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#351441 - 10/04/2012 11:25 Manual Can Opener Recommendation?
Redrum
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I would definitely not call myself normal and one of the ways I probably differ from the norm is I prefer a manual can opener to an eclectic. Opening a can of tuna over the sink and spilling tuna juice into the sink rather than on the counter just seems the way to go. Unfortunately every new can opener I get seems to break sooner and sooner. A recent can opener lasted me about a week. I returned that one and the replacement lasted about two weeks. I’ve tried to buy the more expensive models in the stores but they still break. I’ve gone through about five can openers in the last six months.

So, I’m looking for a manual handheld opener that will last. I would think $20 should buy a good opener that should last a few years (like they did in the old days). Anyone have a suggestion?

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#351442 - 10/04/2012 11:36 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
tahir
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We're quite happy with these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leifheit-Proline...899&sr=8-47

They also do a version with a magnet to hold the newly cut lid

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#351443 - 10/04/2012 11:46 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: tahir]
frog51
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Yup - Leifheit for me as well. Haven't broken it, and I can't count how long I have had it...
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#351444 - 10/04/2012 11:50 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: tahir]
Redrum
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Thanks. The only thing about that one is I’m leery of the plastic turning handle. The last two openers I had broke when the plastic handle stripped out. One would no longer spin the can and the other one just came off.

I had one that would spin the can by squeezing the handle. I really liked that design but after going through two in a couple months that was the end my desire for those.

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#351445 - 10/04/2012 11:59 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
Dignan
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I'm a fan of the Oxo can opener, but my wife hates it. It cuts around the side edge of the lid, so when you're done, neither the edge of the can or lid is sharp. I think it doesn't work that well if you don't have a good amount of strength in your hands, which is why I think my wife hates it because it doesn't work that well for her. It might also be because it's about 5 years old now so maybe its cutting blade has dulled a bit.

Really, I'd recommend an Oxo product for pretty much anything...
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#351446 - 10/04/2012 12:09 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Dignan]
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I think my can opener is a Tupperware opener, but functions the same as the Oxo opener Dignan mentioned, but I don't think you need very strong hands to operate it. It also has a big grip so you can use the whole hand to operate instead of just some fingers. I think it's something like this. A bit more than your $20, but if it lasts it might be worth it... smile

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#351447 - 10/04/2012 12:10 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Dignan]
Redrum
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Sorry I'm with your wife on this one. With the side cutters you can't press the lid down into the tuna can and squeeze out the juice. Plus the sharp top on the can just seems more dangerous, to me.

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#351448 - 10/04/2012 12:12 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: StigOE]
hybrid8
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I'll second Matt's recommendation for a side-cutting opener. Kuhn Rikon makes them as well and if you get the stainless version, there's no chance whatsoever that you or anyone else will ever break it. http://www.bigkitchen.com/product/Kuhn-R...and_Jar_Openers

As Matt also mentioned, the blade will get dull over time. But mine is 10 years old and still usable.


Edited by hybrid8 (10/04/2012 12:17)
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#351449 - 10/04/2012 12:12 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
Tim
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This one is really rugged:

http://www.amazon.com/GI-Large-P-51-Can-Opener/dp/B00176IMW4

I definitely prefer the full metal pieces than the plastic ones:

http://www.amazon.com/Amco-Swing-A-Way-7...7051&sr=8-4

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#351450 - 10/04/2012 12:13 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: StigOE]
Redrum
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Originally Posted By: StigOE
I think my can opener is a Tupperware opener, but functions the same as the Oxo opener Dignan mentioned, but I don't think you need very strong hands to operate it. It also has a big grip so you can use the whole hand to operate instead of just some fingers. I think it's something like this. A bit more than your $20, but if it lasts it might be worth it... smile


Yep, that is our "back-up" opener and seems to work OK. The wife likes the side opener but sorry I'm a hater.

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#351451 - 10/04/2012 12:20 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
hybrid8
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Originally Posted By: Redrum
Plus the sharp top on the can just seems more dangerous, to me.


With the Kuhn Rikon and Oxo the top of the can should never be sharp. The cut is made along the seam, not below it, and the cut is rounded as it's made.
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#351453 - 10/04/2012 12:33 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: hybrid8]
Redrum
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Originally Posted By: hybrid8

With the Kuhn Rikon and Oxo the top of the can should never be sharp. The cut is made along the seam, not below it, and the cut is rounded as it's made.


Can you push the top of the lid down into the can?

Tuna, green beans, canned potatoes... I live on these sorts of things that need the juice removed.

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#351456 - 10/04/2012 13:25 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: Redrum
Sorry I'm with your wife on this one. With the side cutters you can't press the lid down into the tuna can and squeeze out the juice. Plus the sharp top on the can just seems more dangerous, to me.

Yeah, I'm not sure what you're talking about there. It's the opposite way around: traditional can openers create a sharp edge, and that's the whole reason for these side-cutters in the first place. I could easily run my finger down the edge of the lid after I've removed it with the Oxo. Not so with regular openers.

As for the liquid, no, you can't press the lid inward into the can. You can't press the juice out, but I have no problems draining the juice by holding the lid slightly askew from the top of the can. We do it all the time to make tuna sandwiches and tuna treats for the cats.
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#351457 - 10/04/2012 13:35 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Dignan]
Redrum
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The side cutter opener I have cuts below the can ridge and in most cases into the paper label (making it harder to cut). After removing the lid the top of the can is razor sharp as well as the lid bottom.

From the sounds of it your opener cuts the rim???

Your side opener sounds much better than mine. Regardless I’m too impatient to wait for the “juice” to drain and like to squeeze it all out.

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#351458 - 10/04/2012 14:08 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
StigOE
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The opener I have cuts the rim and definitely doesn't leave any sharp edges, but as have been said, you can't press the lid down into the can.

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#351462 - 10/04/2012 14:25 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: StigOE]
DWallach
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I'll also add a recommendation for a side cutter, since it yields a lid that goes back on the can when you used half of the contents and want to put the rest in the fridge.

We have both styles. I always use the side cutter and my wife always uses the top cutter. To each his own...

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#351465 - 10/04/2012 15:43 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: Redrum
The side cutter opener I have cuts below the can ridge and in most cases into the paper label (making it harder to cut). After removing the lid the top of the can is razor sharp as well as the lid bottom.

From the sounds of it your opener cuts the rim???

Exactly. Now that you mention it, I've heard of the kind you're talking about. This is definitely different, though. It cuts right along the rim of the can and creates no sharp edges.

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Regardless I’m too impatient to wait for the “juice” to drain and like to squeeze it all out.

Yeah, I can see that being an advantage. It's not a big deal to me, though. Most of the canned stuff we use is beans for things like chili, and we drain and rinse those in a colander anyway.
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#351468 - 10/04/2012 17:47 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
tanstaafl.
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Originally Posted By: Redrum
So, I’m looking for a manual handheld opener that will last
I've been happy with this one, but you might dismiss it due to the plastic knob. The knob does seem to be pretty massive and strong, however.

tanstaafl.


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#351470 - 10/04/2012 17:53 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
wfaulk
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I tend to find that Zyliss makes well-thought-out kitchen gadgets, and they have 5-year warranties. I don't have any experience with their can openers, though.
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#351471 - 10/04/2012 17:56 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: tanstaafl.]
Redrum
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Thanks, I'm not anti-plastic, just anti-crap-plastic.

One of my cars is mostly plastic, well, fiberglass.

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#351475 - 10/04/2012 23:29 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
Heather
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Not handheld, but manual:

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1278253

I've had mine for like 15 years and it still works fine. The one in my parents house has got to be at least as old as I am and the only thing wrong with it is the magnet came off sometime when I was in college.
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#351476 - 10/04/2012 23:45 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
msaeger
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I am afraid to shake hands with you, you must have a grip like a vice smile I have only bought cheap can openers and have never had one break. The one I have has a metal handle but it was just a cheap one from a department store.

I have tried the side cutting kind and haven't had any luck with them either. I also would never want an electric one you can't wash those.
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#351478 - 11/04/2012 00:14 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: msaeger]
gbeer
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Originally Posted By: msaeger

I have tried the side cutting kind and haven't had any luck with them either. I also would never want an electric one you can't wash those.


Electrics I've used had parts that can be removed for washing.
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#351479 - 11/04/2012 00:52 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: gbeer]
larry818
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That Amco Tim linked to is what's been in my kitchen for the last 20 years, and shows no signs of wanting replacement in the next few years.

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#351484 - 11/04/2012 10:11 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Heather]
Redrum
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Originally Posted By: Heather
Not handheld, but manual:

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1278253

I've had mine for like 15 years and it still works fine. The one in my parents house has got to be at least as old as I am and the only thing wrong with it is the magnet came off sometime when I was in college.


When I think of quality can openers this is what I think of. I believe I have the exact same opener in another house and it has been going strong for I would say 50 years.

I’m glad to know these are still make these. Maybe a Swing-A-Way hand held would be as good. Hopefully the need to save a penny hasn’t reduced the quality of these to “tin junk.”

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#351485 - 11/04/2012 10:41 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: msaeger]
Redrum
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Originally Posted By: msaeger
I am afraid to shake hands with you, you must have a grip like a vice smile I have only bought cheap can openers and have never had one break. The one I have has a metal handle but it was just a cheap one from a department store.

I have tried the side cutting kind and haven't had any luck with them either. I also would never want an electric one you can't wash those.


Well I have won way more arm wrestling competitions than I’ve lost smile

I think there are several issues at play here (as you see I’ve done way more thinking about this than I should). First, manufactures in general have been cutting costs and if quality goes down as a result big deal. Especially for an item under $10. I agree their reasoning is sound. Out of the last five can openers I gone through I’ve only returned one. Chances are the consumer will not waste their time returning an item under $10. Second, manual can openers are considered “low end” by many. After all, why would someone want to manually open a can when a machine could do it for you. Since the demographics target the low income consumer the manufactures create low cost, cheap, openers. Thirdly, I live in a rural area. Even the nearest Walmart is 20 miles away. So I do not often have the opportunity to “cruise the mall” or high end store.

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#351488 - 11/04/2012 11:38 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
hybrid8
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Are automatic/electric can openers popular? I've never seen one in person at anyone's home before. Everyone I know, or have ever known, where I've had the chance to check this kind of thing out, has always had a manual opener.
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#351489 - 11/04/2012 11:52 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: hybrid8]
mlord
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My parents have a fully automatic can opener -- useful for folks like them that suffer from arthritis.

Cheers

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#351490 - 11/04/2012 12:09 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: hybrid8]
Redrum
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Most of the people I know have under the cupboard electric openers.

The one I had often dropped the can or spilled juice all over the counter.



Edited by Redrum (11/04/2012 12:14)

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#351499 - 11/04/2012 16:58 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
Dignan
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I used to have an electric can opener. The idea was really neat. You basically attached it to the can like a regular can opener, and when you pressed down on the latch to cut into the lid, the thing would sort of "take off" and start running around the can by its self. If the can was heavy enough you could let go entirely and it would finish the job and wait for you to take it off.

But frankly, it was indeed hard to clean, and I got tired of charging it all the time. I'm much happier with the Oxo. I don't think I'd want one of those swing-away ones because I'd have to find a place for it that didn't bother me too much...
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#351500 - 11/04/2012 22:50 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Dignan]
gbeer
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Washable cutter electric opener on amazon.

Has chrome cutter that can be detached for washing.

Edit: Another brand still with removable cutter.

Most of the electric openers I reviewed on amazon had easy removable cutters for cleaning.


Edited by gbeer (11/04/2012 23:01)
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#351502 - 12/04/2012 00:10 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: gbeer]
msaeger
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Originally Posted By: gbeer
Washable cutter electric opener on amazon.

Has chrome cutter that can be detached for washing.

Edit: Another brand still with removable cutter.

Most of the electric openers I reviewed on amazon had easy removable cutters for cleaning.


It's good you can wash the cutter I was unaware they made them like that now. With the manual one I can throw the whole thing in the dishwasher though.
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#351508 - 13/04/2012 00:06 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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All the canned tuna talk made me want some so when I opened the can I looked more closely at my opener and it is in fact a swing a way.

If looks just like this one.
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#351514 - 13/04/2012 09:57 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: msaeger]
Redrum
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Thanks, I think I'll try to get a Swing-A-Way like yours tonight since I'm going to the big city and will be passing an Ace hardware store. Plus they aren't that expensive. Hopefully still good. If that doesn't work out I'll move on to a Leifheit or Victorinox. Leifheit's don't seem to have a big presents in the USA.

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#351515 - 13/04/2012 11:23 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
jmwking
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Another vote for the Swing-A-Way. My mother's has been around for ages (since I was a kid); mine is 15 years and counting. It just works.

-jk

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#351516 - 13/04/2012 12:07 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: jmwking]
Dignan
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Yeah, that's sort of the classic can opener in my mind. I have seen one of them last almost 20 years, but I've also seen one fall apart in my hands after just a few.
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#351517 - 13/04/2012 12:17 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Dignan]
Redrum
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Originally Posted By: Dignan
Yeah, that's sort of the classic can opener in my mind. I have seen one of them last almost 20 years, but I've also seen one fall apart in my hands after just a few.


I have a feeling the quality will probably not be as good as the old ones. It would probably be better if I could find one at a Good Will for 50 cents.

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#351518 - 13/04/2012 12:26 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Redrum]
hybrid8
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Universal opener, never gonna break:



Works on more than just cans.
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#351521 - 13/04/2012 15:06 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: hybrid8]
canuckInOR
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Originally Posted By: hybrid8
Universal opener, never gonna break:



Works on more than just cans.

Hard to misplace in the kitchen, too.

I can't believe no-one has suggested the P-38.

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#351523 - 13/04/2012 16:26 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: canuckInOR]
Tim
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The P-51 I linked up above is a larger version (by 13mm).

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#351527 - 13/04/2012 17:21 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Tim]
Redrum
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I've never saw or used one. I'm sure the wife would not atempt to open anythig using that.

Looks interesting. I think I'll get one for the RV at least.

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#351540 - 14/04/2012 14:31 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: canuckInOR]
Redrum
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OK, I bought a Swing-A-Way hand held (made in China, hope it's good) and off eBay a P-51 and P-38.

So look out cans!

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#351577 - 16/04/2012 20:48 Re: Manual Can Opener Recommendation? [Re: Tim]
canuckInOR
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Originally Posted By: Tim
The P-51 I linked up above is a larger version (by 13mm).

Doh. Missed that.

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