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#355605 - 11/10/2012 14:44 Re: New house pics [Re: hybrid8]
Roger
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Originally Posted By: hybrid8
The wooden construction typical in North America is most definitely because we have a great lumber supply.


One reason we don't do timber construction in the UK is that we used all of our trees to build ships, and then had to ransack North America to build more. Then we did what we do every night: take over the world.

Also, we have pretty good clay for bricks.
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#355606 - 11/10/2012 14:47 Re: New house pics [Re: Roger]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Roger
Also, we have pretty good clay for bricks.


Yes, our village used to be famous for it's bricks.

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#355607 - 11/10/2012 14:48 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
tahir
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Looks like I was way out on wall construction


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#355608 - 11/10/2012 14:49 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
BartDG
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Originally Posted By: tahir
Is it quite rare in Belgium to build to this standard? It certainly is in the UK

Yes, very. 95% of all new houses are still the standard buildings, which are insulated, but only to the point where they meet the standards set by law. Only very few people go through the trouble of investing more into their houses to make them consume less energy. The only thing people do is install stuff that is subsidised by the government (like PV panels), but hardly anything else.
The places to be for true passive houses are Germany and Austria. The standards set there are a lot stricter than over here. They actually go for something that is beyond passive houses: the zero-emission house, which is completely self-sustained.
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#355609 - 11/10/2012 14:51 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Archeon
Eg if aluminium windows are installed into a brick wall or when bricks are place directly onto a concrete screed. These cold bridges should be avoided at all cost because they'll drain the energy/heat from your house and drive up your heating costs considerably.


This was an area where the architect and builder spent a lot of time deciding how to detail to avoid cold bridging and leakage. I forgot to say our windows are wood clad externally with Aluminium

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#355610 - 11/10/2012 14:51 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Archeon
Yes, very. 95% of all new houses are still the standard buildings, which are insulated, but only to the point where they meet the standards set by law. Only very few people go through the trouble of investing more into their houses to make them consume less energy. The only thing people do is install stuff that is subsidised by the government (like PV panels), but hardly anything else.


Just like here then

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#355611 - 11/10/2012 14:53 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
BartDG
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Originally Posted By: tahir
Looks like I was way out on wall construction

Whoa! I say! 240mm of cellulose fiber and another extra 50mm after the OSB. No wonder it still feels relatively warm now. This indeed much closer meets the passive haus standard! Good for you! smile

This is a very good setup! The only thing I would do different is I would fill the void below the floor with polyurethane. It's very important to have a well insulated floor, more important even than well insulated walls.

But this is nit picking. The rest of the setup is awesome!

Originally Posted By: tahir

This was an area where the architect and builder spent a lot of time deciding how to detail to avoid cold bridging and leakage. I forgot to say our windows are wood clad externally with Aluminium

Good choice, this avoids cold bridges entirely. But I wanted aluminium windows per sé because of the zero maintenance. smile
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#355612 - 11/10/2012 14:57 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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The extra 50 was never installed, the airtightness barriers were all the other side of that so the architect/engineer decided they didn't need it

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#355613 - 11/10/2012 14:59 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Archeon
I would fill the void below the floor with polyurethane. It's very important to have a well insulated floor, more important even than well insulated walls.


We weren't allowed to, building regulations demanded a void and ventilation to the underside of the foundation to avoid radon buildup, even though we don't have any such risk here.

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#355614 - 11/10/2012 15:00 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Archeon

Originally Posted By: tahir

This was an area where the architect and builder spent a lot of time deciding how to detail to avoid cold bridging and leakage. I forgot to say our windows are wood clad externally with Aluminium

Good choice, this avoids cold bridges entirely. But I wanted aluminium windows per sé because of the zero maintenance. smile


Yeah, I looked at a Belgian supplier of Aluminium systems with really low U values but the house is so timber rich that it just felt wrong to use non timber windows.

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#355615 - 11/10/2012 15:03 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
BartDG
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Originally Posted By: tahir
Originally Posted By: Archeon
I would fill the void below the floor with polyurethane. It's very important to have a well insulated floor, more important even than well insulated walls.


We weren't allowed to, building regulations demanded a void and ventilation to the underside of the foundation to avoid radon buildup, even though we don't have any such risk here.

Radon buildup??? With simple concrete?? Never heard that one before. And here, all new houses have insulation underneath the concrete floor plate as well as on top. So I guess all new houses here are all Radon accidents waiting to happen? smile

Indeed, with the materials used I don't see how this could ever happen. These type of materials don't need ventilation. But hey building regulations, I know... don't get me started on those!

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#355616 - 11/10/2012 15:05 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Archeon
Radon buildup??? Never heard that one before. And indeed, with the materials used I don't see how this could ever happen. These materials don't need ventilation. Hey hey building regulations, I know... don't get me started on those!


It's an issue in some parts of the UK which sit on granite, radon seeps out of the ground so regs demand a ventilated substructure. We sit on solid clay but still had to follow the reg, apparently some places will let you build without a void but our officer wasn't interested in listening.

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#355617 - 11/10/2012 15:08 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
BartDG
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Originally Posted By: tahir

It's an issue in some parts of the UK which sit on granite, radon seeps out of the ground so regs demand a ventilated substructure. We sit on solid clay but still had to follow the reg, apparently some places will let you build without a void but our officer wasn't interested in listening.

Our ground here is clay as well. I wonder if that radon issue could be solved with a thick concrete floor plate. Probably not, because otherwise I'm sure they'd do it. (or not, because they're staring blindly at their building regulations...)
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#355618 - 11/10/2012 15:10 Re: New house pics [Re: BartDG]
tahir
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Originally Posted By: Archeon
I wonder if that radon issue could be solved with a thick concrete floor plate. Probably not, because otherwise I'm sure they'd do it. (or not, because they're staring blindly at their building regulations...)


I think the or not scenario is more likely

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#355619 - 11/10/2012 15:13 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
tahir
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This is the roof/wall junction, on the roof we have 300 + 150 insulation


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#355620 - 11/10/2012 15:19 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
BartDG
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Originally Posted By: tahir
This is the roof/wall junction, on the roof we have 300 + 150 insulation

Now, this is VERY nice! smile I wished I had done that as well, but my roof only offered space for 200mm of insulation. Still, the attic is not finished yet and I might lengthen the battens so I can add another 100mm or so, but I'm not sure yet.
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#355643 - 12/10/2012 14:17 Re: New house pics [Re: tahir]
andym
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Love it, insanely jealous!
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#355744 - 17/10/2012 10:39 Re: New house pics [Re: andym]
tahir
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Radon appears to be an issue in PHs:

http://www.aecb.net/forum/index.php/topic,3745.0.html

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