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#302449 - 23/09/2007 07:14 Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
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My "Show Desktop" icon in the system tray no longer works.

This particular routine is unusual, in that it is not an ordinary shortcut to an application. Instead, it (apparently) calls up a bit of code embedded in Internet Explorer. Microsoft's knowledge base has a routine for re-creating the Show Desktop icon that writes the following to the "C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch" directory:

[Shell]
Command=2
IconFile=explorer.exe,3
[Taskbar]
Command=ToggleDesktop

There is also a "Guided Help" option on the Microsoft website that does it all automatically.

I have done it manually, and I have used the Guided Help option. As near as I can tell, both methods create the proper file in the proper location, but Show Desktop doesn't work.

Does anybody have a fix for this?

tanstaafl.
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#302450 - 23/09/2007 15:47 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
drakino
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Does the key combination Windows-D still work to show it?

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#302451 - 23/09/2007 18:35 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: drakino]
tanstaafl.
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Does the key combination Windows-D still work to show it?


Damifino... my keyboard dates back to Windows 3.0 (It's a Gateway 2000 "Anykey") and it doesn't have one of those fancy-schmancy Windows keys.



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#302452 - 23/09/2007 19:34 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
visuvius
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Well whenever I have this problem (and I used to often on my old Dell laptop for some reason) I did basically the same thing as you, ie, followed the directions on the link you provided. But you sort of lost me with:

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Microsoft's knowledge base has a routine for re-creating the Show Desktop icon that writes the following to the "C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\QuickLaunch" directory:


I just open a blank notepad file, paste that bit of code, and save the file as Show Desktop.scf to my desktop. This creates the Show Desktop shortcut and I just move it back into my Quick Launch toolbar.

Sorry if you already tried this!

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#302453 - 23/09/2007 19:43 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: visuvius]
tanstaafl.
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Sorry if you already tried this!


Yes, I tried it manually the first three or four times, then used the little Microsoft applet (which does exactly the same thing as doing it manually, except it's just clicking on dialog buttons -- standard "wizard" stuff) and the end results were the same either way.

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#302454 - 23/09/2007 19:46 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
tanstaafl.
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doesn't have one of those fancy-schmancy Windows keys.


Hah! I found an old USB keyboard that SWMBO left behind, plugged it in, and sure enough, the "'Windows' - D" trick does show the desktop.

What does that mean, and is it anything I can use to my advantage?

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#302455 - 23/09/2007 21:35 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
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Loc: Oxford, UK
Perhaps the file asociation for .scf files is broken.

To check/repair it run regedit then look in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.scf -- it should look like the following:



If that looks okay then copy/pasting the following into a .reg file and double-clicking might change your computer's behaviour in this instance (this is a guess... it might bugger it up totally). Make a System Restore Point beforehand::
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile]
"NeverShowExt"=""
@="Windows Explorer Command"
"InfoTip"="prop:DocComments"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\CLSID]
@="{57651662-CE3E-11D0-8D77-00C04FC99D61}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shell\open]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shell\open\command]
@="explorer.exe"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shell\open\ddeexec]
@="[ShellFile(\"%1\",\"%1\",%S)]"
"NoActivateHandler"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shell\open\ddeexec\Application]
@="Folders"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shell\open\ddeexec\Topic]
@="AppProperties"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shellex]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shellex\DropHandler]
@="{86C86720-42A0-1069-A2E8-08002B30309D}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SHCmdFile\shellex\IconHandler]
@="{57651662-CE3E-11D0-8D77-00C04FC99D61}"



Attachments
303805-showdesktop.jpg (136 downloads)



Edited by AndrewT (23/09/2007 21:45)

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#302456 - 24/09/2007 03:40 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Cool, never used that one. I used Windows-M all the time, but I like Windows-D better as hitting it again puts things back. And as to what it means, I assume D = show desktop, where M = Minimize all.

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#302457 - 24/09/2007 05:49 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: AndrewT]
tanstaafl.
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it should look like the following:


It looks exactly like that.

Quote:
If that looks okay then copy/pasting the following into a .reg file and double-clicking


I did that, but when I double-click it, it just opens the file in notepad. Looks like that file association at least is incorrect. How do I fix it? Explorer/Tools/Folder Options/File Types/Advanced is as far as I know to go, what am I supposed to associate with *.reg files, and how do I go about it?

tanstaafl.


Edited by tanstaafl. (24/09/2007 05:50)
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#302458 - 24/09/2007 06:34 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
It could be that your Windows is hiding file extensions and you created somefile.reg.txt?

An alternative is to run regedit and use File->Import

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#302459 - 24/09/2007 12:49 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: AndrewT]
Roger
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It could be that your Windows is hiding file extensions and you created somefile.reg.txt?


If you want to save a file from notepad without the .txt extension, put quotes around the filename: "somefile.reg"
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#302460 - 24/09/2007 12:58 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: lectric]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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I like Windows-D better as hitting it again puts things back.

Okay, that is awesome. Even the icon does that, which I didn't realize.
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#302461 - 24/09/2007 15:57 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: AndrewT]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Perhaps the file asociation for .scf files is broken.


I tried to help Doug debug this privately, and that's the conclusion I came to as well.

More than that, I think the file association for many files types somehow got broken on that machine.

I know it's not a question of the file getting named .reg.txt , because the first thing he does on any new machine (like me) is to turn off extension-hiding.

So there's something fishy going on there, I just have no idea what.
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#302462 - 24/09/2007 16:09 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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"Repair Associations" option in TweakUI?

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#302463 - 24/09/2007 23:00 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: AndrewT]
tanstaafl.
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It could be that your Windows is hiding file extensions and you created somefile.reg.txt?


I'm pretty sure that is not the case. The instructions that Microsoft gives on recreating the icon specifically warns about this, and as Tony said earlier I always have my file extensions displayed. Also, the applet that Microsoft provides that creates the file automatically would most likely do it correctly, and neither the manually created nor the automatically created icon works.

Interestingly enough, Windows hides the .scf extension even though filetype extension display is turned on in Explorer. SCF, I believe, stands for Shell Command File, and these seem to be "special" files. The icon is not an ordinary shortcut pointing towards an executable, but seems to be part of the executable itself.

Looking at the filename from a DOS prompt does show the .scf extension, and a peek at my Windows Registry does seem to indicate that the .scf file association is intact.

tanstaafl.
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#302464 - 24/09/2007 23:05 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tfabris]
tanstaafl.
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More than that, I think the file association for many files types somehow got broken on that machine.


Well, I know for sure of only one broken association (*.reg files opening with notepad rather than executing) and I am pretty sure I broke that one myself. I don't remember the exact circumstances, but at one point I wanted to see what was inside a *.reg file (likely one that you sent me!) and there is a pretty good chance that I opened it with Notepad and failed to turn off the "Always use this application to open this type of file" check box.

Can you tell me what I have to do to fix that association?

tanstaafl.
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#302465 - 25/09/2007 00:07 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
wfaulk
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Open an Explorer window (double-click on My Computer, for instance), click on the Tools menu and select the Folder Options menu item. Click on the File Types tab and find the entry for "REG". There should be a button that says "Restore". Click it.
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#302466 - 25/09/2007 04:09 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: wfaulk]
tanstaafl.
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There should be a button that says "Restore". Click it.


I can find no such button.

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#302467 - 25/09/2007 10:45 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
Dignan
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There should be a button that says "Restore". Click it.


I can find no such button.

I was curious so I checked mine too, and I don't see a button like that. Did you step through that one yourself, Bitt? It's odd that you'd have a different option there. What version of Windows are you running?
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#302468 - 25/09/2007 11:48 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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If it's non-standard, the "Advanced" button changes to "Restore". If the "Restore" button is not there, it's already set to the default. If you want to change it to something else, that panel is where you do it from. It ought to be reasonably obvious at that point.

This was under Windows XP Pro, so I suppose that it's possible that it might be slightly different elsewhere.
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#302469 - 25/09/2007 21:36 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: wfaulk]
tanstaafl.
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If it's non-standard, the "Advanced" button changes to "Restore". If the "Restore" button is not there, it's already set to the default.


That doesn't seem right... Neither my computer at home nor my computer at work show the "Restore" option, yet my home computer says :"Opens with Notepad" for the program associated with *.reg files, while my work computer says "Opens with Registry Editor". They can't both be the default. Can they?

As I said before, I am pretty sure I broke the *.reg association myself through carelessness in viewing a *.reg file. How can I make my home computer associate "Registry Editor" (whatever that is!) with the *.reg files?

And above all, how can I get my "Show Desktop" routine to work? If/when I get the *.reg file association thing fixed, I'll try the *.reg script that AndrewT posted above, and see if that fixes it. I have to confess that I don't even begin to understand what that script does.

tanstaafl.
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#302470 - 25/09/2007 21:42 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Somewhere up above, someone suggested using TweakUI and fixing your default associations. I think it was a good suggestion. Have you tried that yet?
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#302471 - 25/09/2007 23:33 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tfabris]
tanstaafl.
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using TweakUI and fixing your default associations.


I remember reading that, and then it slipped my mind.

I'll try that tonight. Thanks for the reminder.

tanstaafl.
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#302472 - 26/09/2007 02:15 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tfabris]
tanstaafl.
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Somewhere up above, someone suggested using TweakUI and fixing your default associations. I think it was a good suggestion. Have you tried that yet?


Perhaps I'm just not smart enough to own a computer... but I can't find anything in TweakUI that has anything to do with repairing file associations.

What am I overlooking?

tanstaafl.
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#302473 - 26/09/2007 04:16 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
Schido
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Isn't it as easy as shift-right clicking a .reg file, choose open with..., choose program..., pick regedit from the list (or browse...), and be sure to check the box: always open wih this program? (or something like that, i have dutch windows at work).
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#302474 - 26/09/2007 10:27 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
Phoenix42
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Tweak UI is an add-on. It can be downloaded from this page, look over on the right hand side about half way down.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

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#302475 - 26/09/2007 16:23 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: Phoenix42]
tfabris
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I don't think he's got a problem with installing TweakUI, I think where his problem lies is finding the option to repair default file associations buried in the extensive TweakUI property screens.

I'm on Vista at the moment and can't look it up myself. Anyone?
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#302476 - 26/09/2007 18:49 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: Schido]
tanstaafl.
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pick regedit from the list (or browse...)


Yes... but is regedit the program I want? That's been my problem to date -- I don't know what program to use for the *.reg file association.

Re: Tony: You are correct, I have had TweakUI installed for years, I even updated to the latest version last night, but don't see where it can correct/repair file associations.

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#302477 - 26/09/2007 19:03 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: tanstaafl.]
AndrewT
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I don't know what program to use for the *.reg file association.


I'm probably missing a vital piece of background information here but there's no necessity for the *.reg association. You can manually import a *.reg file:

Start -> Run... regedit will get Regedit up on your PC.

From there: File -> Import... and browse to the *.reg file you want to import.

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#302478 - 26/09/2007 19:08 Re: Windows XP problem: "Show Desktop" icon no longer works [Re: AndrewT]
tfabris
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I know he doesn't need the file association for regedit to make regedit work.

But my worry is that the thing that's broken is the association for .SCF files, and that's why the microsoft KB fix isn't working for him.

If the association for SCF files is broken, maybe other file associations are broken on the machine as well, pointing to an even larger problem. That's why I think the TweakUI "fix default file associations" trick is worth trying.
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