Has anyone ever tried this, or have any info on what would be required or how hard it would be to install either the MK1, MK2 or the RioCar?

I haven't tried this myself, but I have a '68 Mustang.

I guess it depends on how you want to install it. The Mustang doesn't exactly have a normal DIN slot. I suppose you could try to craft your own bezel/frame so that the Empeg would fit in the factory slot, but I think that would be a total pain in the ass.

First, I'd recommend checking out the custom made stereos that are designed to fit in the factory stereo slot. Kenwood makes a bunch. I also believe Pioneer and Jensen even have ones too. I can get some links to these, if you'd like.

I'd contact the manufacturers and find out if any of the stereos support AUX-in. I find it pretty unlikely, but it's worth a shot. Otherwise, you'll probably have to run that stereo into the Empeg and let the Empeg be the primary head unit.

Now comes the other problem...where to mount the Empeg. My current stereo install (which was done by the previous owner) consists of the head unit just sitting on the hump between the two seats, directly under the dash. The owner put some velcro on the bottom of the sled to keep it in place. Not the nicest of solutions, but it works. A slightly better solution that I can think of off the top of my head is to get one of the "hump huggers" or other consoles that sit on the hump in between the two seats. Then, you could see about mounting the empeg into there.

Hope that helps.

Here's a pic of one of the Kenwood radios (model 501).

And it seems they make an empty bezel. If you're really good with your tools, I suppose you could try to trim the bezel so that the empeg could fit inside it.

oooo. That's pretty cool. If you took a dremmel to that, you could almost surely make the empeg fit in there. You might have to fit some mounting brackets to the back of the sled to secure it... but that would look damn nice. Go for it!

Here's my rendition of what it might look like...



I think I'm inspired to do this myself now...



It's only $49.95 from here:

ttp://www.restoremustangs.com/

Nice. You'd have to create a new back panel.. but some ABS plastic could make a quick job of that.

You could go one of two ways...modify the panel in the bezel to match the empeg, or modify the empeg fascia to match the panel. The problem is that the black in the radio bezel matches the rest of the Mustang trim. So, most likely I'd want to modify the empeg fascia. I could either go the paint way (like I've seen a few people do), or do the full custom fascia. I wonder if anybody would be interested in making one for me...The color and texture is referred to as "black camera case".

If anybody is interested, here's a link to a few pics of my car. I've since buffed out the oxidation, so the color looks pretty good again. Still tons of work to do on it, though. First thing to do is get a new engine, followed by a new top.

http://www.pbase.com/svferris/my_mustang_project_car

That's a long way since the 1-speaker AM radio that was in my 71' 302 Grande Mustang.

Nice cars guys!

Sfverris.. you rock my friend..
I have a '66 I have been restoring..and have three empeg's..
One of each version, the MKI, MKII, and the RioCar.
I have one of the kenwood stereos in the car right now, and want to put one of these in there.
I really appreciate your help on this, now the other question would be, how to wire it up and connect it to the factory speaker system, or should I just install a new speaker system?

I don't think it's worth trying to wire it to the "factory" system. The "factory" system (in my car at least) consists of one speaker in the center of the dash. I have to be honest that it sounds pretty good for being over 30 years old. Besides the speaker, I think there's one small power cable and an antenna. That's it. Nothing to really run an Empeg on.



My suggestion is to install an amp under one of the front seats (this is how mine is). You can then run the wires under the carpet or along the side of the car to the front. A couple different companies (including Pioneer) make some nice speakers which install as kick panels under the dash. This will give you good sound without having to do any modifications.



Here's a couple of websites where you can get Mustang parts:



http://www.ilovemymustang.com/

http://www.orangecoastonline.com/mustang.htm

http://www.restoremustangs.com/

http://www.karmustang.com/default.html

http://www.larrysmustang.com/

http://www.l-i-mustang.com/index.html

http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/



Quite a few of these will send you a free catalog.

sweet...
this should help in the conversion and conversation process..:)
you are about 24 right?

Yeah, 24.

If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a message.

Where are you on your restoration? The quick and dirty on my car is that I got it when I was 15. We spent a year restoring it, doing little things like cleaning up the interior, painting the engine compartment, rebuilding the carb and cleaning up the trunk. The engine ran pretty good, so we left that alone. I drove it for about 5 years while I was in high school and college. The engine started going, so I stopped driving it and garaged it.

Now, I want to start by getting the engine rebuilt so that the car is driveable again. I recently started it up and drove it around. Wasn't running too bad...think I might have to try driving it some more. But, it's not registered, so I don't want to go much farther than my parking lot or down to the gas station. After the engine, it needs a new top, interior and paint job. I suppose I should start saving up money...but things like the empeg come along and *poof*, there goes my money.

yeah, that's cool, I am 25 about to be 26 in april...
I have had my mustang for about 3 years, and the darn thing keeps blowing the straight 6 motors.
Just recently in fact.
So, we are taking it from a stock 6 to a v8, converting the whole trainy and suspension system..
It's almost daunting what my oldest brother and I have to do to it, but it should be worth it in the long run..
I think I may even have some pictures up on the web somewhere..(note to self..look...)
I will be taking pics if I decide to put the empeg in..
anyway....

Ahh, you have a straight 6 too, huh? Mine is the straight 6, 200 cu. in. It's the stock motor. Since it's a convertible, I'll probably keep it stock. Not really meant to be a racing car or anything. Plus, I get a discount on insurance having the 6.

I've heard it's not too hard converting from the straight 6 to a 289 or even 302 V8. Some people said you have to do the suspension system, while others said it was optional. But, I think it's good you're doing everything. You'll have to let me know how it goes.

Only conversion I'm considering is a power convertible top. But, it runs like $1000 to do the kit, and I don't think it's worth it. I'll just have to learn to put the top down properly without pinching it and causing holes.

lord, I could right a manuscript with what he and I have done to this thing..
We have had two of those engines blow up on me, while i was driving, first one, the radiator failed, the second one..(at the beginning of this month...) had the oil pump fail..
totally sucks..
as far as the suspension..it depends on what the car came with to begin with..
if you have disc brakes and something else, you don't have to do anything.
if you have the standard drums, you have to change them if you want disk brakes.
the rear end also has to be changed to handle the higher torgue off the engine and tranny..
(and to think i am not even a mechanic)
he..anyway..

Gotta love these engines...

I had a water pump go bad on mine. Was driving down the freeway in traffic. Going maybe 20 miles an hour. All of a sudden there was a loud grinding sound followed by tons of smoke/steam coming from my hood. I quickly pulled off onto the shoulder (I was right next to it anyways).

Basically, my water pump blew...and since the fan is connected to the water pump, it shot the fan straight into my radiator. The fan was spinning fast enough that it basically cut a circle into the radiator, causing the entire contents to spill out all over the ground. Was pretty crazy...

I had the first one blow on the 395 bridge crossing from miami into south beach.
Then the last one, at the beginning of this month, I was 2 miles from my brothers house..
Needless to say, the v8 is in perfect time..

You should see the pictures I just got developed from when the last straight 6 engine blew...I will try to scan them tonight or tomorrow and post them online...
I will also post the info when I get the empeg unit in the car.:)

I guess I need to post those pics soon, huh?

Anytime...no rush.

Here are a couple of "bad" pics of my mustang..yeah I know I am slow..

and here again

not my car..
but god..

Cool. Looks pretty nice.

I've been working on my car a bit recently. I'm trying to find the source of a knock and overall bad performance (rough idling and whatnot). I pulled out the radiator, fan, pulley, etc. to get at my timing chain because my Dad thought I screwed it up when I replaced it years ago. Looked fine to me when I opened it up, though. The two dots lined up on the gears. So, now I'm going to pull the oil pan and take a look into the engine. I recently removed the head and everything looked fine. The rods all looked good. Maybe a view from the bottom will give a new perspective on the situation.

I think my Dad's trying to push me into rebuilding the engine myself. It would save me quite a bit of money, but I'm not sure I want to do it on my own. I got a quote of $2500 to have it done by a professional Mustang place.

So, I'm not sure what to do. If I find something obviously wrong when I pull the oil pan, I can try fixing it. But, most likely the engine just needs to get rebuilt.

If I find something obviously wrong when I pull the oil pan, I can try fixing it.

Not a chance.

The only things you could find wrong by pulling the pan would be of a sufficiently serious nature that removing the engine and completely disassembling it would be required.

tanstaafl.

If I find something obvious like a bad rod, piston, etc., couldn't that get replaced without having to rebuild the entire engine?

If I find something obvious like a bad rod, piston, etc., couldn't that get replaced without having to rebuild the entire engine?

No.

If you find a "bad rod", you are really talking about a bad connecting rod bearing. This will inevitably have damaged the crankshaft. To repair the crankshaft it must be removed and taken to a machine shop for re-surfacing. Removing the crankshaft requires complete disassembly of the engine. (OK, technically you could remove the crankshaft by leaving the upper parts of the connecting rods and the pistons in place (with the engine out of the car, of course) but no qualified mechanic would do so except under the most unusual circumstances.)

The only way you would find a "bad piston" is by removing the cylinder heads and the oil pan, and removing each piston/connecting rod assembly. If the piston were bad enough to be knocking, it will have inevitably have damaged the cylinder wall. Repairing this would require complete disassembly of the engine and taking the engine block to a machine shop for re-boring. This will also require all new (oversize) pistons.

The only way you would ever replace a single piston or connecting rod bearing is if you planned on reassembling the engine, filling it full of high viscosity oil, and then immediately selling it somebody who lived at least three states away from you.

There is no mechanical failure requiring removal of the oil pan that does not also require complete disassembly of the engine. If you are going to go to that much time and effort, it would be foolish not to do a complete overhaul of the engine at the same time.

I don't know how to say this without sounding like I am a snob talking down to you... but if you don't know this kind of information, you should probably not be thinking about taking your engine apart without an experienced mechanic at your side to offer guidance.

tanstaafl.

The good thing about my mustang, is I am finally putting front disc brakes in. Plus I found a site that documents the conversion to rear disc brakes as well.
Sadly enough, the original stock inline 6 motor will never touch this machine again. BTW, the V8 works great. My brother had a problem with the drive shaft being a tad too long from the 67 falcon. It's now cut, sandblasted and painted.
From what he has been telling me it's running phenomenally.
Here I am stuck in atlanta, while it's at south beach almost every day. Oh the tragedy.

I'm surprised I didn't see this thread before. I am a major Mustang fan and before I got my "luxury mustang" (Lincoln Mark VII LSC) I used to own a 67 Mustang GT.

The bezel your showing here is for a 67/68 and won't fit his car.
The 64.5-66 models had the radio up higher and mounted in the actual metal of the dash, not in a bezel that then itself mounted to the dash. It was more like the cars from the 50's.

They do make a custom patch panel for modern DIN radio that can be sectioned into the dash. It's a little bit of work but it will look like it belongs there though.

Here's a link to a friends mustang you might like.

http://home.fuse.net/cctv/mustang.html

AL

Is that for real? Or custom made?

Calvin

Ford didn't make a mustang wagon, it's got a top off an LTD wagon i believe. He built it about 30 years ago, there's probabably less than 5 mustang wagons in the US and he built 3 of them. It was in several magazines back in the 70's.

Alan

but if you don't know this kind of information, you should probably not be thinking about taking your engine apart without an experienced mechanic at your side to offer guidance.

Heh, that's what I've been trying to tell my Dad. If he lived near me (hell, in the same country as me), then I'd have him help me. He's currently busy restoring a '29 Model A.

With something as important as the engine, I'd want to leave that to an expert.

rebuilding an engine isnt that hard. Ive rebuilt/help rebuild 7 engines and Im 19. 4 of these engines came from Japan and 2 of them were JDM(Japanese Domestic Market) not that makes a difference but still. As long a you have a very good shop manual not one of those crappy haynes ones Im talking the Helms manuals then it should go smoothly given you have all the tools. Couple tips have a lot of plastic baggies and a good sharpie because you will want to keep up with everything. Few things are better than having an engine start up after you rebuilt it yourself.

rebuilding an engine isnt that hard.

Yes it is.

Unless you think that replacing the rod and main bearings plus slapping a new set of rings into it is rebuilding the engine.

I used to think I was a pretty good mechanic -- that rebuilding an engine was just a matter of putting in new parts and tightening all the bolts and nuts to the proper torque values. Then I spent some time with a factory-trained Mercedes Benz mechanic with 20 years experience, and believe me, that was an eye opener. The things he knew that weren't in the manuals...

tanstaafl.

The things he knew that weren't in the manuals...

Exactly. I have a friend who really knows his stuff. He had offered to help me rebuild the engine a while back. But he's been having some problems with his old camaro, so I don't think I'll be getting his help for a while.

I'm perfectly comfortable doing just about everything else on my car. I've rebuilt the carb, installed a new timing chain, set the timing by hand (without a gun), etc. But, I'll probably end up leaving the rebuild to a professional.

do you know who makes the custon panel?

Give me a few days and I'll pull out my old catalogs and see if I can find it.

Ya know it's funny, whenever I am in this thread I am always thinking about saving ferris....I can't remember if that was a movie, song or band..
I am pretty sure the later..
(Getting to old I guess)
Hockeythug pm'ed me stating that he got his done...and I am hoping he will post some pics in here.
I will not be anywhere near the mustang until around July...so my stuff with this is on the back burner for now...sorry..

I have seen a couple at like mustangs unlimited, and several places around here in atlanta, plus places my brother always goes to in dallas texas for his mustang...I just never think about it, when I am there...

Ya know it's funny, whenever I am in this thread I am always thinking about saving ferris....I can't remember if that was a movie, song or band..

Movie.

"Ferris Beuhler's Day Off"

tanstaafl.

Here's a link to a friends mustang you might like.

Needs a bigger blower.

Isn't there also a band named "Save Ferris", presumably named after the movie?

Ah, yes, here.

Hey, Peter Collins produced them, they can't be that bad.

That must be where I've seen it. Try to keep it in mind next time you go or alternatively you could also get it through their mail order.

no, I wasn't thinking of the movie ferris buelers day off..
I was thinking of save ferris.
but I swear there is a song by that name too..
notice the guy that set all this off in my head hasn't said anything yet...(svferris)

Save Ferris's cover of come on eilleen is the song I am thinking of..
he he..ok..I am done..

Speaking of when I am in south beach again...
Besides working on the car and attempting to install one of the empegs in...
I thought I would share what I am also looking forward to seeing down there.
Enjoy

FYI, the reason my nickname is Save Ferris is from the band. Although, I really like the movie too.

I'm friends with the band, and even used to run the website. I just got into using the nickname.

Mmm...I'd look forward to seeing that too.

Ah, cool. That clears it up.

Since I couldn't find a FAQ on the web site, I'll ask you: Did they have to get permission from John Hughes to use the name? I guess they wouldn't have to technically, but I'm wondering if they did.

They converted a Mustang into a wagon and added a blown motor?!?

I don't think they got permission for it. They actually didn't even purposely pick the name because of the movie. Supposedly, one of the band members saw it written on a desk in their college class and thought it sounded like a cool band name.

Sorry it's taken so long, only had the opportunity to take some photos today. I am waiting for the approval (manual, *sigh*) on a gallery at riocar.org. I only took pictures of the empeg itself today, if I can tomorrow I will also get the car itself and the amp install in the trunk.

Here's a preview of the install. The empeg screen was really hard to capture accurately, but you know what it looks like.

I did end up cutting my dash. I was hesitant to do that, but the PO had actually already cut it some to fit in a previous radio (even though it was one made for a Mustang). I'm glad I cut it, it looks much better than the under-dash mounting I was planning on.

Looks good. I'd love to see some brighter pics, if you can, as well as the pics of the car.

Sorry it took so long, been really busy recently. BTW, anyone know how long it takes for the gallery at riocar.org to get set up? I've been waiting to post my pics there...

Oh well. Hope these are bright enough for you.

I got my set of lenses, am currently trying the red one. Not great, but I think it looks nicer in the car. Sunlight visibility was better with the blue, though. Have yet to try amber and green, and I may go with one from Darkstorm, too.

My car:


The rear:


The empeg, from the left:


The empeg, from further to the left:


The empeg, two views from the right:



I'll try to get these in a gallery one day, as well as get the early pics up. One day.

Very nice looking Pony.

I guess great minds think alike..
(you actually know the band?)
Very cool man..
getting more well rounded as we post..

dude, pony looks sweet..
Mine won't even compare with a convy...
nice mercedes in the background as well..
I can say that the empeg in here, with a nice sound system will elevate the car to an even higher plane of being...if that's possible..

Ooo, beautiful car. I'm hoping mine will look like that once I'm done. It looks like you did a great job with the empeg install.

I'm assuming that's a black convertible top? My parents think I should get a black top with black interior. I currently have a white interior with a black top, but I think I might go for white interior with white top.

What size motor you got in there?

Yeah, I grew up with a few of the band members. Pretty much all of them when to my high school (as did No Doubt). I hang out with them when they're in town. I've got some great concert pictures of them. I'll have to post the link whenever I get them up on my website.

Ciscokid: that's actually Dad's Volvo...

Svferrris: I have the black convertible top with a black standard interior. It's nice, but rather plain. I think the white top would really complement the white interior nicely, but it might be a pain to keep clean. Not sure how dirt-resistant the material on those is.

If you're willing to clean it, I think white on white is pretty nice. I definitely prefer keeping the original interior color, unless it's painful (Ivy Gold, anyone?). The top, however, is more up for grabs.

Either way, I wanna see more pics as you make progress.

The engine is a 289 C Code. That's 2 barrel carb, but the previous owner put in a 4 barrel Holley. If this were 1966, estimated HP would be in the neighborhood of 225. Those have always been stated HP, and are generally considered waaay overrated. Still, the car can move!

BTW, if you ever have any technical Mustang questions, a great forum (also UBBThreads) is vintage-mustang.com - click new forum on the left side. It's a major-league high traffic site, and the folks there really know their stuff. Don't know if you've seen the site, but it's been really helpful for me to ask questions and just read what other people are doing.

so svferris, you grew up with no doubt an dsave ferris..
(insert waynes world "we're not worthy")..
pretty sweet..
I will be working on the car and trying the install here in about a month...
I just got a nasty call from my brother that the transmission, died...
so, more work..:(
car will hopefully (crosses fingers) be running for good soon..

I am waiting for the approval (manual, *sigh*) on a gallery at riocar.org.

Sorry about the long delay on that, I've been ignoring my e-mail more and more with my new motorcycle. It's less of an approval process, and more of a creation process, as I have to go in and create the gallery, set permissions, and rename it. I poked at the code a while back to try and automate it, but couldn't find an easy and secure way of doing it. Part of the problem is that the gallery program uses it's own database file, instead of MySQL like the rest of the site. From what I saw, MySQL is in the works for the Gallery, so that should make it tons easier in the future.

If any other RioCar admins want to help keep the backlog of logos and gallery requests down, let me know.

no ones else has pics or anything for this?

Just when I thought my car was finished..
I have to get the transmission replaced..
so when I get down to fort lauderdale this next week..
I will have all the toons I want in the car, but nothing to show for it, since the car won't move..
how's your car going ferris?

Interesting that you asked...

A couple of weekends ago I got back to it again. Decided that I didn't feel like pulling the oil pan because it didn't look as easy as I thought. Besides, I figured it probably wouldn't do much good.

I took a look at the timing chain and thought it was a little loose. Decided I might as well replace it since it only cost $10. When I replaced it, I noticed it was significantly tighter, which was good. This made me hopeful that it might have been the root of my knocking and idling problems. So, I started putting everything back together. Noticed I had managed to strip the thread for the bolt that holds the harmonic balancer on. So, I had to go find a die & tap set that actually had a 5/8" tap. After finally finding one at Sears and getting that on, I noticed there was some bolts missing from the oil pan. Couldn't find them and swore they were never there in the first place. So, I went and bought new ones. When I tried to put them in, they wouldn't screw in. I couldn't figure out if it was the new gasket that was in the way or what. I decided not to worry about them since they were only two and were on opposite sides of the pan.

I managed to get everything else back in and bolted together. I went to start it up, and dammit, the knocking was still there. I somewhat wasn't surprised, but I had some hope. Decided to drive it around anyways. Still idled rather roughly and had smoke coming out the tailpipe and engine head when I revved it. After driving it around for about 15 minutes, I brought it back.

That's when I noticed I was leaking oil...from one of the spots that was missing a bolt. I'm not surprised. So, I put it back in the garage. Just as I got it in the garage and was taking a look at the leak, one of the hoses suddenly started leaking radiator fluid. And we're not talking about just some small leak. It really started coming out.

The engine had completely overheated and the hose which connects the radiator to the water pump was bulging. When it finally finished leaking, I think the radiator had lost like 1/4 the fluid.

Needless to say I was pissed off and fed up. That's when I decided I definitely was going to have somebody else rebuild the engine. I never planned on doing it anyways, but thought I might be able to discover what was wrong with it and get that fixed. But, seeing as how replacing the timing chain didn't help, I think I'll just spend the $2500 to get it rebuilt professionally.

I'll stick to monkeying with small things on the engine.

DUDE that sucks..
actually, i think I might catch a break on this one..
My brother, the car mechanic, is doing the hard stuff..
I generally stand around and hand him the tools.
I remembered him having a engine and trainy that I had helped him pull out of a 93 mustang.
(the transmission that's in the car now has a problem staying in park, plus it doesn't bolt up properly to the engine that it had been paired with for years.)
so I told him to check out the trainy off the 93, and it bolts right up, or so he says, so now I have to help him rip the old one off and put the new one on as soon as I get down there.
So much for working on the stereo...
but hopefully we can get the car running with no problems this time..
Just seems to be one thing after another

Just seems to be one thing after another

Yup, that's what working on cars is all about.

Back when I lived with my parents, my Dad helped me with a lot of things. He knows quite a bit, so it was good to have him either doing things or at least watching over me when I did stuff. Now, it's just me and the Chilton's manuals I check out from the library.

So, I just have to decide when to take my car down to get the engine rebuilt. I think I might have to wait until I get a promotional APR check from my credit card company.

So, I just have to decide when to take my car down to get the engine rebuilt. I think I might have to wait until I get a promotional APR check from my credit card company.
terrible..
tsk tsk..but I no how it is..
btwm what do you have your empegs in?

My 10GB is currently in a '96 Camry. I bought the car because it's one of the most reliable cars around. Never had a problem with it *knock on wood*.

My 60GB is sitting in my closet right now. Once I finally finish ripping my CD collection (almost done), I'll be filling the 60GB and moving the 10GB to the closet as a backup.

ok, let's trade here, how many cd's?
I have roughly 1500 give or take a spare 100...
without any mp3's I have downloaded or gotten from friends..

Heh. I think I have somewhere between 700-800 CDs. They pretty much cover ever genre. What I don't have on CD, I probably have on MP3. Yeah, I know everybody will hate me, but I think I have somewhere around 60-80GB of MP3 files (that I didn't pay for). Some of it is great stuff, too. Like my collection of rare Oingo Boingo. I think I have everything they ever did that you couldn't purchase.

I don't think it hurts
right now I only have around 10 gig's of my own stuff, and about 10 of stuff from either friends family or the net..
and I am still working with my cd collection to try and get it completed..
I think it will take me a while..:(

going back to the car bit..
sorry about all the car junk in here.
I realize that it's not a car forumn, but it relates to cars..
so anyway...
I am in beautiful sunny fort lauderdale.
I have my MK2 and looking at getting it installed after my brother and I fix my 66.
Turns out the "302" engine and tranny we got out of a 67 falcon is actually a "260" with a 2 speed tranny.
I am not sure if that is forward and reverse or forward, 1 and reverse..
but it looks like the empeg isn't going in just yet..
this totally sucks..
luckily my brother has a couple of spare "302's" in his tiny garage, and I will hopefully be able to persuade him to take out the "260" for sale and put in the "302" roller motor that was out of a 93 mustang..
my luck just sucks..

Ouch...bad luck. I hope your brother gives ya a spare 302.

I was talking to a friend the other night and he thought the quote I got for my engine rebuild was too high. I've basically been quoted between $2000-3000 for a full rebuild of my straight-6 200 cu. in. engine. This would include all necessary parts and labor. The places I've gone too have been professional places (two Mustang places, a classic car restoration place, and a retired Ford mechanic). My friend seems to think I could get a much better deal from a plain old engine shop.

Do you think I could get a better price? Do you think I should be worried about the quality of the rebuild vs. one of the Mustang places?

I am asking my brother as I type..
Personally, I think that's a bit high.
Yes the I6's are getting harder to find, and the parts are not as available as they used to be, but I know, just in january, that I could get a brand new one, with eveything, all kits from auto zone for $900...
Obviously they don't coincide and it's like counting apples and oranges..but it's something to think about and go on.
and personally, I think a good standard engine shop would do you better.
Plus the actual repair would be just the same as the mustang places.
Possibly better, but that's me.
I will get back to you on the price..
I don't think he paid that much to have my last one done last year.
I think he paid like $300 or around there.
Not sure if there is that much inflation across the country....but...have to get the info from him in a little bit.

actually, refering to the 302..I was thinking about it last night..
the 260 won't be quite as fast as the 302, but for now, the car will be working, and the 260 should give me better gas mileage compared to the 302..
so who knows...

ok, lets see, he rebiult my car for around $1500.
but he rebuilt the engine himself for about $300,
he said, that you can expect to play a couple of grand for a full restore.
so $2000 - $3000 sounds about right from what he said.
sorry about that

Cool. The basic quotes I was getting was:

$1400-1500 for parts (machining, hoses, etc.)
$400-500 for labor
$300 for engine detailing

I think I'll end up going with one of the Mustang places that comes recommended from the President of the San Diego Mustang Owners club. They actually recommended two places which both have the same basic price range. I'm going to drive down (maybe tomorrow) and take a look at the two places and talk with the guys. Maybe I can work a deal.

how's the car coming along..
I was going to have some nice pictures of one of my empegs in here, but we actually spent 4 weeks working on the car, and I should be bringing it up to atlanta sometime next month, and I will install the empeg then..

Hey hey...

Haven't touched the car since I worked on it last. I figure I probably won't be doing anything with it until I get the engine rebuilt.

Talked to one of my friends about how much I got quoted for the rebuild and he told me I could get a much better deal from a machine shop. He said he'd send me some info for a few places, but I haven't heard from him. I think I might start asking some more friends and see if they have some recommendations for places.

I'm taking a road trip from San Diego all the way to Canada. Gonna be driving Highway 1 for quite a bit. This would be a PERFECT use for the Mustang...top down...beautiful sun... But, I didn't want to take it all the way to Canada.

I figure once I get the car restored a decent amount, then I can go cruising up the 1.

that would be so sweet..
We just got done with the granada front disc conversion on it...but found out that the pony rims don't fit the granada hub or the rotor. We found what we thought were a good pair of crappy rims, just to get it on the road again..nope, one was too small..
so now I have to wait..
but we are supposed to be bringing it up here to atlanta in late august.

what would everyone suggest using as an amp in a classic mustang?
I have been looking at a lightning audio bolt 400.4 amp, only for it's affordability. I don't mind spending alittle more money to get a decent amp..

anyone anyone?
bueler?
Beuler?
Beulerrrr!

I have an Alpine MRP-F200. It's 4x75W (300W). I'm not really that much of an amp expert, but it's good. It was the cheapest 'nice amp' that the place that did my empeg install had, and was only a little bit more than some good deals I found online. I took the easy way. It gets very loud, and the sound is clean. More than that, I can't say.

cool, thanks.
Anyone else?
I have always been a sony guy myself..
but a friend of mine that works at a local starbucks, has like 3 amps, putting out 1500 watts total..4 12's 2 10's...the sound is amazing..there is not static or fuzz..
everything sounds crisp and clean..
Now, I honestly don't want something that big and loud..
something simple that puts out good sound will take a nice sub in the trunk and have low reverb..
any ideas from anyone else?

Wouldn't a sub in the trunk of your Mustang cause a horrible metal rattling sound? Unless you have your trunk REALLY well padded or sound proofed.

yeah, but people would know I was coming..
j.j.
didn't think about that

wow, it's been a long time since I posted in here..
I guess my project isn't going anywhere at the moment.
how's your car coming along svferris?

Things are pretty stale here too. I have a plan to finish paying off credit cards and getting money together to pay for the rebuild. I figure I'll probably do it in mid or late spring, in time for summer cruising.

sounds good, I have to get a job first, I am thinking about selling my two spare empeg's to have money for bills and life and what not.:(

Who needs a job and a life when you have an empeg!

It doesn't get better than non-stop music. But, I guess if you can't afford the music, it makes the empeg useless.

he he..
you haven't seen my 1500 cd cd collection..

well, i'm working on the car right now..
hopefully sometime next year...I can get it working and repainted, so that I can get the riocar installed..
Found out the radiator or engine had alot of gunk built up..got it flushed out..and now it's running, so that's one step closer to getting everything taken care of...

Glad to hear at least one of us is working on their car. I haven't even touched mine in months now. I really should at least start it up to make sure the engine doesn't freeze up.

I really want to stick by my goal of at least getting the engine rebuilt by late spring or the beginning of the summer so I can drive it around. After all, no point in driving a convertible around during the winter.

so true...
my brother and I fixed the overheating problem..
and the steering isue..
now, i just have to go pick it up and drive it...