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#87659 - 15/04/2002 17:03 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yes, Bitt, that was the basic idea. But it's more than just color. An assembly line simply works best when there are no variations.
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#87660 - 15/04/2002 17:06 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Well, I was joking. So there!

I thought I was overusing the emoticons already. Apparently not.
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#87661 - 15/04/2002 17:09 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: Alexander]
pca
old hand

Registered: 20/07/1999
Posts: 1102
Loc: UK
Hugo is happy with this, and I have all the necessary data. He wants some as well

Patrick
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#87662 - 15/04/2002 17:14 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
Folsom
member

Registered: 12/08/2001
Posts: 175
Loc: Atlanta
Just curious, how many layers would the board end up having? The reason I am asking is that I have access to a board milling machine.

Regards,

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#87663 - 15/04/2002 17:15 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
Anonymous
Unregistered


Woo-hoo!

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#87664 - 15/04/2002 17:35 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
oktane
new poster

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 12

Well,

This is certainly fantastic news. My hat's off to you for putting in the effort for this. I have been working on a little project myself, and know how much work it is to get everything to be easy to produce and fit in a case.

AM/FM and WB are nice, but has there been any thought into XM radio?


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#87665 - 15/04/2002 17:43 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
"I am chasing the supplier of the tuner modules for pricing and availability, and I'm still waiting for a final price in small quantities."

You have mail regarding this issue. :-)

Sean

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#87666 - 15/04/2002 17:45 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
shadow45
member

Registered: 19/03/2002
Posts: 144
Loc: Florida, USA
Put me down for one! I'll pay in advance, whatever. I just want to see that my empeg gets a tuner, so I have one less thing that people can't bitch about in my car aside from lack of cd player
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#87667 - 15/04/2002 17:50 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: oktane]
ashmoore
addict

Registered: 24/08/1999
Posts: 564
Loc: TX
this is indeed wonderful news, my Austin Cambridge is eagerly awaiting its tuner, I can't listen to the traffic news without the tuner.
No wait, I don't have the Cambridge any longer, oh well it will have to go into my truck.
btw, I could have sworn I saw a new style Vauxhall Astra here in Austin yesterday. Has anyone else seen one here?
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#87668 - 15/04/2002 17:51 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: shadow45]
Satan_X
enthusiast

Registered: 22/03/2002
Posts: 251
Loc: Ramsey, NJ
"You think you're excited! Feel these nipples!"
- Bob Costas
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#87669 - 15/04/2002 18:03 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
The guy who created the Empeg needs Empeg tuners.

That's rich.
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#87670 - 15/04/2002 18:08 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
Shonky
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
And there was much rejoicing.... I'll pay up front too if you want.

Patrick, did you read this thread where Terminator got a price of US$30 per module. click here

edit: looks like he beat me to it.
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#87671 - 15/04/2002 18:09 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: tonyc]
Satan_X
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Registered: 22/03/2002
Posts: 251
Loc: Ramsey, NJ
watch 'em sell over a thousand of these kits......
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#87672 - 15/04/2002 19:32 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: Satan_X]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Hehehe... If the price is reasonable, and they work, they probably will.

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#87673 - 15/04/2002 23:18 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
time
enthusiast

Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
In reply to:

In addition, I intend to add a few small modifications to the basic design, ie. bring out to some suitable connector the 3 unused A to D channels the PIC has available, and possibly add a couple of digital IOs. It would also be doable to add one or two thermocouple inputs, if this is of any interest.



If this means what I think it does (TiVo/Replay Mode with the Tuner) than I'm in for at least one, and willing to put cash up font!

Sweet! Way to go Patrick!

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#87674 - 16/04/2002 01:56 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
jane
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
You are my Hero!
And... it just occured to me...
I would want one of these tuner modules to connect to my PC as well :-) But I guess there will be too much work to include line-out? (This would definitively get more of them sold)

But I'll buy a kit no matter.

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)

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#87675 - 16/04/2002 02:04 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
jane
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
And another tought...
I don't know wether it is a good suggestion, but you could
consider making the unit 1/2DIN size for those 1.5DIN cars... and maybe take out some of the I/O in the front.
But also in a way so that it could be mounted hidden for those 1 DIN cars

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)

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#87676 - 16/04/2002 03:13 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: Alexander]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Oh, and rob, will there be any problem getting SB to release the tuner design and OK these kits?

No problem at all.

Rob

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#87677 - 16/04/2002 08:12 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
trevorp
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Registered: 08/06/2000
Posts: 144
Loc: Ft Lauderdale, FL
Well, Speaking for my friends, I know there's demand for at least 4 here.
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#87678 - 16/04/2002 10:16 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: pca]
Japie
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Registered: 06/04/2002
Posts: 31
Loc: The Hague, Holland, Europe
Excellent idea!

I am from Holland (in Europe) and am willing to act as a distribution point for users in Holland (to save shipping costs). Please let me know whether anybody would like my help. Please also ship at least one to Holland, I am willing to pay in advance.

Finally getting a tuner so I can avoid those bloody jams!

Jaap.

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#87679 - 16/04/2002 17:04 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: time]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
No, it won't allow tivo-style work I'm afraid. To do that would require adding a FM demux chip, a set of line outs, and hooking these up to aux in on the empeg. Would add cost and need non-trivial design changes (ie, it'd make it later because it'd need to be prototyped, etc).

Hugo

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#87680 - 16/04/2002 17:18 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: altman]
dcosta
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Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 277
Loc: Massachussetts
Could this proposed new tuner allow for another (third) set of RCA outputs ?
Please, please, please tell me it will.

Also could it supply a set of 4v RCA's for home use without an extra sled.
If so, I'll hold off on the sled purchase and buy 2 of these tuners...
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#87681 - 16/04/2002 17:22 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: dcosta]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Could this proposed new tuner allow for another (third) set of RCA outputs ?

No, because the connector that attaches the tuner to the sled does not have any outgoing audio on it. It only sends audio to the player, it does not receive any audio from the player.

If you need more outputs, just make your own as described in the FAQ.
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#87682 - 16/04/2002 22:05 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: dcosta]
Shonky
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I know the idea of adding extra afterthoughts is cool, but I would much prefer to just get a tuner. Bringing out the extra I/O is no big deal so why not - but adding hardware for sampling/recording the tuner, extra RCAs blah blah....

Ain't realistically gonna happen IMHO
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#40104192 120Gb (no longer in my E36 M3, won't fit the E46 M3)

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#87683 - 17/04/2002 04:27 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: Shonky]
Nosferatu
enthusiast

Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
About ecording the tuner, is it not possible with software ?
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#87684 - 17/04/2002 04:38 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: Nosferatu]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Yeah, it's possible but there are limitations. It's mentioned in the FAQ. Main problems would be that your HD will always be spinning and mounted read/write which wouldn't be good and that you can't listen to MP3s whilst recording off the tuner.

- Trevor

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#87685 - 17/04/2002 08:40 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: tfabris]
dcosta
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Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 277
Loc: Massachussetts
If you need more outputs, just make your own as described in the FAQ.

I am aware of this FAQ, but I am also aware that this is not really what I am looking for.
C'mon, we all know that these are all work arounds to having a front output a rear output and a third non-fading adjustable output. Also, Nothing in said FAQ allows for a 4V output for home use without buying another sled.

[dreaming]
I think the next hardware revision of the empeg should be double din (with a bigger *LCD* screen) and have these three outputs and have am/fm/xm/cd/tape and of course mp3 built in. GPS would be a neat thing to have too. Oh, and maybe a vidoe out of some sort
[/dreaming]
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#87686 - 17/04/2002 09:53 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: dcosta]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
am/fm/xm/cd/tape

Don't forget DAB radio for us Europeans...
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#87687 - 17/04/2002 13:51 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: dcosta]
Anonymous
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....and don't forget an output for the flux capacitor.

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#87688 - 17/04/2002 17:14 Re: Tuners, empeg, for the use of [Re: ]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Where we going to find a DIN sized Mr Fusion though?

- Trevor

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