I was pondering this the other day, and there is this intersting phenomenon that I think exists. A guy can drive a chick car around, and won't really be noticed. But if a chick is driving a guy car around, the chick *will* be noticed and gawked at. For example, if you see a chick in a Viper or even a lowered riced out car just zipping along the highway, it would be likely to cause an accident. But if a *guy* is driving a chick car, then it's like nothing out of the ordinary is occurring.

I think this is related to the phenomenon that when a woman is out on the street wearing articles of mens clothing, that is not out of the ordinary. But if a man is wearing articles of womens clothing, then the same phenomenon occurs. What's interesting is the gender roles are reversed with cars.

My theory is, clothing and fashion is considered to be in the feminine "domain" and cars, particularly guy cars, are in the masculine "domain" -- hence, with few exceptions, a chick can wear anything pretty much, and a guy can drive anything pretty much.

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Calvin

Im sorry but that SHO would have its ass handed to it by me on the track.

Huh?

Calvin

Aquasqurrel just challenged Doug Burnside to the quarter mile, I think.

The question is, will he drive to Alaska to do the actual competition?

Are they going to do the quarter mile on a glacier???

Calvin

actually I wasnt referring to a quartermile but Id still probably beat him. Im refering to a road course. And Im sorry the an SHOs handling and braking cannot touch that of a Type-R

And Im sorry the an SHOs handling and braking cannot touch that of a Type-R

If you think your Type R can dust a SHO, imagine how badly it will dust my wagon with the extra 150 pounds, longer wheelbase, etc. No contest there. But unless you have the boost on your turbo cranked up to short-engine-life levels, I think you would be astonished at how hard you would have to work to get away from me on anything other than an all-out race on a tight track.

What I have is a true sleeper. Nobody would ever look at a Taurus station wagon and think it was fast.

tanstaafl.

Im running a light 7 pounds of boost right now and well I pulled a 12.7sec 1/4. yes turbo might shorten the life span of my engine but itll still last longer than anything coming from detroit

but itll still last longer than anything coming from detroit

Oh, like one of those Deetroit Ya-Ma-Has?

I dunno, Doug, I don't think you'll ever see this boy in Alaska for the showdown. Sounds like a case of all valves and no pistons, if you...get...my...drift.

Yeah I know I know the SHO engine is a Yahama engine and to be quite honest I find it humerous that an american car company went with a Japanese engine for their perfomance car. Ask me any question about a car and ill answer I bought the type-R because it truely is a engineering masterpiece

Im running a light 7 pounds of boost right now and well I pulled a 12.7sec 1/4.

7 pounds isn't exactly light!

If you can turn 12.7 quarter miles, then you're way out of my league. Tell you what, though -- I'll bet I can get to the hardware store and back with a load of lumber faster than you can!

but itll still last longer than anything coming from detroit

I think not. It is quite common for, say, a Chevy small-block V-8 to go 150,000, 200,000 miles without major problems. And the SHO V-6 in my wagon is usually considered to be good for 200,000 miles. Of course, that is a Yamaha-designed and built engine...

tanstaafl.

Ask me any question about a car and ill answer

Okay... Let's say you have a 3.8 liter in-line 6-cylinder engine whose bore and stroke are the same. What would the bore and stroke measurements (in either inches or millimeters, your choice) actually be? And what would be the general effect on performance if the ratio of bore to stroke were changed?

Yeah, I know, I'm a smart-ass. But let's see if you have the math and the knowledge to work it out? (Oh, yes, and show your work, please) I mean, you're the one who issued the challenge! Ask me any question...

tanstaafl.

I have no doubt that the Type-R is an absolute engineering masterpiece and is the only car that any thoughtful person would ever choose to drive.

You'll have to forgive me. I'm just teasing you on behalf of all the "hot ass chick and gay looking guys" out there. I know you won't drive to Alaska. Gas prices haven't dropped *that* much.

If I were a better man I *wouldn't* tease you. But I'm not a better man.

Hmmm.. Getting confused here?

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Haha I hope your not talking about me and my integra. I might add my car has no stickers on it. Its not a type-R nor do I claim it to be. It just a regular LS 1.8 liter. Last fall I finally had the money to buy a Drag Gen 3 turbo kit, and well my car is faster than most v8s, but I dont brag about it.

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Ask me any question about a car and ill answer I bought the type-R because it truely is a engineering masterpiece

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So, I'll ask you a question about a car. Namely, yours. You have a LS, don't claim it to be a Type-R, but have a Turbo running 7 Lbs.

Now, you have a Type-R.

Make up your mind.

Uhoh. Looks like aqua has talked himself into a corner.

The engine is an LS engine not.........I blew the R engine that came with the car when I was running 15 pounds of boost I know it was stupid but oh well. I couldnt afford another Type-R engine at the time since the cost about 5 grand. So since it doesnt have what makes a type-R a type-R the engine I dont call it one.

12.7 quarter mile with 1.8 liter on turbo? Are you sure that's not the 1/8 mile? Have you ever actually run it at the strip? I'll have to see that to believe it. Dodge Vipers run around 12.5. Are you saying you can hang with a V-10 Viper in that little 4-banger?

fusto, did you try checking the loudness setting?

My VW Golf GTi Turbo was a top car for the twisty stuff round here. I only traded it in 'cos I found I could afford an Impreza after a change of jobs:)
Not staggeringly feminine, I have to say.

Well, if you were born in a small island community where some families own their own islands racing becomes a pretty safe (from intruding police types) game.
Okay, you do occasionally have to use non standard exit routes from the car if you roll too much, but hey, you learn how NOT to do it again

Oh, and over here standard commute speed is 85mph anyway (is that the same in the US?). Motorway racing is a bit tricky, as you'll get banned if caught over 100, so the only really fun stuff is the twisty bits in the highlands, borders, dales and Wales, as you can stay under the speed limit and still push things.
Although on my latest run up to John'O'Groats I was sitting at a fun speed (with still a wee margin for error as it was snowing) and a CityLink coach shot past me like I was sitting still.

Erm...frightening!

On the same topic this page demonstrates a wonderful little VW sleeper. Twin engines, max speed of 193mph for hillclimbs.

Heh heh - yup it is silly!

Oh, and over here standard commute speed is 85mph anyway (is that the same in the US?). Motorway racing is a bit tricky, as you'll get banned if caught over 100, so the only really fun stuff is the twisty bits in the highlands, borders, dales and Wales, as you can stay under the speed limit and still push things.

Point taken.

I see now where the excitement comes from. Always having that cold sweat feeling in the back of your neck that you might get caught by the police (or not).

Boy, how boring it is - compared to you guys - to zoom along on the German autobahn at 240 clicks an hour (~150mph) and it being perfectly legal.

Georg

Oh, and over here standard commute speed is 85mph anyway (is that the same in the US?).

Nah, they drive really slowly over there. In fact you can't really call it driving - cruise controlled along an interstate a mile wide at 65MPH if you're lucky. The only sport is in avoiding the potholes.

I got accused of being a fast driver last time I was over there, by certain members of this BBS! That's patently untrue!

Rob

I always try to take backroads instead of the highways so that I'm actually doing something while driving long distances. It usually increases the actual time, but it makes it feel much shorter. Plus there's things to look at along the way besides a million other cars and a narrow strip of trees on either side of the interstate. But, then again, my wife claims she gets carsick on those windy roads, so I don't usually get to actually do this.

> In fact you can't really call it driving - cruise controlled along an interstate a mile wide at 65MPH if you're lucky.

And that only happened in the last 10 years. It used to be you couldn't drive faster than 55mph in the entire country.

Of course, on L.A. freeways I often don't get above 20.

sure it's possible.. you have to remember, if you consider an integra has a curb weight of 1100kg, and a viper is somewhere around 1500kg.. that's 1/4 less weight.. 400kg, or 900 or so pounds.. you also have to consider the rotating mass of a 10cyl engine, it takes a lot more time and energy to get that from 1k to 5k RPM. (remember that the v10 cant' spin out past 6k RPM)

I used to be able to top 160mph on the roads between Cambridge & St Albans, where my (then) gf lived - only for a short bit, though, but even that part isn't a straight. What's the point of a NSX if you don't use it sometimes?

(disclaimer: very late at night, no traffic, etc)

Just revenge for the 4 speed cameras they have along other bits of the route... most of the time I'm going less than 60

Hugo

4-bangers w. turbo beat Vipers at the track all the time. Esp. all-wheel drive ones like the Mitsu Eclipse..... The difference, is that after that 1/4 mile, the Vipers start to pull away. But only so much trackion is available on a Viper.

That's too easy. I do think you're being a little tricky by stating in-line 6 cyl engine though.

Calvin