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#293091 - 26/01/2007 22:58 Re: Syncing problems [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Hmm, I was guiding him through the build process via email and linked to the final version, but forgot to check if he actually used it. Hope that does it! I built these drive originally though and used all the correct stuff and it still broke.

Stu
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#293092 - 29/01/2007 03:42 Re: Syncing problems [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12324
Loc: Sterling, VA
Well, now I'm having other problems. I ran the disk builder and it's not really working. I'm worried that I'm getting hard disk errors. But I'm going to try more tomorrow (Monday) and see if I have more luck. By the way, I keep seeing warnings and errors all through the hyperterminal logs. Are these normal? Here's something from the beginning of the disk builder log file, right after I hit enter when it tells me the drives are already built:

Code:
warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
Setting up swapspace version 0, size = 24670208 bytes
Warning: insecure permissions 0644, 0600 suggested
Adding Swap: 24092k swap-space (priority -1)
Making first drive...
mke2fs 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hda4 is mounted.
Linux ext2 filesystem format
Filesystem label=
1220224 inodes, 156183930 blocks
0 blocks (0.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
19066 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
64 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729, 204801, 221185, 401409, 663553,
1024001, 1990657, 2809857, 5120001, 5971969, 17915905, 19668993,
25600001, 53747713, 128000001, 137682945,

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#293093 - 29/01/2007 15:40 Re: Syncing problems [Re: Dignan]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14488
Loc: Canada
warnings and errors:

errors are BAD, warnings are not usually bad unless there are also errors.

Any errors to show us?


Edited by mlord (29/01/2007 15:40)

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#293094 - 29/01/2007 16:59 Re: Syncing problems [Re: mlord]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12324
Loc: Sterling, VA
Quote:
warnings and errors:

errors are BAD, warnings are not usually bad unless there are also errors.

Any errors to show us?

Not yet

I'm now starting to sync after running the builder and installing 2.01 for large disks. I'll let you know if I pass my 3GB barrier.
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#293095 - 29/01/2007 20:23 Re: Syncing problems [Re: mlord]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12324
Loc: Sterling, VA
It appears as though things are going OK. I'm cautiously optimistic. At the moment I've loaded about 5GB onto the player, which is about double what I was able to do before.

One concern, however, is that it is running the full integrity check on every sync. I read that there are various causes for this, though, so is there a particular cause that might be attributed to my player?
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#293096 - 29/01/2007 22:02 Re: Syncing problems [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31584
Loc: Seattle, WA
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it is running the full integrity check on every sync.


A full integrity check with a 160gb drive would take at least an hour to complete, above and beyond the synch time and the database rebuild time. Is that really what it's doing?

It shouldn't do that anyway on a freshly-built drive. The only reason it should have to do it on a freshly-built drive is if...

- One of your synchs failed, or was terminated, halfway through since your last drive build.
- The drive didn't actually get rebuilt.
- In addition to rebuilding, you added some kind of thirdparty software that's locking the drive open and preventing it from being remounted properly. Stuff like TTSclock, for example.

Did any of those things happen?
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#293097 - 29/01/2007 22:25 Re: Syncing problems [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12324
Loc: Sterling, VA
Hmm...it didn't take an hour. It takes about 20-30 minutes, though. And this is on a total of ~225GB (80GB and 160GB).

I didn't fail any syncs.
I'm pretty sure it built the drives. It took a while and everything seemed to check out in hyperterminal.
I definitely didn't add any other software. I only ran the builder and the 2.01 for large disks.

The other reason I saw was drive problems. That's not out of the question, but the drives are practically brand new (no more than about 6 months).
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#293098 - 30/01/2007 03:15 Re: Syncing problems [Re: Dignan]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14488
Loc: Canada
Quote:
Hmm...it didn't take an hour. It


The time required for the filesystem integrity check depends upon how "full" the filesystem is. A 999GB filesystem that is only 1% full will take mere minutes, whereas a 200GB filesystem that is 95% full could take hours.

Go into the Hijack Menu (long knob press) and set Filesystem Check on Sync to disabled, to prevent unnecessary checks. That ought to have been the default, but it wasn't (and still isn't even today, in our overly cautious societies).

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#293099 - 05/02/2007 13:20 Re: Syncing problems [Re: mlord]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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unnecessary checks.


It's worth mentioning that emplode will display that it's checking the disks every time you sync.

What it's doing is running fsck every time. If the disk is clean (unmounted cleanly, not been too long, not been too many mounts) that'll finish within a second or so. It's only if it displays that message for longer than this that it's actually checking the disk.
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#293100 - 05/02/2007 13:22 Re: Syncing problems [Re: Roger]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12324
Loc: Sterling, VA
It's stopped fixing problems now. Things seem to be working okay, although I don't have the most confidence in one or both of the drives I have in there But it's working for now, so I'm happy.

Thanks for the help, everyone!
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