#315023 - 14/10/2008 20:37
Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5546
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
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I already have a couple of empegs, so I didn't investigate this very closely. Does it look useful? tanstaafl.
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#315027 - 14/10/2008 21:01
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
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The Neo is pretty old. There's a comparison chart linked from the FAQ.
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#315052 - 15/10/2008 11:47
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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Registered: 29/03/2005
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I owned one. It sucked! (But at the time was more in my budget than a new empeg)
Edit: some reasons why it sucked: - Durability: Flimsy plastic with a bit of thin metal around it - 3.5" disks, they can't withstand car use. You could use a 2.5" one with a converter, but that meant extra connections that could come loose. - The random bug: If you had a playlist on random, it would start playing the same songs in the same order every time after bootup. - backlit lcd screen, doesn't look right on a dashboard.
One good thing i can remember was the ide bay for in the pc (flimsy plastic again though), that meant faster music transfers than the usb on my mk1
Edited by Schido (15/10/2008 13:32)
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#315113 - 16/10/2008 14:27
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Wow- that's pretty cool! Hmm- the last Ural 'concert' I heard was when I was on the freeway with one of these and the rod bearings went to lunch.
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#315148 - 16/10/2008 20:38
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5546
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
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I was on the freeway with one of these and the rod bearings went to lunch No trivial problem, that. That engine uses roller bearings for the main bearings and connecting rod bearings, and to replace them the crankshaft has to be completely removed from the engine case, then pressed apart so the crankpins can be replaced (if necessary) and the new roller bearings pressed on. BTDT. tanstaafl.
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#315150 - 16/10/2008 21:23
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
[Re: tanstaafl.]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
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I was on the freeway with one of these and the rod bearings went to lunch No trivial problem, that. That engine uses roller bearings for the main bearings and connecting rod bearings, and to replace them the crankshaft has to be completely removed from the engine case, then pressed apart so the crankpins can be replaced (if necessary) and the new roller bearings pressed on. BTDT. tanstaafl. LOL- naw... just pop in a new motor. They're cheap.
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#315182 - 17/10/2008 14:27
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5546
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
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I thought all Russian bikes were designed to be fixable by a hammer and a hunting knife... Good eyes! I just glanced at the picture and assumed it was a BMW, but you are correct, that is the Russian rip-off. I don't know what mode of engine construction is employed there, but it is most likely conventional split-rod babbit bearings, and not the uber-expensive BMW roller bearing setup. tanstaafl.
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#315197 - 17/10/2008 16:10
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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The bike is a Ural, hence the relevance in my original attempt at humor. ...and yes- roller bearings on the crank, just poor materials and workmanship. I'm pretty sure the knife-and-hammer rules apply to the factory assembly methods, too. Cigarette butts in the gas tank, un-trued spoke wheels, wheel bearings without grease, carb floats that don't, and many other adventures in 'maintenance' are all part of the picture (or *were*, as all my experience is with Russian market bikes instead of 'export' versions).
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#315224 - 18/10/2008 12:25
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Seems a lot like an empeg. But it rips CDs in the car? No good. Still, good to see something similarly well developed.
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#315247 - 19/10/2008 01:38
Re: Re-inventing the empeg. Again.
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/06/2001
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Yes, I actually really have the impression they took an Empeg as a model. Even the layout of buttons and knobs seems too similar: also, why putting the volume knob on the right side, UK-Style, otherwise? Of course, I am just guessing... Anyway, I could not understand from their website if it ONLY gets MP3 from ripping the original CD in the car, or if it also accepts them via other means: usb, ethernet, etc... ? If it only rips CDs in car, that really bad, I think.
Edited by taym (19/10/2008 01:40)
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