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#303152 - 16/10/2007 17:07 Re: Portal [Re: furtive]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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I've got Ep1 but would love HL2.

That's so very odd! I can't imagine buying Ep1 without having already owned and played HL2. What's the story behind that?

If you're on my Steam friends list, I'll gift it the next time I'm back at the computer.

Edit I see you're in the community so it's all good. Probably Wednesday night (US Pacific time) you'll see it.
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#303153 - 16/10/2007 17:48 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
How do you get a gift to give?
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#303154 - 16/10/2007 18:14 Re: Portal [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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How do you get a gift to give?

It's explained at my link, and from sub-links therein.

It happens because I (like many others) already bought HL2+Ep1, and now I bought Orange Box, so now I own two copies of HL2+Ep1.

So in the "My Games" menu on steam, next to those two games, is a gift button.
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#303155 - 16/10/2007 19:08 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Took me ages to work out the momentum one

Spoiler:
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#303156 - 16/10/2007 19:10 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
drakino
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Actually, Tony, if you want to save yours, I only have HL2 to gift, as I never bought EP1 till the Orange Box. That way if you gift yours to someone, they get both HL2 and EP1.

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#303157 - 16/10/2007 19:37 Re: Portal [Re: drakino]
tfabris
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Actually, Tony, if you want to save yours, I only have HL2 to gift, as I never bought EP1 till the Orange Box. That way if you gift yours to someone, they get both HL2 and EP1.


Okay, deal. Furtive, you're getting HL2 from Drakino.
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#303158 - 16/10/2007 20:05 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
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Sadly I saw the Orange Box thing very late - so bought Portal. I guess I'll buy Orange Box now so will have HL2, HL2ep1 and Portal to gift.

Anyone need some games?

Oh - And I spotted Stalker - shadow of Chernobyl as well. Gonna have to buy that too. Just joined the empeg group so will have to get some games on!
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#303159 - 16/10/2007 21:59 Re: Portal [Re: frog51]
tman
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Sadly I saw the Orange Box thing very late - so bought Portal. I guess I'll buy Orange Box now so will have HL2, HL2ep1 and Portal to gift.

You can only gift HL2 and Ep1 according to the website.

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#303160 - 16/10/2007 23:40 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Well crap. Looks like I can't use my old Steam account. It's been over a year since I logged into it, and I forgot my password. I've now gone through the password reset process about 12 times. I have the account name right, because I'm receiving the emails instructing me how to change the password. It gives me a security code, but it also says I have to answer a "secret question" that I guess I filled out when I signed up. Unfortunately, that question was "who was your childhood hero?"

What the hell? I have do idea what I entered for that, and I've tried everything I can think of, from parents to superheros, but nothing works. And I guess I'd have to enter it exactly right or it wouldn't register properly. What a stupid system. I really don't want to make a new account name...
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#303161 - 17/10/2007 14:51 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
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Actually, Tony, if you want to save yours, I only have HL2 to gift, as I never bought EP1 till the Orange Box. That way if you gift yours to someone, they get both HL2 and EP1.


Okay, deal. Furtive, you're getting HL2 from Drakino.


Furtive, it looks like you need to accept my friend request before I can send it. Once you do, I'll send the game off to you, and it should show up in your Steam "Not Installed" list.

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#303162 - 17/10/2007 19:26 Re: Portal [Re: tman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
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You can only gift HL2 and Ep1 according to the website.

Which is really kind of silly. You'd think if they put the mechanism in there for two games, they'd do it for all of them. Odd.
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#303163 - 18/10/2007 12:08 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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There are videos on YouTube of people doing the speed runs. Some of them are crazy! Just over a minute to complete a test chamber in some of them. I don't think I could ever aim and fire the portals that quick...

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#303164 - 18/10/2007 15:15 Re: Portal [Re: tman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
One of those speed runs did something I was always afraid to try. I'll have to try it next time I play it: Peek part way though a pair of portals and shoot your next portal from that point.

It seems to make you fall out of whatever portal you were peeking through, but if you set things up right you can blow another hole after you fall...
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#303165 - 18/10/2007 15:22 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
Wow this one is even more amazing http://youtube.com/watch?v=oOejahbmw2c
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#303166 - 18/10/2007 15:35 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
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Loc: Austin
I've done it. It does push you, but if you're not sticking out too far it won't knock you off. I had to use that technique to beat some of the custom maps I've found.

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#303167 - 18/10/2007 16:03 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Wow this one is even more amazing http://youtube.com/watch?v=oOejahbmw2c

Pfft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX48SV9dsxs is even faster! 58 seconds!

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#303168 - 18/10/2007 16:13 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
This game makes my brain hurt.
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#303169 - 18/10/2007 18:04 Re: Portal [Re: tman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Wow this one is even more amazing http://youtube.com/watch?v=oOejahbmw2c

Pfft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX48SV9dsxs is even faster! 58 seconds!

That's just the standard difficulty level. The ones I was linking were for the advanced difficulty, where you couldn't do certain things the 58-second guy uses, and the sentry guns are much more active and deadly.
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#303170 - 18/10/2007 18:49 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Peek part way though a pair of portals and shoot your next portal from that point.


Ah, this video shows the awesome way of doing it.

You peek through the portal, shoot another portal as you're peeking through, and (here's the key) as portal the "bullet" is flying through the air towards the wall, back out of the portal again before it hits. Thus advancing your destination portal each time without ever needing to leave your starting point.
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#303171 - 18/10/2007 18:51 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
drakino
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It seems to make you fall out of whatever portal you were peeking through, but if you set things up right you can blow another hole after you fall...


The developer commentary talked about this on one of the early levels. They didn't want the portals to kill the player or destroy objects, so they sometimes gently push the player or object out of the way if it is closing.

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#303172 - 18/10/2007 20:45 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
That's one way of doing it but, as I said, it's not necessary. You can remain in the portal.

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#303173 - 24/10/2007 17:21 Re: Portal [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
Updates:

I'm trying to get gold medals in all of the challenges. Goodness, some of them are tough. But do-able.

Something interesting... I'm pretty sure there's a way to do Challenge 13 with ZERO portals. First, watch this. Then, understand that the first two portals he used were unnecessary: It's possible to jump off the button just right and be able to barely grab the cube from below without using any portals (illustrated here, I was able to replicate it after a few tries). Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm not sure how one would get up to the ledge without a portal. Maybe it can't be done.

Another fun one is the "use the camera to jam the door open trick" shown here. I discovered that trick very early on (I alluded to having done it in my very first post on this thread). But this guy takes it a step further and succesfully flings the security camera into the doorway from a distance, whereas I had to carefully balance the camera against the door seam then hop up to the button.

Finally, Vixy and I have come to a conclusion about the game's setting and how it fits into the HL2 universe. Take the following quote from GLaDOS at the end:

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Are you trying to escape? *warped laughter* Things have changed since you last left the building. Whats going on out there is going to make you wish you were back in here. I have an infinite capacity for knowledge, and even I'm not sure what's going on outside. All I know is that I'm the only thing standing between us and them. Unless you have the parts to build a new supercomputer, this place isn't going to be safe much longer. Nice job on that, by the way.


Clearly, you were in the stasis chamber during the Black Mesa incident, and GLaDOS has been managing to keep the various Xen baddies out of Aperture labs the whole time.

Vixy realized this morning that certain lines in the Coulton song hint to this as well:

"When I look out there it makes me glad I'm not you."
...
"While you're dying, I'll be still alive."


Can't wait until Episode 3.

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#303174 - 24/10/2007 19:06 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Unless you have the parts to build a new supercomputer, this place isn't going to be safe much longer. Nice job on that, by the way.

Safe being relative here Stuck inside with a psychotic rampaging AI that gassed the rest of the facility...

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Clearly, you were in the stasis chamber during the Black Mesa incident, and GLaDOS has been managing to keep the various Xen baddies out of Aperture labs the whole time.

I'd guess at sometime between HL1 and HL2. The shot where you wake up after blowing up GLaDOS shows it be fairly normal looking. No sign of combine or a massive citadel in the background.

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#303175 - 25/10/2007 20:55 Re: Portal [Re: tman]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
that would work, time-wise...judging by the contents of the transmission Alyx has in ep2...
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#303176 - 25/10/2007 22:02 Re: Portal [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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#303177 - 28/10/2007 17:49 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
that just isn't normal. I mean I'm still having trouble trying to throw stuff, let alone have that sort of accuracy in firing!
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#303178 - 30/10/2007 04:45 Re: Portal [Re: Roger]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
The Cake is a LIE!

Great game, TF2 is amazing.. Everything I loved about the original Quakeworld TF that I played WAAAAAY too much of.
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#303179 - 10/11/2007 11:57 Re: Portal [Re: SuperQ]
tman
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#306281 - 18/01/2008 00:36 Re: Portal [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Originally Posted By: tfabris
By the way, if anyone wants HL2 and Episode 1, I can gift 'em.

I realize that it's been ages, but I'll take Ep 1 if anyone still has it for gifting.
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#306286 - 18/01/2008 06:45 Re: Portal [Re: wfaulk]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
I have Ep1 spare - where do you want it sent?
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