im intrested too!
thx

I have checked this and generated three wav files which you should find attached to this post. They are a 0db sine wave, a 0db square wave (+3b), a -5db sine wave, and a -10db sine wave.

It transpires that the visual was using 1.5 times the rms for its display to expand the needle range for normal sounds into the region above 0db. Actually this should be a multiply by (square root of two) but 1.5 is close enough. This brings the 0db point to the far right of the display.

I have now altered the algorithm so that the scale is as discussed with 0db being the sine wave reference point at around 64 degrees. However, it is up to you, the users which you would prefer. You should not see much activity in the region above 0db unless your audio is clipping.

Tony's latest scale is pretty accurate, even -5db and -10db are nearly in the right place, and he didn't have any theory to work from for that scale.

Toby, you can't attach files >100KB

Rob

Sorry #1 here are the sinewave_0db and squarewave_0db

sorry #2 here is the sinewave_-10db

sorry #3 here is the sinewave_-5db

bloody hell that was a bit of a shag

Watch the lord mayor, china! You do rabbit some jackson.

Rob

Tony's latest scale is pretty accurate, even -5db and -10db are nearly in the right place, and he didn't have any theory to work from for that scale.

Wow.

I assume that means the new version of AnnaVu with the adjusted scaling will be in the next beta, or is there a way to change the existing one (I would think not)? Are you going to have two versions, like an "AnnaVu (Traiditional) and AnnaVu(Accurate)" or similar?

Thanks for your hard work!

Uhhhh.. What?

I don't know really whether the scale should be chanegd for the next beta, that's up to you guys.

Personally I think the old scale looks better as there is more needle deflection. The new scale doesn't show any deflection above 0db unless the sound is pretty screwed up or clipping.

I would recommend that we have 0db at the top of the scale and number it down to -infinity. This should be possible with the wavs I attached to previous posts, although you may require a -40db as well.

If the scale is replaced, can we lose the fake rivets please ?

They are just a little too cheesy for such a hi tech product...

I like the rivets... but the whole thing is so cooooooooooooool that I'd still like it either way. Way to go Tony and Toby.

I think we should lose the rivets because they would not show up illuminated on a real VU meter. The rest of the display looks very realistic.

Rob

My vote is to change the scale to represent a traditional VU meter. Otherwise, it is something else and unfamiliar in its behavior.

Perhaps a poll is in order!

Lynn

Why not just have both! Then everyone can have the one they want :-)

Okay, here is one without the screws.

Personally, I like the screws, they give it that "analog feel". But I aims to please.

But I aims to please

...and you succeed, except when the cheese creeps in

Do Americans understand our reference to the fatty foodstuff in this context???

I thought they invented invented this particular context ?

I kept my screws. I like that version better. Thanks Tony..

The first reference to ``cheesy'' in this context in my OED is from a book called Student Slang by a Gore in 1896, but I'm having a hard time finding any more reference to that, so I can't tell if he was American or English. However, the second reference is from a P.G. Wodehouse Jeeves novel written 34 years later, who was an Englishman living in America, so that doesn't help any more. (Boy, that was all helpful, wasn't it?)

Regardless, yes -- we do know that meaning.

Searching for the definition of "cheesy" on Google leads to some very unsavoury descriptions of medical conditions, put me right off my food it did...

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I'd really prefer if the upper right screw were the same orientation as the lower left.. symmetry or something

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ask and ye shall receive...
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sancho

It's the little things in life that really count.

Thanks!

Hey, Toby. Tim likes it. Does that mean it can be the default visual now?

I'm not trying to bring back a thread from the graveyard or anything here, but what ever happened with this...?

I just installed V3.0 Alpha 7 and it has the old shwaggy Anna Vu in it.

So, I thought I'd mention it.

Recent versions of LogoEdit have an option to replace Anna Vu and Tux Much via FTP. One of the included example is a replacement Anna Vu. I've just gotten in the habit of putting that into place every time I do an upgrade. Right after Hijack.

Here is one of mine I did about a year or so ago.
It still needs some tweaking that I never got around to.
This one looks col especially if you have indiglo gauges.

Okay, that's pretty cool.