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#9868 - 26/06/2000 08:23 More aggressive threading on playlist functions
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
I love the new "tweak order" functions in beta 11, and I love the ability to shuffle and unshuffle on-the-fly. I don't love the fact that it sometimes pauses the playback of the current song to get those jobs done. I know we were warned that it would happen on long playlists, but this is a wish list, right?

Example: Yesterday I took a long drive with my family. I was shuffling the contents of the whole player. I had the "now and next" screen up and I was using the new "swap next" key to make sure that nothing wife-disturbing came up. Once, during a James Taylor song, I looked down and noticed that a Nine Inch Nails tune was next on the list. Obviously that wouldn't please mommy, so I hit the "8" key to swap in another song. The James Taylor song hiccuped while it did that. My wife said "why did you do that?", and then got mad at me when I tried to explain the technical details.

Anyway, is there a way to multithread those functions a bit more aggressively so that they don't interrupt the playback of the current song?

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#9869 - 26/06/2000 12:07 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: tfabris]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
I wonder, how much technology in this world is driven by women getting angry at men. hmm.

Calvin


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#9870 - 26/06/2000 13:19 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: eternalsun]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
I wonder, how much technology in this world is driven by women getting angry at men. hmm.

ROFL

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#9871 - 26/06/2000 14:36 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: tfabris]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
women!

Calvin


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#9872 - 27/06/2000 01:53 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: eternalsun]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
women!

...can't live with 'em, can't live with 'em!

mysogynist of the year award, 1908

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#9873 - 27/06/2000 08:23 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: schofiel]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Hmmm. Should I speak up for my sex here? Nah :)

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#9874 - 27/06/2000 17:51 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: Laura]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
I wouldn't. Might be dangerous.

Hugo
(who's been watching the FX network's adverts: http://www.adcritic.com/content/fx-network-the-x-show-reporter-sex-dan.html ;) )


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#9875 - 28/06/2000 16:03 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: altman]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
i wonder how quickly features might come to fruition and bugs fixed if empeg limited hired a good number of women programmers. you know, with all the complaints going around...

Calvin "grumble"


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#9876 - 28/06/2000 17:02 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: eternalsun]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Hey, we're on the look out for great C++ programmers of either sex. Ok, women would redress the balance of the 100% male empeg staff... still, there are two females in the building, just not working for empeg.

Hugo



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#9877 - 28/06/2000 19:57 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: altman]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
I had a lapse there when reading altman's message, thought I read: [looking to hire women...] "..women would redress the 100% male staff..." whooooops!! :)

My company has exactly 1:1 male to female ratio. (programmers!)

I suspect empeg is only hiring in england. btw: have you considered moving to the silicon valley? :) :)

Calvin


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#9878 - 28/06/2000 20:03 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: altman]
steveb
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Registered: 07/06/2000
Posts: 55
Loc: Sugar Land, Texas, USA
Hey, we're on the look out for great C++ programmers of either sex.

Too bad I don't live near empeg (the commute from Texas would be a killer) or I'd be all over that (assuming the pay was there)! In any case, as soon as I get my Mark II and my StrongARM development kit, we'll see what I can come up with!

Steve


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#9879 - 30/06/2000 04:34 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: Laura]
teemcbee
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Hmmm... I wonder how the status "journeyman" would fit to Laura

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#9880 - 30/06/2000 05:55 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: teemcbee]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
The cost of gas for my Nova (which gets about 8 MPG on 93 octane with a bottle of 120 octane boost added) would be a little excessive in the commute to England. Anyway, I am just a lowly tech and know very little about programming. Any computer tech jobs over there? I am in need of a job :)

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#9881 - 30/06/2000 06:03 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: Laura]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
G** A*******, 8 MPG with octane booster!!! What on earth have you got under the bonnet, a 2,000 ci V16?

And here's me thinking 23 MPG in a 2.5 litre 6 was excessive

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#9882 - 30/06/2000 06:12 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: schofiel]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
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Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I've got a Chevy small block 350 V8 engine rated at 350 HP. It would probably do a little better on the gas if I didn't spend so much time launching it at the stop lights but then it wouldn't be quite so much fun. Once it gets on the drag strip in a few weeks it will get about 2 to 3 MPG. But that is why they put a gas station right across the road, you need it. Well I didn't have it built for fuel economy.

Laura

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#9883 - 30/06/2000 06:24 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: Laura]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Once it gets on the drag strip in a few weeks it will get about 2 to 3 MPG.

The drag strip?!

A female, muscle-car-driving, plane-flying Empeg fan, and she reveals that she drag races too? Watch out, Laura, some of the guys on this BBS will be giving you marriage proposals pretty soon.

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#9884 - 30/06/2000 06:46 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: tfabris]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Nah, I never got my pilot's license or even make it to my first solo flight. I just watch from the ground or go up with friends, so I guess I won't get any proposals now :) I'll just do my flying in the Nova. I haven't quite got the hang of launching the car and bringing the front end off of the ground yet but I am working on it! I have to learn to do the burnouts correctly too but I want to get a set of used tires to burn up first.

Laura

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#9885 - 30/06/2000 22:37 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: tfabris]
debauch
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Registered: 22/03/2000
Posts: 217
Loc: West Midlands, England
In reply to:

some of the guys on this BBS will be giving you marriage proposals pretty soon.


Tony, Tony, will you marry me?

Oh. No. That's not right.

Erm....

Nick.



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#9886 - 01/07/2000 00:01 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: debauch]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Sorry. Already married. Flattered, though.

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#9887 - 01/07/2000 14:12 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: Laura]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Nah, I never got my pilot's license or even make it to my first solo flight. I just watch from the ground or go up with friends, so I guess I won't get any proposals now :)

Laura, liking to fly certainly qualifies you for a marriage proposal in my book (I don't fly either. Very expensive on these shores and my blood pressure is too high even for equivalent of third class medical )

Drag strip racing, though, goes (together with that odd blend of wrestling and clowning and such) among American pastimes I could never understand... Perhaps I should try both. With my 6'3" and much more pounds than I care to measure I could qualify for the later (another )

Cheers!



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#9888 - 03/07/2000 07:07 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: bonzi]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
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Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
and my blood pressure is too high even for equivalent of third class medical

You can get your medical having high blood pressure as long as you are on medications that are FAA approved (at least in the states) and a recent EKG. I know because I have it and it took me many months of fighting the FAA to finally get my medical back after being revoked. But I did have to sign a form saying that if I felt bad I would not fly that day. As for the proposal, at the moment I am quite happy with someone who happens to be building a RV4 kit plane and restoring a damaged bi-plane so maybe I will end up going for my license again someday. And it helps that he can help me with the Nova repairs, I learned how to replace the heater core this weekend, torque the headers and align the bumpers. :)


Laura

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#9889 - 03/07/2000 14:13 Re: More aggressive threading... (well, not quite) [Re: Laura]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
You can get your medical having high blood pressure as long as you are on medications that are FAA approved (at least in the states) and a recent EKG.

Regretably, my blood presure is too high and unstable even under medication (you know, the standard cocktail: beta-blockers, diuretics and those enzyme inhibitors, I forgot which). And if they do manage to bring it low enough to satisfy the rules, I feel very drowsy. So, the planes are to me something like porn: I can only watch :) (I once managed to fly a 250 miles hop in a jump seat in Airbus A320 cockpit. Wow, what a videogame! :)

As for the proposal, at the moment I am quite happy with someone who happens to be building a RV4 kit plane and restoring a damaged bi-plane so maybe I will end up going for my license again someday.

Lucky guy! BTW, is RV4 that small metal taildragger that reminds somewhat of Extra-300? Wow, it will be even better pocket rocket than your Nova!

Cheers!

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#9890 - 05/07/2000 10:42 Re: More aggressive threading... (well, not quite) [Re: bonzi]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
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Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I'm not sure what an Extra-300 looks like but a RV4 is a tandem 2 seater and yeah they go pretty fast. Don't give up, maybe they will find a medication(s) that will be right for you, it took many tries for me to feel just right.
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Lucky guy!


Thanks but I think we are both lucky!

Laura

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#9891 - 05/07/2000 12:56 Re: More aggressive threading... (well, not quite) [Re: Laura]
bonzi
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Thanks for support, Laura. And of course, it takes two lucky people to make a perfect couple.

Extra-300 is (I think German) aerobatic airplane in which most of the current champions (including Patty Wagstaff) compete.

BTW, I think we should take this thread to private area or direct mail; it has became way off topic (unless, of course, others find it entertaining )

Cheers!


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#9892 - 05/07/2000 13:34 Re: More aggressive threading... (well, not quite) [Re: bonzi]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
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I think we should take this thread to private area or direct mail; it has became way off topic

Not really, it's still on target. Note that the subject is on threading, though you guys aren't too aggressive yet . .

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#9893 - 07/07/2000 23:44 Re: More aggressive threading... (well, not quite) [Re: Henno]
bonzi
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Not really, it's still on target. Note that the subject is on threading, though you guys aren't too aggressive yet . .

:)


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#9894 - 03/08/2000 12:22 Re: More aggressive threading on playlist functions [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Just wanted to post a follow-up here and say that I was just stress-testing the "tweak order" functions in Release Candidate 1, and none of them seemed to induce any pauses. Bravo!

(Okay, as long as I don't hit "swap next" multiple times while the hard disk indicator is lit up, then it doesn't pause. If I hit it a bunch of times right after a track switch and the hard disk indicator is up, it hiccups just a tiny bit. But for normal usage, I think the hiccups are pretty much gone on the tweak-order functions.)

Activating shuffle still induces a very short pause, but de-activating it seems to be great. This is understandable since it's going to a lot of trouble at shuffle time.

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