Hi,
I've got my new RioCar Mk2As, and as part of the 'set up proces' I want to make my RioCar have the Waving Tux animation like my empegs have.

I've searched the FAQ and the forum here without much success - I recall a discussion about this some time ago I also looked at the FAQ & RioCar.org and couldn't find it.

Anyway, if someone can point this out to me - I'm sure some of our new RioCar owners may like to see the waving tux animation when they boot their empegs too.

Grab Tony's logo editor from the downloads on RioCar.org. Open it, go to "File, Select your player type". Ensure it says empeg, then do a "File, Delete logos from player"

Thats the easiest way.

also make sure you're running v2 of player and emplode. this intro is not on v1.x

Done all that and it works fine.

Can we get this in the FAQ for next time?

Can we get this in the FAQ for next time?

It's already in the FAQ. Right here. Been there for months.

You're right Tony,
And I read that section aty least twice before I post *AND* I searched the FAQ for Waving Tux (with no luck).

That last sentence in the FAQ explains it - perhaps we should make a reference to Waving Tux in that sentence as thats what most people change the official boot logo to if they change it at all, that way it would show up in FAQ searches related to waving tux.

I think its good that some of the newer folks here realise that they don't have to live with the Rio animation on start up and can easily change it to the reallly, really cool Waving Tux animation in about 15 seconds.

You guys are going to shoot me, but I just changed my year old (I joined almost exactly a year ago!) empeg to the Rio boot up logo ... just for a change. And I wanted somthing a little less... cartoony for a few weeks.

but I just changed my year old (I joined almost exactly a year ago!) empeg to the Rio boot up logo ... just for a change

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

(heh heh heh.. HTML works now... This could be a bad thing.)

perhaps we should make a reference to Waving Tux in that sentence

Good idea. Will do.

(heh heh heh.. HTML works now... This could be a bad thing.)

It always has, except in the Off Topic form when it was initially created. I still use the HTML tags for my quotes most of the time instead of UBB code.

"Fill out the form below to post a message on the forum. HTML is enabled. UBBCode is enabled, so you may use UBBCode in your posts"

The one cool thing about UBBCode I've noticed is that if you use the (url) tags, it automatically does the right thing to make the link pop open in a new window.

Woohoo! No more Rio logos in my player! Walking-up-sitting-and-waving tux is way more cool/friendly.

I didn't see a menu option to remove the logo on the outside of the case...

when i try to do this it says either "couldn't find manufacturer ID" or "couldn't find product ID"

it makes me unplug/plug the unit every time i try too

any suggestions?

joe

blank

Make sure the Com port is set right in the logo program, and that you have any other devices using a com port turned off (like a modem, or Palm Sync software). Have you been able to do an upgrade on the unit? Also, try connecting with Hyperterminal to see if you can watch the bootup messages on the empeg. This should help to determain if it's a com port problem.

yeah i have no problem connecting, whether for flash upgrade or to start the logo process. i get to the message
-----------------------------------------------
- READY TO BEGIN SENDING DATA -
- -
- The player should reboot and the data -
- transfer should begin automatically. If -
- this doesn't happen within the next few -
- seconds, then do the following: -
- -
- UNPLUG the power from the empeg car player, -
- then PLUG IT IN again to begin the data -
- transfer process. -
- -
- Please do this now. -
-----------------------------------------------

then i cycle power

then i get this:

found empeg unit: entering program mode

Error: Couldn't find manufacturer ID!

Press the Enter key to continue.

i have hyperterminal (as well as secureCRT) but i don't know how to connect with them. i tried a com1 session with HTerminal and it counted up the connected clock but the cursor just hung in the upper left ... nothing happened and it didn't respond when i typed "ls" for example

what's wrong with my empeg?

joe

I've had problems with HyperTerminal wher it won't see the data coming from the empeg if you ``Connect'' before you plug the empeg in. So try clicking connect after you plug in the empeg. I don't have this problem with SecureCRT. But my version of SecureCRT seems to have a problem with sending ZModem in that it's really slow (like 100 Bytes/sec).

i have hyperterminal (as well as secureCRT) but i don't know how to connect with them. i tried a com1 session with HTerminal and it counted up the connected clock but the cursor just hung in the upper left ... nothing happened and it didn't respond when i typed "ls" for example

Assuming you set the correct options in hyperterminal, then the problem lies with the COM port, the PC's settings, or the cabling. You should be able to see what you're typing at the shell prompt.

If Hyperterminal won't work then the logo editor won't work either, as they use the same communication method.

Try it on a different computer and see if it works.

i have tried it from 3 different PC's with the same result. it DOES recognize the empeg, and it does flash upgrades like a champ, so i'm inclined to think it has nothing to do with the COM port or the cable.

should i give up?

But at the very least Hyperterminal should work.

If you can do full player upgrades but Hypterterminal does not work, I don't see how that can be? I would think it would be the other way around.

Now there is a known problem on some computers with the "download.c" code (which I did not write by the way) where it doesn't work on some systems. Someone else had a version of download.c that was slower because it printed debugging information to the screen, and that slowed it down enough to work on their system. Unfortunately, I am waiting for someone who's having that problem to mess with different timings in download.c, and find out exactly where the delay needs to be inserted, before I make any changes to my copy in the logo editor. I can't reproduce the bug so I can't experiment with it myself.

when i connect via hyper, i get a few meesages, like this:

dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57

and a blinking cursor. but if i type anything on the keyboard, such as ls, nothing happens.

when i cycle power i get this:

empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg50 ([email protected]) (gcc versi
on 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #5 Sat Dec 22 10:18:24 GMT 2001
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102792)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005c00).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:0a:e
8
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k init player.cpp : 550:empeg-car 2.00-be
ta7 (internal) 2001/12/22.
dhcp_thread.cpp : 413:name = lo
dhcp_thread.cpp : 414:index = 1
dhcp_thread.cpp : 415:flags = 0x8
dhcp_thread.cpp : 416:addr = 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 417:bcast = 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 418:mask = 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 413:name = eth0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 414:index = 2
dhcp_thread.cpp : 415:flags = 0x1002
dhcp_thread.cpp : 416:addr = 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 417:bcast = 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 418:mask = 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 886:Our mac is 00:02:d7:26:0a:e8
dhcp_thread.cpp : 888:Current IP address is 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 890:Broadcast address is 0.0.0.0
dhcp_thread.cpp :1930:Attempting to open Autonet socket for eth0
dhcp_thread.cpp : 478:Adding interface eth0
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1987:Testing Autonet address 169.254.101.198
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1335 Dec 22 2001
Vcb: 0x408cd000
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
! mp3_decoder.cpp :1052:Failed to seek to offset 1677640, error=0xc0044000
! mp3_decoder.cpp :1047:Failed to find valid sync after seeking to offset 1677
640, error=0xc0044000
spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 292:Filling up space (109)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1987:Testing Autonet address 169.254.101.198
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1987:Testing Autonet address 169.254.101.198
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57
dhcp_thread.cpp :1447:Sending DHCP discover (eth0)
dhcp_thread.cpp :1425:Extensions present: 61 53 55 57

but still no reaction to typing ls[enter] or N[enter]

That's very strange. You are able to receive characters from the player but are not able to send them. Are you absolutely sure your hyperterminal settings are correct? Triple-check that FAQ entry I linked.

And you say that you CAN perform upgrades? Because if you can, that's very VERY strange because the upgrades need to send a lot of characters to the serial port and they have to work.

the only changes i made to default HTerm settings are:

115200 rate
no flow control

my AIM name is joe lira if anyone wants to walk me thru it. maybe there's some Hterm setting i don't know about that is disabling sending chars? i'll go look for a different shareware terminal program and try that out

joe

It won't respond to 'ls' because it's not sat at a shell prompt. Press 'q' followed by Enter to quit the player and bring up the shell prompt.

If that doesn't work, then something else is wrong.

ok i tried it with SecureCRT. i can get a connection and see all the messages from the machine but i get an error



when i hit [enter] . what this error means, i have no idea.

It won't respond to 'ls' because it's not sat at a shell prompt.

Yeah, but it's not even echoing back the "L" and the "S" to him. Even if those commands did nothing, he should at least be able to see them echo on the screen, and he's not even getting THAT.

And he said that N doesn't work either.

Might want to check you dont have scroll lock on, on your keyboard - it wouldnt recognise anything i typed earlier today and i finally realised this was the problem.

As for the logoedit error, im not sure, but this is the same error i got when my home docking station serial connection was wired incorrectly, so maybe you have a bad serial cable?

Yep, I'm using a version of download.c with the debug code in and running from the command prompt. Can't remeber who was nice enough to put it together, but can go and have a look if you want. It works *most* of the time, whereas the logo editor never works for flashing kernals. Sometimes I have to try it a number of times though, and it almost seems I have to plug in the empeg at just the right moment. Haven't tried playing with logos yet.

I have a Mk 2 empeg, and the PC is an older twin processor PIII 600 (Gigabyte board). I guess I could get really keen and do some testing if you want. Have M$ Visual Studio 6 here, and at least some of the cygwin stuff, but I might need some tips on how to get download.c to compile on a Windoze box.

It works *most* of the time, whereas the logo editor never works for flashing kernals.

Careful of your semantics, there. Logo editor works most of the time for most people, from what I gather. I think you meant to say it never works for you.

Do you have the ability to re-compile Download.C and experiment with it? I need someone who can reproduce the problem reliably to locate the fault.

Yeah, sorry Tony, flashing kernels in LogoEditor never works for me.

I shouldn't have toooo many problems compiling download.c here at work, but I haven't tried it yet. There is a small problem regarding time to do it at the mo though as I am in the process of hunting for another job among other things. If I get a chance to look at it I will post back here.

I didn't see a menu option to remove the logo on the outside of the case...

It's called nail polish remover under 'options'!!!

I had a lot of issues with my PC (with Windows ME at the time) - I could synch and install upgrade files, but logo uploading worked 1 time out of 10 and MLord's patches never worked. After checking everything on my PC many times, I used a version of download.c for COM2 (which was identically set up to COM1) and now everything works. I could find no sensible reason for it - no resource clashes, the ports all work fine for other apps etc.
So I would recommend trying another port just to see if it works:)

sorry to be anticlimactic but i tried with a different cable (it actually has THREE 25-to-9-and-back adapters on it) and it worked fine.

this same cable failed previously on a different machine, and a different cable failed on this machine. so who knows, but consider it case closed.

thanks for the help

joe

> > perhaps we should make a reference to Waving Tux in that sentence

> Good idea. Will do.


Another suggestion is to mention that "deleting" logos from the empeg/rio car WON'T delete the built-in ones. I was going to do this, but then decided that I'd rather have the RIO logo rather than NO logo because it wasn't entirely clear that the "delete" option in the logo tool would only delete custom logos.

Now I know, but only after this thread.