Nothing odd about the tracks in question, clean rips with AudioCatalyst. Allowing emplode to fix metadata problems seems to have fixed the problem.

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Unit serial number 47 (was 330 in the queue)...

I had the missing meta data problem as well... I let emplode fix it, and most are now fine.

However, a few of them showed something like "unable to extract frame data".
Now I have a number of tracks without a samplerate, and a few with really wacked out durations (some ~6 minute tracks showing as 50mins long!)

Can I force emplode to check them again (Is there any point, will it return the same value anyway?)

Jazz
(List 112, Mk2 12 gig #40. Mk1 4 gig #30. Mk3 1.6 16v)

The waving "Tux" on bootup is a beautiful touch. I'm still wandering through new features and such and no problems so far. I do miss the "old style" marquesas vis, the trails are okay but it'd be nice if they were optional. Oh well.

-Tony
MkII #554

Ack! Not only have I managed to lock up the player software...I've now crashed Emplode. After doing so, it gives me a database lock error when trying to select my player when starting Emplode again. Probably be fine when I reboot the player...

Here's what I did to cause Emplode to crash (if this helps)...
I used the "By Artist" listing and selected a misspelling of a band name (I had misspelled the band's name when tagging the MP3s). I selected all the MP3s in that view, and selected Properties to fix the artist name in the empeg database. I fixed it, clicked ok, and it seemed to work for a sec, and moved all the files into the group that already had the correct spelling, and then emplode.exe crashed.


- Chris
32GB MK2 090000664 Smoke
Queue # 2 (who the heck was 1?)

That's definitely a bug.

You would have been better off simply dragging the mis-named tracks into the correctly named area. Emplode will then ask you if you want to accept a fix to the tags, and do it for you if you give it permission. Try it No effort!

One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015

I would have tried that, had I known that was possible. My, that's a cool little feature there to keep in mind.

Re: the original problem...I tried to do the exact same thing a second time after opening the player again, and it work without problems. Don't you love bugs that you can't reproduce?

- Chris
32GB MK2 090000664 Smoke
Queue # 2 (who the heck was 1?)

The wacky duration is often caused when the player software fails to correctly read the VBR header of the file.

The most common cause for this is the presence of ID3V2 tags. These can be a pain in the arse, as they are attach to the front of the file, and the player has to try and work out where they finish, which it doesn't always do properly.

For now, I've stuck with just ID3V1 tags, as these are placed at the end of file.

To see if this is your problem, try playing the file in MediaPlayer 8. If it can't work out the proper length of the track either, then it's very likely that the ID3V2 tag is not quite right, and hence the player can't find the VBR header which should follow it.

Hope this helps,

Andy.

In the "Troubleshooting" section of the new FAQ at Riocar.org, there is a link to a program which will correct bad VBR headers.

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Tony Fabris

The waving "Tux" on bootup is a beautiful touch.

Thanks!

I do miss the "old style" marquesas vis, the trails are okay but it'd be nice if they were optional.

It is. Press the Select Mode button on the Rio Remote a few times.


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Tony Fabris

At least half of the files with the wacky duration have been VBR "fixed" by MP3 Tag Studio, which is why I am slightly concerned...

I'll try the other tools linked when I'm next running windows...

Jazz
(List 112, Mk2 12 gig #40. Mk1 4 gig #30. Mk3 1.6 16v)

Thanks? That was your idea? Great show, old chap!

As for the select mode, awesome. 'preciate the tip.

-Tony
MkII #554

So.. has the wonderful provider of the automatic volume adjustment kernels patched one up for 2.00b3 yet?

I'm not willing to give up that feature in my car,
as otherwise I've got to adjust the knob manually about
every 30 seconds or so to keep the level audible.

It would be nice to have this magic feature only active
when in car mode, though.. I suppose I could hack that
together if no one else does.

There are at least a couple of tools for fixing bad VBR headers, including my Linux utility "mp3tool", available from http://rtr.ca/empeg

That was your idea?

Not my idea, just my animation files.

They put the code in there for animations, but didn't really have any art to put there. Rob asked me if I "knew anyone" who did animations. I suspect he wasn't really asking me for a reference...

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Tony Fabris

AAAGGGHHRR!!

It's here and I forgot to bring my serial cable from work!!!

Oh God this is horrible!

Murray
new styleee

I'm not willing to give up that feature in my car

On that note, I wouldn't mind the knobappend and menusort programs available for this version. I miss having my playlists of playlists displayed in the order of my choosing.

Come to think of it..it would have been cool to see that included as an optional feature of 2.0..but then there ain't nothing left of that dead horse, now...is there?

- Chris
32GB MK2 090000664 Smoke
Queue # 2 (who the heck was 1?)

I wouldn't mind the knobappend and menusort programs available for this version.

Knobappend is now built into the software. It works a little differently (better) than the hack version. Check the release notes.

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Tony Fabris

Knobappend is now built into the software. It works a little differently (better) than the hack version. Check the release notes

You know...I read that in the prerelease release notes, and it slipped my mind. Yeah..this works much better than the hack version.

Now about that menusort hack...

- Chris
32GB MK2 090000664 Smoke
Queue # 2 (who the heck was 1?)

I've got a couple of kernels, but I've got no way of publishing them on the web until maybe tonight (another 14 hours), or possibly the weekend.

Is there anyone who can publish something immediately? I'll mail you the stuff.

Oh, by the way, the ioctl has changed back to 2 again, so if you've using a program to change the voladj parameters with 1.03, you might need to recompile it with 2 instead of 3. I _think_ the empeg guys kindly left a gap in their ioctl numbering for this. :) Thanks guys!

Richard.

If you need a site to put up the custom kernels,
I can host them for a day/week no problem.

email 'em to me at [email protected] (no size limits).

I'll gladly host them at riocar.org. I'll e-mail you privatly about getting an admin account on the site for future use.

Richard's volume adjustment kernels for 2.00beta3 can now be downloaded from http://rtr.ca/empeg/

Not I but I did download and install.

The only word is WOW. I am going to hide away for a couple of days now and just play. One question, why are they called Wendy Filters? I haven't been keeping up with the BBS like I know I should.

Greg

One question, why are they called Wendy Filters?

Once apon a time there was a Wendy who didn't share Hugo's musical tastes. Wendy eventually left, but filters remained .

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green

why are they called Wendy Filters?

Former girlfriend of Hugo's. He conceived the idea because she hated certain parts of his music collection.

I'm still waiting for the day when the player is can be notified by serial port connection of the approximate weight of the person in the passenger seat. Then it can tell the difference between my friend Tod and my wife, and activate the appropriate Wendy filter automatically.

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Tony Fabris

WOW WOW WOW....Kudos to everybody who worked so hard on v2. I haven't been able to put my player away for hours tonight. Thanks again all, it was well worth the wait for all of these new goodies :>

Technoweenie
12 GB Blue / Grey MK II

In reply to:

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You need to use emplode to add a Codec tag to all your files so it knows what format they're in. Some old versions (probably pre-1.0 but I haven't checked) of emplode didn't put them in.

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A majority of my mp3s seem to be in this state. Can I fix this globally with emptool?
Or, just manually add it to all my *1 files, and rebuild the db? Hey, I'll try that:

$ for foo in /drive[01]/fids/*1 ; do grep ^codec $foo || grep ^type=tune $foo && echo codec=mp3 >> $foo ; done

Then, rebuilt the db. Now, I can play all my mp3s. Yay.

There's probably an easier way to do this, but this way worked for me.

*thinking* That is such a good idea . . . Only problem is the g'friend is pregnant so her weight is now SIGNIFICANTLY different than it was a couple of months ago. But I am sure I could write a small shell script to handle that problem.

*seeing the input device now*
Wendy Filter -> Girlfriend
Please input Weight?
Pregnant?
How many Months?


Greg

Now, this is what I am going to miss in future car disk-based players!

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green

arrrrghhhhhh, iv'e been drooling all day at work I haven't got my player here!!!.....so I'll have to wait till tonight, also bin refreshing this page every 5 secs, interesting checking out who has problems etc...
anyway while im playing with it tonight most of you will be asleep :)

Jaidev