#293578 - 05/06/2007 15:25
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[Re: frog51]
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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Conversely, we seem to generate a laugh when talking about routing (like shooting) which apparently has some scurrilous associations in North America :-)
Really, only due to one national chain, and their irritatingly earwormy jingle.
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#293579 - 05/06/2007 15:33
Re: FON - Free internet and free router
[Re: frog51]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Loc: Cambridge, England
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Conversely, we seem to generate a laugh when talking about routing (like shooting) which apparently has some scurrilous associations in North America:-)
Australia, I thought. You can't sell hormone rooting powder there, either -- or, at least, not to gardeners.
Peter
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#293580 - 05/06/2007 16:17
Re: FON - Free internet and free router
[Re: peter]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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I'm not sure what you're saying. Is it that "route" is derived from "router" rather than the other way around? Certainly in US English, "route" as existed as both a verb and a noun since before the Internet, usually referring to roads and directions.
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#293581 - 05/06/2007 16:20
Re: FON - Free internet and free router
[Re: frog51]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Conversely, we seem to generate a laugh when talking about routing (like shooting) which apparently has some scurrilous associations in North America
Really, it just sounds silly. There are two homonyms, both spelled "rooting", one which means to support by encouragement, as in a sports team, and the other means to dig around in search of something, like a pig might be rooting for a truffle.
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#293582 - 05/06/2007 16:37
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[Re: tfabris]
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Peter's correct. Rooting is more scurrilous in Australia.
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#293583 - 05/06/2007 17:02
Re: FON - Free internet and free router
[Re: wfaulk]
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I'm not sure what you're saying. Is it that "route" is derived from "router" rather than the other way around?
No, just that "route" the verb was derived from "route" the noun relatively recently (OED has no reference before 1893 for the verb, whereas the noun is C13th). Once "route" became a verb, there was nowhere for its gerund to go except "router", a different pronunciation of which was already in use as the gerund of the much older verb "rout", also C13th.
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Certainly in US English, "route" has existed as both a verb and a noun since before the Internet, usually referring to roads and directions.
Before the Internet, yes. Before, say, the telegraph -- no.
Peter
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#293584 - 05/06/2007 17:19
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[Re: peter]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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No, just that "route" the verb was derived from "route" the noun relatively recently
Oh, duh. Gotcha.
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#293585 - 05/06/2007 17:19
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gerund
I keep using that word. It turns out it doesn't mean what I think it means.
The gerund is "routing" (or, as OED would prefer us to write, "routeing"). "Router" is something else.
Peter
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#293586 - 05/06/2007 17:20
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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I couldn't come up with a term any better than "verbal noun", so I decided not to correct you.
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#293587 - 05/06/2007 17:48
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[Re: peter]
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Registered: 14/04/2002
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A year or two back I read a news article where a Lady Somebody was visiting Australia/NZ and met a rugby team who were playing another country the following day. She spoke to the captain and said "we're all rooting for you", to which he replied "I think we are capable of doing that ourselves, thanks".
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#293588 - 05/06/2007 18:00
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[Re: g_attrill]
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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A year or two back I read a news article where a Lady Somebody was visiting Australia/NZ and met a rugby team who were playing another country the following day. She spoke to the captain and said "we're all rooting for you", to which he replied "I think we are capable of doing that ourselves, thanks".
It is similar to the brand Durex. What it is in the UK and what it is elsewhere are totally different. Asking for a roll of Durex may cause some odd looks if you did it in the UK...
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#293589 - 05/06/2007 18:04
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[Re: tman]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Odd. I'm familiar with the SSL brand Durex, but I've never heard of the 3M brand Durex.
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#305927 - 10/01/2008 14:17
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[Re: Schido]
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Registered: 29/03/2005
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I got some more to giveaway, had to have them sent to my own address though: It´s the season of sharing, and in that holiday spirit we at FON want to thank you for sharing your WiFi all year round.
We thought you might enjoy playing Santa by inviting someone you care about to join our WiFi Community. To make it easy we will send you THREE FREE FON ROUTERS.
Put a few bows and some mistletoe on them and you are good to go with a present of global WiFi. And if you´re really in the spirit, you might even help them install it:-) I guess i get to play Santa in January, they arrived today: Yours for the postage fee from the Netherlands. (Again only for members that been here for a while) 
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#305941 - 10/01/2008 21:51
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[Re: Schido]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Hey Schido - I have been trying to persuade a colleague to go Fon (I already have one). I'll happily pay postage to get him hooked up if you can let me know how much that will be to Scotland?
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#305958 - 11/01/2008 12:49
Re: FON - Free internet and free router
[Re: Schido]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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PM sent :-)
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