#9543 - 18/06/2000 23:37
PaulWay Aleph One mix released
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People of earth, your attention please... Due to a sudden bout of inspiration, I am happy to announce the next PaulWay mix, called Aleph One. This trance / techno mix is all focussed around 138-142 BPM, and it's 71 minutes long so that those of us without empegs (e.g. me!) can play it while we wait for that wonderful announcement to turn up... I'm going to trial posting the URL here, and see if that overloads Dionysius' server (he's kindy lending his file space and high-speed connection, so please don't abuse it!). http://mail.mse.ufl.edu/~pway/alephone.mp3 Please mail me at [email protected] for the track listing. (I should put these listings up on a web page some day...) Please also let me know if you liked it or not, and if you have any particular recommendations of songs for me to listen to :-) Enjoy, PaulWay Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
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#9544 - 19/06/2000 05:53
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Cool -- its blasting from FL to BC at just under 500KB/s. Currently half-way done with 1m30s left on the clock. Too bad I have to step out the door as soon as I click [Continue]
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#9545 - 19/06/2000 07:51
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damn; took me longer then that to transfer it from our older server to my laptop on a local 100mb net! (415k/sec to be exact...)The copy that's on the web is on a faster machine then the ftp server that I downloaded from though - which probably explains the speed difference... What's your net connection?
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#9546 - 19/06/2000 11:13
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> What's your net connection?
Just cable. Took almost exactly 3 minutes to pull. I was a little surprised actually. Then again, Monday morning around 2am PDT is probably the least-traffic time in the week.
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#9547 - 19/06/2000 13:29
Re: PaulWay Aleph One mix released
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PaulWay: Although I usually only listen to dance/trance/electronica in the car, I am already thinking about burning a copy for the car, and I am only about 7 minutes into it.
Actually...argagargarg. Its variable-rate!? I won't be able to turn that into a big .WAV file at a constant bitrate very easily, now will I?
Hey, there's some Dune references in the voice overlays...
Anyway, I like it. Its got enough variety, and no beat or theme seems to stagnate as in poorly-done minimalist works. Haven't listened too hard to analyse the patterns yet, but its cool, man.
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#9548 - 19/06/2000 14:13
Re: PaulWay Aleph One mix released
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Actually...argagargarg. Its variable-rate!? I won't be able to turn that into a big .WAV file at a constant bitrate very easily, now will I?
In the case of Variable Bit Rate (VBR) MP3 files, they are referring to the data bitrate, i.e., the amount of compression is what varies. The sampling rate (i.e., 44.1khz, 16-bit stereo) doesn't change and should be the same as a CD.
So I think it's safe to say that you won't have any trouble converting it to .WAV and burning an audio CD of it. Relax.
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#9549 - 19/06/2000 15:02
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Man, accidentally checked brain at door there.  I think I know why: Went through hell once to get a 48kHz track to convert down to 44.1kHz with minimal loss so I could burn it. The result was a lot of audible quantization artifacts (I believe) but was good enough. Stupid me: I saw the fidgeting bit-rate and made a snap assumption based on that half-remembered issue I had with sampling-rate. Thanks Tony. - -- ----- -- - Queue # 5723
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#9550 - 19/06/2000 15:55
Re: PaulWay Aleph One mix released
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I think I know why: Went through hell once to get a 48kHz track to convert down to 44.1kHz with minimal loss so I could burn it. The result was a lot of audible quantization artifacts (I believe) but was good enough.
Funny, I happen to be going through something similar right now, although my problem is bit depth instead of sampling rate. I've got some 24-bit wav files that I need to convert down to 16-bit so that they'll open in my editing software. Seems like that would be a pretty simple conversion that could be done by a piece of freeware, but I'm having a hell of a time locating such a utility.
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#9551 - 19/06/2000 15:59
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(you probably already have it, but) SoundForge perhaps?
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#9552 - 19/06/2000 16:10
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In reply to:
I've got some 24-bit wav files that I need to convert down to 16-bit so that they'll open in my editing software.
I use Cool Edit Pro, and it has no trouble at all doing that sort of thing.
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#9553 - 19/06/2000 16:16
Re: PaulWay Aleph One mix released
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Actually...argagargarg. Its variable-rate!? I won't be able to turn that into a big .WAV file at a constant bitrate very easily, now will I?
No. Send me USD$50 and I'll send you the pure WAV mixdown. :-)
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Hey, there's some Dune references in the voice overlays...
That's Astral Projection for you :-) I've yet to get into sampling voice stuff and placing it in mixes. When I get an idea of a theme, though, I'll think about.
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Anyway, I like it. Its got enough variety, and no beat or theme seems to stagnate as in poorly-done minimalist works. Haven't listened too hard to analyse the patterns yet, but its cool, man.
Ta. I'm still not 100% happy with it; I think it was a bit of a rush job and I forced it to work rather than letting it flow naturally. But that's me being criticial. Glad you enjoyed it.
Have fun,
Paul
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#9554 - 19/06/2000 16:22
Re: PaulWay Aleph One mix released
[Re: Fogduck]
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(you probably already have it, but) SoundForge perhaps?
4.5 is complaining about an invalid bits-per-sample size on these files. I'm downloading the 4.5g update to see if that fixes it. (Hey, it just finished, I'll go try it...)
And Paul:
I use Cool Edit Pro, and it has no trouble at all doing that sort of thing.
I just have an older version of CoolEdit which refuses to be friends with these files.
Thanks for the suggestions, guys, still working on it...
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#9555 - 19/06/2000 16:39
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I'm downloading the 4.5g update to see if that fixes it.
Grrr. Nope, didn't help.
These files are multiple tracks: each a 44.1khz 24-bit mono file, each one representing an independent mixer channel. They are direct-to-hard-disk recordings of a concert some friends and I performed a few months ago. The person who did sound for us records everything that way and saves it off for future use. He sent me a burned CD of these tracks so that I could mix them down myself. I'd hate to have to trouble him to dither them down to 16-bit for me, since he was going out of his way to burn the CDs and mail them to me at all, and I assured him that my software could handle 24-bit files. But even the latest version of SoundForge says "the specified file contains an unsupported bits per sample size".
I think that the files may have been recorded with a recent version of Cakewalk, because of the presence of a ".wrk" file in the folder with the wave files. You guys wouldn't happen to know anything about that, would you?
I've got more options to explore before I give up, though. I have a friend who works for EMagic, and he's got a boatload of tools and will definitely be able to help me. I was just hoping that I wouldn't have to take up any of his time with this project.
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#9556 - 19/06/2000 17:11
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But even the latest version of SoundForge says "the specified file contains an unsupported bits per sample size".
Heh, a search on DejaNews tells me that SoundForge doesn't actually open 24-bit files. They're still stuck in the 16-bit world. It'll gleefully give you the file attributes and tell you that the file is 24-bit, and it gives the option to use 24-bit precision on its plug-in calculations, but it seems as though it won't open or create a 24-bit file at all. Sigh, guess I'll have to drag the discs over to my friend's house...
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#9557 - 19/06/2000 19:19
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I use wavelab, which handles 24-bit files just fine.. I think you can download a demo from here... It's a high-end program from Steinberg, the same people that make cubase.. -mark ...proud to have owned one of the first Mark I units
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#9558 - 20/06/2000 08:28
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You've got Quietman - Sleeper in there :)
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#9559 - 21/06/2000 06:30
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In reply to:
ou've got Quietman - Sleeper in there :)
Good heavens, do I? Why, so I do - how singularly amazing. Well spotted, that man.
Any other recommendations? Mail them to me at [email protected]!
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#9560 - 21/06/2000 07:10
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People, Due to the huge response of people downloading from the link provided, Dionysius has had to move the file to another location in order to cut down on the bandwidth usage on his server. Please email me at [email protected] to be informed of the new URL. This way I can keep the load on his server to a reasonable average. Thanks, PaulWay Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
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#9561 - 21/06/2000 07:15
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Hmm.. more then 3.8GB (4034783930 bytes to be exact) transferred in less then 24 hours; I didn't realize that many people on this board had fast connections:)
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#9562 - 21/06/2000 09:14
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I don't - it took over 7 hours to download... I just kicked it off and went to sleep. For some insane reason I trusted the pc to hang up the phone properly  Geoff ---- ------- Saving hard for a Mark 2...
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#9563 - 21/06/2000 14:34
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Hey PaulWay,
What is the name of that piece that (seemingly) kicks in at around 28:54?
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#9564 - 21/06/2000 15:23
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In reply to:
What is the name of that piece that (seemingly) kicks in at around 28:54?
...it sounds like three drives on a vinyl/massive drive (greece 2000, green record, side A)
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#9565 - 23/06/2000 03:49
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At 28:23 (fade-in start) you get the Matt Darey remix of 1998 by Binary Finary.
The complete track listing doesn't look very nice in this format, so mail me and I'll send you a copy.
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#9566 - 26/06/2000 01:20
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So ...
Is there an 'AlephSpawn' on the horizon?
I'm looking forward to it; I just got back from a weekend getaway, and AlephOne is some damn nice roadtrip music! Keep up the great work!
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#9567 - 26/06/2000 06:23
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Is there an 'AlephSpawn' on the horizon?
Forgive my ignorance, but exactly what are we talking about when we say "Spawn" here?
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#9568 - 26/06/2000 08:25
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... another 'sudden bout of inspiration' or whatever you want to call it. Was just wondering if there was going to be any more of these mixes coming from your creativity; I really liked this one, and was hoping to hear some more.
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#9569 - 26/06/2000 23:36
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Not to be picky or anything, but how about a 'Sample' track so that we can get the flavour of the track before downloading the monster?
Cheers,
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#9570 - 27/06/2000 13:40
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Good idea! I'll do a sort of three minute "Trailer" at a low Kbps (Fraunhofer gives good quality at low sample rates) for the next one.
Dunno when that's going to be, though; life is busy at the moment.
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#9571 - 28/06/2000 00:22
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Sounds groovy. Let us know when you get time to let this one 'outathebag'  . Paul. Paul Haigh, 6GB, Blue Reg: 4120 - Serial 00254
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#9572 - 28/06/2000 05:57
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Hey, Paul, I'm about 30 mins into Aleph1 now (during my commute), and I gotta give you props! It really does make great driving music. Do you mind if I burn a couple audio CD's of it to give to friends (it IS copyrighted :) .
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