical problem first before trying FSCKs. That utility is only useful if there's nothing physical wrong with the drive, and in fact might even be damaging if there is a partial data connection problem as we suspect. _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#286140 - 29/08/2006 15:33 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: pgrzelak]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	Well , it looks like i found the problem or just created a major one , and its not good. i think my Empeg is dead forever now When removing the Hard drive ribbon cable to the board, the last pin just fell right off. i'm assuming it was already loose, because i was careful with it.. i'm not good at soldering very small things like this. Is my Empeg dead forever now? A pic of it attached.. Attachments 286684-brokenpin.JPG (148 downloads) Edited by booey (29/08/2006 15:34)
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#286141 - 29/08/2006 15:40 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
JBjorgen carpal tunnel Registered: 19/01/2002 Posts: 3584 Loc: Columbus, OH	You'll need a whole new header soldered on. That header looks really bad...like it was subjected to high amounts of heat or some pretty serious twisting force. I'd imagine that Stu at Eutronix could solder a new header on pretty easily, but I don't know if there's some other issue that caused your header to melt or break. _________________________ ~ John
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#286142 - 29/08/2006 15:42 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: JBjorgen]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	My guess would be that someone tried to fix it already and ended up melting the header plastic instead of reflowing the solder. Should be easy enough to fix by someone who can solder, and it'll probably fix your entire problem. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#286143 - 29/08/2006 15:49 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: wfaulk]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	well, im guessing it was just the heat of the car down here in flordia. I bought it brand new, and its never been repaired. I usually keep it under my seat, and its got to be over 100 degrees in the car most days down here. If i can get this fixed by someone, you can be sure its not going back under the seat anymore! When looking with the naked eye, it does not look that bad really, but that zoomed in pic with a 3.2megpixel camera really shows microscopic details!!.. i cant believe how bad it looked in the pic. you guys have any ideas on what course of action i should take? I really appreciate all the help. Edited by booey (29/08/2006 15:50)
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#286144 - 29/08/2006 16:32 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
JBjorgen carpal tunnel Registered: 19/01/2002 Posts: 3584 Loc: Columbus, OH	Quote: you guys have any ideas on what course of action i should take? Eutronix _________________________ ~ John
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#286145 - 29/08/2006 17:37 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	After Stu fixes it for you, don't leave it in the car any more. _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#286146 - 29/08/2006 23:15 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
mlord carpal tunnel Registered: 29/08/2000 Posts: 14493 Loc: Canada	The missing pin can be reattached if you still have it. Otherwise.. a new header, or a new pin from a new header (safer!). Cheers
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#286147 - 29/08/2006 23:21 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
tanstaafl. carpal tunnel Registered: 08/07/1999 Posts: 5549 Loc: Ajijic, Mexico	Quote: well, im guessing it was just the heat of the car down here in flordia. I bought it brand new, and its never been repaired. I usually keep it under my seat, and its got to be over 100 degrees in the car most days down here. Before the inside of your car got hot enough to melt the solder on the empeg's mainboard, the upholstery would probably have caught fire and the car would have burned to the ground. Figure 350-400 degrees F to melt it, I think. tanstaafl. _________________________ "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"
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#286148 - 30/08/2006 01:15 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: tanstaafl.]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	Yeah, but the plastic retainer could have deformed at a much lower temperature than that, and if it was the only thing holding the pin down to begin with.... _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#286149 - 30/08/2006 04:12 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	Yeah, Doug, I don't think anyone was suggesting the heat melted the solder, only warped the plastic connector pieces on the IDE header assembly, thus eventually contributing to the failure of the header (probably from flexing due to the cable being tugged by drive tray movement over a long period of time). _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#286150 - 30/08/2006 16:30 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: JBjorgen]
Robotic pooh-bah Registered: 06/04/2005 Posts: 2026 Loc: Seattle transplant	Quote: Quote: you guys have any ideas on what course of action i should take? Eutronix Is this a good instance where the longer Eutronix drive ribbon cable should be fitted? (aside from the header repair, that is) All you guys are just freakin' AWESOME! I just wanted to say that. _________________________ 10101311 (20GB- backup empeg) 10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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#286151 - 30/08/2006 19:55 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: Robotic]
tfabris carpal tunnel Registered: 20/12/1999 Posts: 31597 Loc: Seattle, WA	Yes. _________________________ Tony Fabris
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#286152 - 31/08/2006 15:18 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: tfabris]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	Thanks guys for all the help! I'm going to ship it to Eutronix, Stu is out of town for a week or so, so gonna ship it to him next week sometime. I'm thinking I should also have him use all new cables too? just to be safe. I havent used my empeg much over the last year, but man... now that its dead, i realize how great it is! Once its revived from the dead, its definitely going back in its Empeg case!!
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#286153 - 31/08/2006 15:33 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: mlord]
booey member Registered: 31/12/2001 Posts: 113	Quote: The missing pin can be reattached if you still have it. Otherwise.. a new header, or a new pin from a new header (safer!). Cheers I do still have the pin, it would need to be soldered on right?
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#286154 - 31/08/2006 17:54 Re: Help!! can't upload any more files [Re: booey]
mlord carpal tunnel Registered: 29/08/2000 Posts: 14493 Loc: Canada	Quote: I do still have the pin, it would need to be soldered on right? Right. But very carefully, by somebody with good previous experience doing SMT (surface mount tech.) soldering. It is very easy to destroy the copper pads on the main PCB by overheating.. And the new pin will need some extra support (epoxy, perhaps) after it has been reconnected. cheers
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