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#77961 - 05/03/2002 17:31 I'll be your best friend...
jheathco
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Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
...if you can show me where to get the small font .raw file (and its dimensions?) for the empeg so I don't have to make my own...
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#77962 - 05/03/2002 17:33 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: jheathco]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
/empeg/lib/fonts/small.bf
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#77963 - 05/03/2002 17:34 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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So what does this whole "best friend" thing entail? What's in it for me?

(I'm straight and married, by the way, so no funny stuff.)
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#77964 - 05/03/2002 17:44 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: tfabris]
jheathco
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Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
So I lied! Muhahahahahah!!!! Just kiddin, um.... you run windows right? Want a free copy of anything from heathcosoft.com? I know you already make something like the MP3 splitter/joiner, but the clipboard program I think is pretty neat...
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#77965 - 05/03/2002 17:51 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: jheathco]
jheathco
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Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
By the way, do you know the dimensions? I tried (5xwhatever) but that doesn't seem right.... maybe there's header information that Photoshop needs to skip over?
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#77966 - 05/03/2002 18:03 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: jheathco]
jheathco
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Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
Just remembered it's not a fixed-width font.... guess we'd need a file spec here...
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#77967 - 05/03/2002 18:09 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: jheathco]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I think Bruno (hybrid8) knows the font specs, he can tell you.
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#77968 - 05/03/2002 20:33 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: jheathco]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Photoshop only loads 8bit raw. Unless you're going to make your own format plugin. So there's no way to load the font without custom code. I believe they're stored as 4bit, even though they're actually only 2bit.

The font on the player is currently 6 pixels tall and has a defined max width of 9 pixels. The characters are compiled to be variable width. Any character can include any number of blank pixels to pad its right side, up to a maximum of the defined max width. I can't give you a suggestion for how to know where one charcter starts and another ends. There may be a marker within the file, don't know. I can find out, because I have the source to build the font binary, but I haven't studied it.

Anyway, the only reason I'm even saying any of this is because Toby has mentioned enough that I figure this is ok. If you want the actual source files however, please ask Toby because I won't give anything out without his permission.

I have compiled fonts that include more charcters than are currently on the b11 version (the b11 is missing a bunch of characters in the upper 128). Full Latin1 set in both medium and small versions. I've also got a medium with Greek upper 128 and will finish the small soon (cypher's idea and he did up some bitmaps for me to transpose and adjust a bit).

Wire knows the format however (I believe) and went so far as to suggest he might make an editor/converter. I think a converter would be a fine thing to do. An editor might need too much bitmap duplication from other apps, but if someone is willing, might be useful as well. Photoshop stinks for editing indexed bitmaps by the way.

I have some ideas for the way to visually format a bitmap for use with a converter and I also have ideas for some minimum requirements if anyone wants to do a full-fledged editor (as well as some programs that I can recommend to look at for examples).

If anyone wants to sample the more complete version of the fonts, let me know. I haven't had much opportunity to test the accented characters and I know there are a bunch I still have to fix/redo especially in the small version (I've been lazy lately )

Bruno

Anyway, right now, I'm trying to see if I can figure out how to hack out the "Plays" display in the Info:Track view. The text is easy enough, but the variable I don't have a clue for yet.
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#77969 - 06/03/2002 08:47 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: hybrid8]
prolux
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Registered: 17/08/1999
Posts: 151
Loc: Manchester, UK
I have already offered (on this BBS somewhere) to supply the font building source code to any car player user that requests it since it is a completely standalone program.

In the meantime if you have any updates to the currently released fonts included with b11 Bruno then please let me have them so that they can be included in the next release.

Namaste
Toby


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#77970 - 06/03/2002 09:15 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: prolux]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I'm getting the feeling that he next beta may be only a week away or so?
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#77971 - 06/03/2002 18:09 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: prolux]
hybrid8
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Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I'll send them to you by the weekend. That may give me the chance to fix a few of the characters I didn't do a great job with (some of the obscure small ones).

Bruno
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#77972 - 07/03/2002 09:18 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: prolux]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
I'd like to have that. If you don't mind. send it to [email protected], or let me know how I can get it. Thank you!
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#77973 - 07/03/2002 12:14 Re: I'll be your best friend... [Re: hybrid8]
jheathco
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Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
Thanks hybrid
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