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#291266 - 09/12/2006 00:10 Rancilio Silvia and Rocky.
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
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Anyone know what I'm talking about? Any CoffeeGeeks lurking here?

- Jon

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#291267 - 09/12/2006 13:56 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
Yep. I just bought a new Macap M4 and Vivaldi II a couple of weeks ago. My caffeine intake has gone up considerably.

I upgraded from a 12-year old Estro Profi (aka Saeco Rio Vapore, or Starbucks Barista), so it's a big improvement. What do you like to drink?

--Dan.

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#291268 - 09/12/2006 14:10 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: djc]
jbauer
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Dan,

Wow, that's some nice stuff. I'm JUST getting into it. Been reading like a mad-man. Only got my Rocky so far, and am waiting for my Silvia to arrive...

I've been playing around with making good press pot, and I'm planning to make epsresso's and latte's, mostly.

We have 2 extremely good coffee roasters/brewers in SF - Ritual Roasters, and Blue Bottle. Drinking their stuff has really inspired me to get into this. Plus, working from home full time means I need to be able to make a good cup without having to go to one of those places daily...

- Jon

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#291269 - 09/12/2006 15:35 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
Jon,

The Silvia/Rocky combo sure is a classic. The Silvia looks especially nice with its recent facelift. Like the empeg, these machines offer lots of opportunity for hacking and upgrading along the way, adding to the fun and geek-appeal.

We have some good cafes and roasters here in Chicago, too. I walk past Intelligentsia every day, as well as a cafe that stocks beans from Metropolis across town. I use Intelligentsia Black Cat most often (hard to beat 2 lbs for $14 on 2 lb-tuesdays!).

I may get into roasting my own someday, but for now I'm still learning the art of grinding and pulling a good shot. I don't drink many milk drinks, so it's hard to hide a bad shot. My favorite things about the new setup so far are the quietness of both the M4 and the V2 compared to the machines they replaced, and the direct-plumb line on the V2. It's been fun playing with it over the past few weeks.

I've been reading more at home-barista.com than CG lately. The CG forums are just slow enough to try my patience. Good information at both, though.

--Dan.

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#291270 - 09/12/2006 18:48 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: djc]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
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Loc: Manchester UK
Wow, and I thought the IT related threads are full of jargon and TLA's
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#291271 - 10/12/2006 14:48 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: djc]
jbauer
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Yeah, I've read about Intelligentsia - sounds like a great place. I see that they offer a class - have you done that?

I agree - the CG forums can be so damned slow. I'll check out home-barrista. Thanks for the tip.

- Jon

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#291272 - 12/12/2006 20:16 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
jbauer
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#291273 - 12/12/2006 20:31 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
If those idiots who work at Starbucks can figure it out, I'm sure you'll have no trouble.
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#291274 - 12/12/2006 22:19 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: wfaulk]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
Quote:
If those idiots who work at Starbucks can figure it out, I'm sure you'll have no trouble.


So why, specifically, are people idiots if they work at Starbucks?
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#291275 - 12/12/2006 22:21 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: webroach]
jbauer
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Oh no! Not another empeg BBS debate! Am I always causing a controversy?

- Jon

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#291276 - 12/12/2006 22:22 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
Quote:
Oh no! Not another empeg BBS debate! Am I always causing a controversy?

- Jon


No, people making sweeping generalizations without any basis in fact are.
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#291277 - 12/12/2006 22:23 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
Quote:
Oh no! Not another empeg BBS debate! Am I always causing a controversy?

- Jon


On topic, though, congratulations! You've gotten a very nice setup going there!
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#291278 - 12/12/2006 22:26 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: webroach]
jbauer
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Quote:
Quote:
Oh no! Not another empeg BBS debate! Am I always causing a controversy?

- Jon


On topic, though, congratulations! You've gotten a very nice setup going there!


Thanks. Any empeggers in the Bay Area (or visiting) are welcome to visit my coffee shop and be my guinea pig...

- Jon

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#291279 - 13/12/2006 14:15 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: webroach]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Okay, revamped statement:

If those idiots who work at the Starbuckses near me can figure it out, anyone can.

There is nothing about working at Starbucks that directly implies idiocy, but there are verifiable idiots who do work at the Starbuckses I go to, and they can do it.
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#291280 - 13/12/2006 14:25 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
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Back in my dark days of graduate school, our department had a fancy Italian espresso machine, grinder, and they'd apparently even hacked the ROMs from the "American" settings to the "Italian" settings (whatever that meant).

I found that getting good espresso was pretty simple, but foaming the milk properly is where the art comes in. My officemate was able to consistently get a solid inch of foam floating above the top of his mug. His technique was all about keeping the steamer head at the very top of the milk, rather than just heating up the whole thing uniformly.

These days, I save espresso drinks for emergencies. One shot of espresso and I'll be wired for the whole day and have trouble getting to sleep.

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#291281 - 13/12/2006 14:26 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: wfaulk]
jbauer
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I agree that working there doesn't directly require idiocy, but I'm sure that this state of mind helps in 1) making all of their sub-standard, psuedo gourmet drinks and 2) dealing with their self-important, obnoxiously demanding, double parking, order barking, double soy latte drinking, spoiled rotten, BMW X5 driving clientele...

- Jon

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#291282 - 13/12/2006 14:50 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: jbauer]
tonyc
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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I agree that working there doesn't directly require idiocy, but I'm sure that this state of mind helps in 1) making all of their sub-standard, psuedo gourmet drinks and 2) dealing with their self-important, obnoxiously demanding, double parking, order barking, double soy latte drinking, spoiled rotten, BMW X5 driving clientele...



I probably got this link from the BBS at some point, but for the benefit of anyone who hasn't seen it yet...

Small, Medium, Large. (NSFW, language.)
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#291283 - 13/12/2006 15:47 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: DWallach]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
The milk just gets in the way.

My standard Starbucks order:
4-shot espresso.

Usually gets a reaction from the clerk too, which is fun. A 'regular' cup of coffee does very little for me.

I could care less what it looks like or what cup it comes in, so long as the espresso has a good flavor.

-Zeke
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#291284 - 13/12/2006 20:37 Re: Rancilio Silvia and Rocky. [Re: wfaulk]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
Quote:
Okay, revamped statement:

If those idiots who work at the Starbuckses near me can figure it out, anyone can.

There is nothing about working at Starbucks that directly implies idiocy, but there are verifiable idiots who do work at the Starbuckses I go to, and they can do it.


LMAO!

Touché! And yeah, I can definitely sympathize. There are a few of those an the ones I go to, as well.
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