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#67578 - 16/05/2002 23:17 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Yeah, I grew up with a few of the band members. Pretty much all of them when to my high school (as did No Doubt). I hang out with them when they're in town. I've got some great concert pictures of them. I'll have to post the link whenever I get them up on my website.
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#67579 - 17/05/2002 11:18 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
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Ciscokid: that's actually Dad's Volvo...

Svferrris: I have the black convertible top with a black standard interior. It's nice, but rather plain. I think the white top would really complement the white interior nicely, but it might be a pain to keep clean. Not sure how dirt-resistant the material on those is.

If you're willing to clean it, I think white on white is pretty nice. I definitely prefer keeping the original interior color, unless it's painful (Ivy Gold, anyone?). The top, however, is more up for grabs.

Either way, I wanna see more pics as you make progress.

The engine is a 289 C Code. That's 2 barrel carb, but the previous owner put in a 4 barrel Holley. If this were 1966, estimated HP would be in the neighborhood of 225. Those have always been stated HP, and are generally considered waaay overrated. Still, the car can move!

BTW, if you ever have any technical Mustang questions, a great forum (also UBBThreads) is vintage-mustang.com - click new forum on the left side. It's a major-league high traffic site, and the folks there really know their stuff. Don't know if you've seen the site, but it's been really helpful for me to ask questions and just read what other people are doing.

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#67580 - 19/05/2002 09:23 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: hockeythug]
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so svferris, you grew up with no doubt an dsave ferris..
(insert waynes world "we're not worthy")..
pretty sweet..
I will be working on the car and trying the install here in about a month...
I just got a nasty call from my brother that the transmission, died...
so, more work..:(
car will hopefully (crosses fingers) be running for good soon..
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#67581 - 19/05/2002 16:24 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: hockeythug]
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I am waiting for the approval (manual, *sigh*) on a gallery at riocar.org.

Sorry about the long delay on that, I've been ignoring my e-mail more and more with my new motorcycle. It's less of an approval process, and more of a creation process, as I have to go in and create the gallery, set permissions, and rename it. I poked at the code a while back to try and automate it, but couldn't find an easy and secure way of doing it. Part of the problem is that the gallery program uses it's own database file, instead of MySQL like the rest of the site. From what I saw, MySQL is in the works for the Gallery, so that should make it tons easier in the future.

If any other RioCar admins want to help keep the backlog of logos and gallery requests down, let me know.
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#67582 - 21/05/2002 21:28 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: drakino]
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no ones else has pics or anything for this?
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#67583 - 19/06/2002 20:11 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Just when I thought my car was finished..
I have to get the transmission replaced..
so when I get down to fort lauderdale this next week..
I will have all the toons I want in the car, but nothing to show for it, since the car won't move..
how's your car going ferris?
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#67584 - 19/06/2002 23:33 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Interesting that you asked...

A couple of weekends ago I got back to it again. Decided that I didn't feel like pulling the oil pan because it didn't look as easy as I thought. Besides, I figured it probably wouldn't do much good.

I took a look at the timing chain and thought it was a little loose. Decided I might as well replace it since it only cost $10. When I replaced it, I noticed it was significantly tighter, which was good. This made me hopeful that it might have been the root of my knocking and idling problems. So, I started putting everything back together. Noticed I had managed to strip the thread for the bolt that holds the harmonic balancer on. So, I had to go find a die & tap set that actually had a 5/8" tap. After finally finding one at Sears and getting that on, I noticed there was some bolts missing from the oil pan. Couldn't find them and swore they were never there in the first place. So, I went and bought new ones. When I tried to put them in, they wouldn't screw in. I couldn't figure out if it was the new gasket that was in the way or what. I decided not to worry about them since they were only two and were on opposite sides of the pan.

I managed to get everything else back in and bolted together. I went to start it up, and dammit, the knocking was still there. I somewhat wasn't surprised, but I had some hope. Decided to drive it around anyways. Still idled rather roughly and had smoke coming out the tailpipe and engine head when I revved it. After driving it around for about 15 minutes, I brought it back.

That's when I noticed I was leaking oil...from one of the spots that was missing a bolt. I'm not surprised. So, I put it back in the garage. Just as I got it in the garage and was taking a look at the leak, one of the hoses suddenly started leaking radiator fluid. And we're not talking about just some small leak. It really started coming out.

The engine had completely overheated and the hose which connects the radiator to the water pump was bulging. When it finally finished leaking, I think the radiator had lost like 1/4 the fluid.

Needless to say I was pissed off and fed up. That's when I decided I definitely was going to have somebody else rebuild the engine. I never planned on doing it anyways, but thought I might be able to discover what was wrong with it and get that fixed. But, seeing as how replacing the timing chain didn't help, I think I'll just spend the $2500 to get it rebuilt professionally.

I'll stick to monkeying with small things on the engine.
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#67585 - 20/06/2002 10:42 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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DUDE that sucks..
actually, i think I might catch a break on this one..
My brother, the car mechanic, is doing the hard stuff..
I generally stand around and hand him the tools.
I remembered him having a engine and trainy that I had helped him pull out of a 93 mustang.
(the transmission that's in the car now has a problem staying in park, plus it doesn't bolt up properly to the engine that it had been paired with for years.)
so I told him to check out the trainy off the 93, and it bolts right up, or so he says, so now I have to help him rip the old one off and put the new one on as soon as I get down there.
So much for working on the stereo...
but hopefully we can get the car running with no problems this time..
Just seems to be one thing after another


Edited by ciscokid455 (20/06/2002 10:50)
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#67586 - 20/06/2002 12:22 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Just seems to be one thing after another

Yup, that's what working on cars is all about.

Back when I lived with my parents, my Dad helped me with a lot of things. He knows quite a bit, so it was good to have him either doing things or at least watching over me when I did stuff. Now, it's just me and the Chilton's manuals I check out from the library.

So, I just have to decide when to take my car down to get the engine rebuilt. I think I might have to wait until I get a promotional APR check from my credit card company.
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#67587 - 22/06/2002 14:31 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
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So, I just have to decide when to take my car down to get the engine rebuilt. I think I might have to wait until I get a promotional APR check from my credit card company.
terrible..
tsk tsk..but I no how it is..
btwm what do you have your empegs in?
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#67588 - 23/06/2002 12:05 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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My 10GB is currently in a '96 Camry. I bought the car because it's one of the most reliable cars around. Never had a problem with it *knock on wood*.

My 60GB is sitting in my closet right now. Once I finally finish ripping my CD collection (almost done), I'll be filling the 60GB and moving the 10GB to the closet as a backup.
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#67589 - 24/06/2002 18:51 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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ok, let's trade here, how many cd's?
I have roughly 1500 give or take a spare 100...
without any mp3's I have downloaded or gotten from friends..
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#67590 - 24/06/2002 23:10 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Heh. I think I have somewhere between 700-800 CDs. They pretty much cover ever genre. What I don't have on CD, I probably have on MP3. Yeah, I know everybody will hate me, but I think I have somewhere around 60-80GB of MP3 files (that I didn't pay for). Some of it is great stuff, too. Like my collection of rare Oingo Boingo. I think I have everything they ever did that you couldn't purchase.
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#67591 - 25/06/2002 13:08 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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I don't think it hurts
right now I only have around 10 gig's of my own stuff, and about 10 of stuff from either friends family or the net..
and I am still working with my cd collection to try and get it completed..
I think it will take me a while..:(
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#67592 - 27/06/2002 20:01 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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going back to the car bit..
sorry about all the car junk in here.
I realize that it's not a car forumn, but it relates to cars..
so anyway...
I am in beautiful sunny fort lauderdale.
I have my MK2 and looking at getting it installed after my brother and I fix my 66.
Turns out the "302" engine and tranny we got out of a 67 falcon is actually a "260" with a 2 speed tranny.
I am not sure if that is forward and reverse or forward, 1 and reverse..
but it looks like the empeg isn't going in just yet..
this totally sucks..
luckily my brother has a couple of spare "302's" in his tiny garage, and I will hopefully be able to persuade him to take out the "260" for sale and put in the "302" roller motor that was out of a 93 mustang..
my luck just sucks..
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#67593 - 27/06/2002 22:34 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
svferris
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Ouch...bad luck. I hope your brother gives ya a spare 302.

I was talking to a friend the other night and he thought the quote I got for my engine rebuild was too high. I've basically been quoted between $2000-3000 for a full rebuild of my straight-6 200 cu. in. engine. This would include all necessary parts and labor. The places I've gone too have been professional places (two Mustang places, a classic car restoration place, and a retired Ford mechanic). My friend seems to think I could get a much better deal from a plain old engine shop.

Do you think I could get a better price? Do you think I should be worried about the quality of the rebuild vs. one of the Mustang places?
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#67594 - 28/06/2002 10:59 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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I am asking my brother as I type..
Personally, I think that's a bit high.
Yes the I6's are getting harder to find, and the parts are not as available as they used to be, but I know, just in january, that I could get a brand new one, with eveything, all kits from auto zone for $900...
Obviously they don't coincide and it's like counting apples and oranges..but it's something to think about and go on.
and personally, I think a good standard engine shop would do you better.
Plus the actual repair would be just the same as the mustang places.
Possibly better, but that's me.
I will get back to you on the price..
I don't think he paid that much to have my last one done last year.
I think he paid like $300 or around there.
Not sure if there is that much inflation across the country....but...have to get the info from him in a little bit.
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#67595 - 28/06/2002 11:00 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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actually, refering to the 302..I was thinking about it last night..
the 260 won't be quite as fast as the 302, but for now, the car will be working, and the 260 should give me better gas mileage compared to the 302..
so who knows...
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#67596 - 28/06/2002 11:06 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
ciscokid455
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ok, lets see, he rebiult my car for around $1500.
but he rebuilt the engine himself for about $300,
he said, that you can expect to play a couple of grand for a full restore.
so $2000 - $3000 sounds about right from what he said.
sorry about that
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#67597 - 28/06/2002 12:02 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Cool. The basic quotes I was getting was:

$1400-1500 for parts (machining, hoses, etc.)
$400-500 for labor
$300 for engine detailing

I think I'll end up going with one of the Mustang places that comes recommended from the President of the San Diego Mustang Owners club. They actually recommended two places which both have the same basic price range. I'm going to drive down (maybe tomorrow) and take a look at the two places and talk with the guys. Maybe I can work a deal.
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#67598 - 25/07/2002 19:53 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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how's the car coming along..
I was going to have some nice pictures of one of my empegs in here, but we actually spent 4 weeks working on the car, and I should be bringing it up to atlanta sometime next month, and I will install the empeg then..
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#67599 - 26/07/2002 10:49 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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Hey hey...

Haven't touched the car since I worked on it last. I figure I probably won't be doing anything with it until I get the engine rebuilt.

Talked to one of my friends about how much I got quoted for the rebuild and he told me I could get a much better deal from a machine shop. He said he'd send me some info for a few places, but I haven't heard from him. I think I might start asking some more friends and see if they have some recommendations for places.

I'm taking a road trip from San Diego all the way to Canada. Gonna be driving Highway 1 for quite a bit. This would be a PERFECT use for the Mustang...top down...beautiful sun... But, I didn't want to take it all the way to Canada.

I figure once I get the car restored a decent amount, then I can go cruising up the 1.
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#67600 - 26/07/2002 18:18 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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that would be so sweet..
We just got done with the granada front disc conversion on it...but found out that the pony rims don't fit the granada hub or the rotor. We found what we thought were a good pair of crappy rims, just to get it on the road again..nope, one was too small..
so now I have to wait..
but we are supposed to be bringing it up here to atlanta in late august.
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#67601 - 30/07/2002 15:41 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
ciscokid455
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what would everyone suggest using as an amp in a classic mustang?
I have been looking at a lightning audio bolt 400.4 amp, only for it's affordability. I don't mind spending alittle more money to get a decent amp..
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#67602 - 05/08/2002 20:48 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
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anyone anyone?
bueler?
Beuler?
Beulerrrr!
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#67603 - 11/08/2002 14:40 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
hockeythug
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Loc: Raleigh, NC
I have an Alpine MRP-F200. It's 4x75W (300W). I'm not really that much of an amp expert, but it's good. It was the cheapest 'nice amp' that the place that did my empeg install had, and was only a little bit more than some good deals I found online. I took the easy way. It gets very loud, and the sound is clean. More than that, I can't say.

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#67604 - 19/08/2002 15:50 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: hockeythug]
ciscokid455
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cool, thanks.
Anyone else?
I have always been a sony guy myself..
but a friend of mine that works at a local starbucks, has like 3 amps, putting out 1500 watts total..4 12's 2 10's...the sound is amazing..there is not static or fuzz..
everything sounds crisp and clean..
Now, I honestly don't want something that big and loud..
something simple that puts out good sound will take a nice sub in the trunk and have low reverb..
any ideas from anyone else?
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#67605 - 20/08/2002 12:49 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
svferris
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Wouldn't a sub in the trunk of your Mustang cause a horrible metal rattling sound? Unless you have your trunk REALLY well padded or sound proofed.
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#67606 - 21/08/2002 22:49 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: svferris]
ciscokid455
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yeah, but people would know I was coming..
j.j.
didn't think about that
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#67607 - 17/10/2002 21:07 Re: '66 mustang installation [Re: ciscokid455]
ciscokid455
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wow, it's been a long time since I posted in here..
I guess my project isn't going anywhere at the moment.
how's your car coming along svferris?
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