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#155450 - 15/04/2003 10:41 Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Just wanted to note i couldn't apply the v2 final upgrade over serial while my player was docked in Mlord's dock. I'm guessing it's something with the serial speed being set to car speed or something. Do it out of dock and it works fine. Mark? Quick explanation? =]
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#155451 - 15/04/2003 10:47 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: loren]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Well, yes. That is to be expected. The upgrade process requires the external (undocked) configuration, based on some code optimization that does not check for upgrades when in a car configuration. Software (hijack) will not fake this out.

If you have a dead power supply, though, and cut off the plug, you can insert this into the dock and perform upgrades through it. I know - trust me... The physical presence of the plug overrides the upgrade (skip) at boot.
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#155452 - 15/04/2003 10:54 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: loren]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quick explanation? =]
As quick as they get: FAQ entry.
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#155453 - 15/04/2003 11:02 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: tfabris]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
yeah... i figured as much. i just thought Mark might have played some trickery... since the empeg thinks it's on AC in his dock, i figured that the empeg would also look for the upgrade. But i guess the physical presence of the plug is necessary.
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#155454 - 15/04/2003 11:07 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: loren]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
The upgrade process is started by firmware on the empeg that's run before the kernel is loaded. It checks the AC/DC status itself based on the position of the leaf switch inside the AC power socket (it's not actually AC at that point, but you know what I mean). There's not any way to modify this code without physical changes to the empeg, so there's not really any way to change this.

I suppose it might be possible to change the socket in the empeg so that the leaf switch is replaced with a reed switch that could be activated by a magnet or solenoid inside the dock.


Edited by wfaulk (15/04/2003 11:10)
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#155455 - 15/04/2003 11:18 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: wfaulk]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
ahhh. thanks for the thorough explanation. =]

move along, nothing to see here.
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#155456 - 15/04/2003 11:47 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: loren]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
What about just using the ethernet updater (that I haven't looked at at all yet)?

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#155457 - 15/04/2003 11:59 Re: Can't upgrade while docked in Mlord's dock [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
The upgrade process is started by firmware on the empeg that's run before the kernel is loaded.
You know, I should beef up the text of the FAQ entry so that part is made more clear.
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#155458 - 28/04/2003 15:23 My Solution [Re: tfabris]
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