#70654 - 13/02/2002 03:03
RDS Thermometer
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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http://www.ace-xtra.com/rdsxtra.htm
This unit sits between the tuner and the antenna, and
"inputs" RDS-text showing the current indoor and outdoor temperature.
I seem to remember that the RDS-data could be picked up, even when playing MP3s? And then put in an "overlay" over the screen at a particular button-press? Any comments?
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70655 - 13/02/2002 08:27
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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That almost looks like a hoax product... I mean, how does it know what station you're listening to? (unless, of course, you tune to a dead station & get no audio but *do* get temperature info... that would make sense even though it'd be damn inconvenient)
Hugo
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#70656 - 13/02/2002 08:31
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: altman]
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old hand
Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
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Hi Hugo.
That is exactly the way it works: It creates a soundless virtual station with RDS info. Though I have seen one device that actually added RDS info to _one_ pre-existing station, overwriting any RDS info that station might send itself. The problem with that unit was that you couldn't tune it to another station on the fly, so if you where out of reach of your favorite station, you either had no sound, or no RDS temperatur display.
cu,
sven
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#70657 - 13/02/2002 08:38
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: altman]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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Yes, it works like that. One Silent station displaying RDS. But what I thought would be a way to make it useful was to have the RDS comming in when listening to MP3s.
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70658 - 13/02/2002 10:00
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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OMFG, I must own this product.
One of the great features of my old Volkswagen was that I could get the outside temperature from the onboard computer. I have missed that feature on my new Honda.
And since RDS is completely useless to me here in the US, this suddenly makes it useful. And I don't have to worry about it overriding a radio station. TOO COOL.
Okay, how do I buy one of these here in the US? They've only got a Dutch address and no E-store.
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#70659 - 13/02/2002 10:21
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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They've only got a Dutch address and no E-store
Another reason to come to the European owners meet?
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#70660 - 13/02/2002 10:34
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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#70661 - 13/02/2002 11:08
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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addict
Registered: 10/11/2000
Posts: 497
Loc: Utah, USA
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Slightly shifting the topic, I have a hard time figuring out why manufacturers of add-on products that use FM modulation don't add some sort of RDS output for their products. An add-on CD changer could display the track number and time, or CD Text information. An XM tuner could display the song name.
This wouldn't obviate the need for a separate display unit for those who don't have RDS radios, and you'd still need external controls. However, it would really increase people's install options.
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#70662 - 13/02/2002 11:42
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: adavidw]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
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That's an easy one... Money. There wouldn't be enough profit made to offset the cost of the added feature. And while lots of ppl would think seeing the outside temp on their radio is cool, not enough would be willing to pay the $20 or so extra for the option.
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#70663 - 14/02/2002 07:18
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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addict
Registered: 20/11/2001
Posts: 455
Loc: Texas
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Try this as well. Displays in an autodimming rearview mirror just like the OEM GM product.
http://www.mitocorp.com/nvsct.htm
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#70664 - 14/02/2002 11:42
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
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The more I think about this, the more cool I think this product is.
Calvin
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#70665 - 15/02/2002 04:14
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: eternalsun]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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As previously mentioned... My local shop sells these, so that if you can't get hold of them, I'll buy and distribute. I'll buy one on Monday, I think, and check it out.
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70666 - 15/02/2002 13:02
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
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I would love it if they had one that displayed two temperatures and wider ranges. Like from -40 to 150 degrees and two separate temps would be perfect. :-) Are there other available models that do this? (checking)
Does it override the RDS for a particular station or all stations or create a blank station?
Calvin
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#70667 - 15/02/2002 13:16
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: eternalsun]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I think it creates a blank station. It would be cool if it overrode RDS for all stations because RDS is useless where I live, but an outside-temp indicator would be terribly useful. Don't think it does that, though.
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#70668 - 15/02/2002 13:22
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
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I was considering a intake charge and intercooler charge temp probe without wasting a gauge position. :-/
Calvin
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#70669 - 15/02/2002 13:54
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: eternalsun]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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I think it can do inside and outside temp... Probably one in the unit and one external probe.
I'll test it wether it can lie "on top of" another radio channel
Marius
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#70670 - 15/02/2002 14:35
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Marius, if you can get some through your local shop, I might be interested in one, as long as it's a US-capable version (uses Fahrenheit scale and tunes to US frequency increments). Dunno how to handle the currency conversion, is there a such thing as cross-national PayPal?
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#70671 - 15/02/2002 14:39
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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I *think* you can just pay to my Paypal acfcount... I cannot "withdraw" money from it, but *I can use it to pay for something else. I'm not 100% sure, though... but that's something we'll be able to work out...
I'll buy one on Monday (ca) and test it for US functions :-)
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70672 - 15/02/2002 14:44
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I thought (from the web site) that the US version was actually a different part. Not sure, though.
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#70673 - 15/02/2002 15:00
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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hm... there seems to be a 108MHz model and a 106.5MHz model http://www.buchhalter.de/Produkte/rds.htm
This probably means that it is not adjustable...
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70674 - 19/02/2002 04:05
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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Bad news.... my local shop told me that the factory producing these has burned, and they are not expecting any to be produced until October again... So it would have to be if we could manage to find some in another shop...
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70675 - 19/02/2002 08:21
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Wow, if that weren't so tragic, there would be something hilariously ironic about a thermometer factory burning down.
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#70676 - 19/02/2002 14:39
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
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That's pretty twisted! :-D
Calvin
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#70677 - 19/02/2002 14:52
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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journeyman
Registered: 28/11/2001
Posts: 87
Loc: California (Ex NZ)
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Hi Tony
Why not interface a simple temperature sensor circuit through the serial port?. The temperatures could then be displayed in a hijack app.
The advantage of this method is that you could set Hi and Low temp warnings and play a sound file. You could even have it play a sound file when the ignition was turned off that said ....hope you've got something warm wrapped around your ......(insert plural anatomy feature here). Its %^&* cold out there.....
Peter
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#70678 - 19/02/2002 15:04
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: peterk]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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That might be a fun project. Don't know where to start, though, especially with the circuitry to send characters down the serial port.
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#70679 - 19/02/2002 15:22
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tfabris]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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PIC controller with an analogue input directly connected to a temperature probe (or a couple), serial port directly to serial port.... *should* be easy enough :-)
I am 100% sure something like this exists already.
Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
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#70680 - 19/02/2002 15:58
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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#70681 - 19/02/2002 16:02
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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A Dallas Semiconductor 1-Wire bus would be much more useful and versatile. You can string quite a few devices off it so you can have multiple temperature sensors. There is a whole range of bits, last time I played about with it there were memory chips, addressable switches, clocks and temperature sensors.
A PIC chip could be used to interface the bus to the serial port or you can buy a serial port adapter.
I've got an iButton developer kit which is their 1-Wire stuff in a small metal can and it is quite neat. You could use an iButton to authenticate yourself to the empeg if you wanted.
- Trevor
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#70682 - 19/02/2002 16:06
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: tman]
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
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Yes.. I can see that after some searching...
for 3$ you could get a temperature-to-1wire bus unit.
du you have a price for the simple 1wire to rs-232 part
of it?
Marius
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#70683 - 19/02/2002 16:15
Re: RDS Thermometer
[Re: jane]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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I'm not in the US so I don't know the price over there but I'd say about $10-$15 or so at most.
- Trevor
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