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#310389 - 21/05/2008 13:58 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: peter]
Roger
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Originally Posted By: peter
On the other hand, some people do use v3alpha11 every day without issues.


I use v3a11 regularly (but not every day -- my car rarely moves from its spot outside the house, and I'm not using my mlord dock at the moment), and it reboots occasionally. I can live with it.

For what it's worth, I don't use the tuner (I have one, but I only use it as a Ford Focus stalk adapter), and I listen to MP3 files only. I also don't bother with the visuals.
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#310390 - 21/05/2008 15:31 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: peter]
tfabris
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Originally Posted By: peter
Originally Posted By: Boelle
should i go for v2.01-final or v3.00-alpha11?

That's a good question, which doesn't actually seem to be in the FAQ, at least not in that pithy a form.


I've updated the relevant FAQ entry a bit. smile
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#310392 - 21/05/2008 17:37 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: tfabris]
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i have found one error... but the check is not complete

but is there a way to exclude the bad sectors from beeing used?
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#310394 - 21/05/2008 18:20 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
tfabris
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I think that with modern IDE drives, the act of exercising that sector will automatically mark it as bad, you don't need to do anything. Mark, correct me if I'm wrong?
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#310396 - 22/05/2008 00:19 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
i have found one error... but the check is not complete


Huh? If it hits any error, it will bail out completely.
So what makes you think it "found one error" ?

Log, please.

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#310397 - 22/05/2008 05:09 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: tfabris]
Roger
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Originally Posted By: tfabris
I think that with modern IDE drives, the act of exercising that sector will automatically mark it as bad, you don't need to do anything. Mark, correct me if I'm wrong?


I believe that you have to write to that sector to cause it to be re-mapped.
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#310398 - 22/05/2008 06:56 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Roger]
Boelle
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it has not returned to the command line yet.. but it was telling something about input/output error
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#310399 - 22/05/2008 07:06 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
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empeg:/empeg/bin# cat /dev/hd* > /dev/null
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=96695, sector=96695
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:40 (hdb), sector 96695
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=100349, sector=100349
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:40 (hdb), sector 100349
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=115173, sector=115173
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:40 (hdb), sector 115173
cat: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=65264558, sector=65055713
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:44 (hdb), sector 65055713
cat: /dev/hdc4: Input/output error
empeg:/empeg/bin#
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#310402 - 22/05/2008 08:54 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
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i thought it could not hurt to format (build) the drives

i had to do it 2 times before it began the stress test, which i remeber means that the build went ok

during one of the builds ig got these errors on the secound drive:

Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done

real 4m0.304s
user 0m2.120s
sys 0m14.420s
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:44 (hdb), sector 119816194
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,68)): read_block_bitmap: Cannot read block bitmap - block_group = 7313, block_bitmap = 59908097
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,68)): ext2_check_blocks_bitmap: Wrong free blocks count in super block, stored = 77942805, counted = 77934623
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#310403 - 22/05/2008 09:06 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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btw... will both drives be stress tested?
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#310404 - 22/05/2008 10:17 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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just did the build 3 times in a row with no problems, just waiting for cat /dev/hd* > /dev/null to tell if the errors are still there.. will take a very looooooong time :-)
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#310405 - 22/05/2008 10:20 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: Boelle

empeg:/empeg/bin# cat /dev/hd* > /dev/null


Ahh.. that explains why you think it "keeps on going".

Just for fun, try typing echo cat /dev/hd* and you'll see what command you really issued there. smile

For future advice-givers, the correct syntax is:
cat /dev/hd? > /dev/null
Which will finish in half the time with no errors, or less in the presence of errors.

But regardless, in this case there is something wrong.
So now use this command to repair the drive:

cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc

And then re-run the disk-builder stuff.

Cheers

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#310406 - 22/05/2008 10:24 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: mlord]
Boelle
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big thanks...
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#310407 - 22/05/2008 10:28 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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btw.. you said that you could repair a broken handle?

do you ned a pic of it first ?
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#310408 - 22/05/2008 10:41 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
btw.. you said that you could repair a broken handle?

do you ned a pic of it first ?


I can probably repair the broken handle, but won't know for sure until I try it.

A picture (here) might be fun. smile

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#310412 - 22/05/2008 10:56 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: mlord]
Boelle
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well one pic will be here later

another question, was there ever made a guide for the auto eq thing? i guees that i have to use the mic input on the sled, and some spec. files....

but by guide i mean for dummies.. sometinh like this:

1. do this
2. then do this
...
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#310419 - 22/05/2008 11:40 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Shonky
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Originally Posted By: Boelle

another question, was there ever made a guide for the auto eq thing? i guees that i have to use the mic input on the sled, and some spec. files....

This is about as good as it got. Worked for me, although personally I tweaked a little to my like first.
http://empegbbs.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=1&Number=231894

There's also this manual way:
http://empegwiki.org/index.php?title=Empeg_Sound_-_parametetric_eq
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#310420 - 22/05/2008 17:28 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Shonky]
Boelle
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good guide.... but where do i get the auto-eq files? and what order do i have to set them?

i may be blind but did not sse that
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#310421 - 22/05/2008 18:36 Auto Eq [Re: Boelle]
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#310422 - 22/05/2008 20:41 Re: Auto Eq [Re: andy]
Boelle
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thanks for the files


how long should cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc take for a 80 gb drive?
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#310424 - 22/05/2008 23:49 Re: Auto Eq [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
thanks for the files


how long should cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc take for a 80 gb drive?


Most likely on the order of 80 * 1000 * seconds, or from 10-22 hours.

-ml

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#310487 - 26/05/2008 11:56 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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after some 11-12 hours i got this:

empeg:/empeg/bin# cat /dev/hd? > /dev/null
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40
show_message("36e0.-1 hdb: err: read_intr")
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:40 (hdb), sector 115464112
cat: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
empeg:/empeg/bin#
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#310488 - 26/05/2008 11:56 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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keep in mind that i did the repair as mark told me to do...
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#310491 - 26/05/2008 13:26 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
after some 11-12 hours i got this:

empeg:/empeg/bin# cat /dev/hd? > /dev/null
hdb: read_intr: status=0x59
hdb: read_intr: error=0x40
show_message("36e0.-1 hdb: err: read_intr")
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:40 (hdb), sector 115464112
cat: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
empeg:/empeg/bin#


Mmm.. "read_intr: status=0x59 error=0x40" really means "bad sector". That shouldn't happen here if you successfully did the cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc command beforehand.

So repeat both steps again. If it still fails, something else (connectors) may be bad.

Or get the smartctl binary for the empeg and run it -- it will read out the error logs from the drive to tell us what *really* happened.

Cheers

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#310502 - 26/05/2008 18:58 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: mlord]
Boelle
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while i do another cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc

i wondered.. the auto.eq thing.. is that only in ver 3?
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#310503 - 26/05/2008 19:00 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
tman
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Yes

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#310510 - 27/05/2008 08:45 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: tman]
Boelle
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i guees that doing cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc

it's normal to get no space left on drive error
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#310512 - 27/05/2008 12:28 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Shonky
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
i guees that doing cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdc

it's normal to get no space left on drive error

By doing this you will remove everything. You are zeroing every single sector on the drive. So all data will be gone. It will also erase any partitions set up previously.
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#310513 - 27/05/2008 12:34 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Shonky]
Boelle
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i know...

is there a way to do it for both drives? some of the partions ar mounted read only
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#310514 - 27/05/2008 12:37 Re: more RAM+Harddisk errors [Re: Boelle]
Roger
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
i know...

is there a way to do it for both drives? some if the partions ar mounted read only


To do it for both drives, just use /dev/hda and /dev/hdc for the second parameter.

It doesn't care that the partitions are mounted read-only, because it writes over the entire drive, including the partition table.

What it does is cause the disk to remap the bad sectors (the drive will only remap when writing).

Running out of space is expected: /dev/zero is an infinite-length stream of zeroes, and your disk has finite space.

(slightly drunk; being unnecessarily concise)
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