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#118584 - 30/09/2002 14:58 hijack not autoupdating using jemplode
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
jemplode keeps telling me i must have an ethernet connection and hijack installed to upgrade hijack.
check and check
both are there, and hijack is a higher version than 242, which is what i thnk jemplode specified the first time.

also the animation download and upload otions dont work either, stating a similar error.

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#118585 - 30/09/2002 15:01 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: RobotCaleb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
i must have an ethernet connection

Are you using the ethernet connection to connect between Jemplode and the player itself?

Have you password protected the Hijack servers on the player?

Can you connect to the Hijack web services from the same PC that's giving you the Jemplode error? (http://<yourempegaddress>)
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#118586 - 30/09/2002 15:15 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Are you using the ethernet connection to connect between Jemplode and the player itself?

a direct cable connection, no. ive my empeg plugged into my rats nest

Have you password protected the Hijack servers on the player?

no

Can you connect to the Hijack web services from the same PC that's giving you the Jemplode error? (http://<yourempegaddress>

yes

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#118587 - 30/09/2002 15:51 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: RobotCaleb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Then I'm stumped, sorry. Mike?
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#118588 - 30/09/2002 16:09 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: tfabris]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I had this same problem. What I figure is that the Fujitsu drives are junk! But I found a work-around. I put a small 5GB IBM drive in mine as the slave drive, and everything works. Take it out, and I have the exact same problems you have. I really think it is the drives. I figure the fact that you can't auto update hijack doesn't fall under the warranty... besides the Fujitsu I have is my 3rd one. If you can get a spare drive to check it out, do it.
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#118589 - 30/09/2002 18:30 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: Waterman981]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14477
Loc: Canada
Bull-puckey.

The drives have nothing at all to do with self-updating Hijack, unless perhaps Jemplode has some such dependency (unlikely).

Try FTPing to your Hijack'ed player -- http proves nothing here -- FTP is required for the update function.

-ml

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#118590 - 30/09/2002 19:25 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: mlord]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
I'm getting the same thing. I can FTP, but can't login. It is like it still has a password set, even though I removed the entry. However, trying the password I had set doesn't work.

Now, if I go in and set a password, then I can get in just fine. As soon as I try and remove it, I run into the same problem...

b13, v293


EDIT: Wait, I got it. I set:

kftpd_password=

Unplugged the empeg. That didn't work. So, then I completely removed the line (again, it was gone before the previous step), and unplugged it. Plugged it back in and now I'm up to v298.



Edited by ricin (30/09/2002 19:39)
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#118591 - 30/09/2002 19:33 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: ricin]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
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Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Hey, I can't explain it, but it worked. Mike and I tried to figure it out back in march here.
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#118592 - 01/10/2002 05:28 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: ricin]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14477
Loc: Canada
The "empty" password you had in config.ini must have had trailing spaces/tabs. If it was REALLY empty, it would have worked as you expected (I just verified this on my own unit right now).

cheers

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#118593 - 01/10/2002 05:51 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: mlord]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
In reply to:

The "empty" password you had in config.ini must have had trailing spaces/tabs.


Or perhaps a trailing carriage-return? If it was transferred using FTP from a CRLF system using "binary" mode, perhaps.
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#118594 - 01/10/2002 06:29 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: tms13]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14477
Loc: Canada
>Or perhaps a trailing carriage-return?

Naw, Hijack handles those just fine.

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#118595 - 01/10/2002 08:52 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: mlord]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
I thought I checked for that, but that could've been it.

It was just odd that, even though the line was completely gone, it still was requiring a password. That is, until I did the add/remove again.
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#118596 - 01/10/2002 10:18 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: mlord]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
well, not sure what was going on yesterday at all.
i plugged in my empeg this morning, opened jemplode, it said v299 hijack is now out lets upgrade. i said sure, why not. it upgraded fine.
it now tells me that my hijack is up to date if i click on update hijack.

strange.

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#118597 - 01/10/2002 10:20 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: RobotCaleb]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Is that really your license plate?
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#118598 - 01/10/2002 10:26 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: ricin]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14477
Loc: Canada
You probably got confused by the reboot requirement somewhere along the way. Not a player "restart', but rather a good old fashioned cycle-the-power reboot (or Hijack menu reboot). The httpd/ftpd options require a real reboot before certain changes can be recognized.

-ml

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#118599 - 01/10/2002 10:33 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: tfabris]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Is that really your license plate?

yep, and yes

hmm... i dont think that that was the problem mark, as yesterday wasnt the first day it didnt let me update it, and since i take it home with me every night it had to have been power cycled.

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#118600 - 06/10/2002 16:44 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: mlord]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
I have Hijack v293 installed at the moment, and hijack won't autoupdate for me either. In my case ftp seems to be broken too though. I can open an ftp connection to the empeg, and some commands such as cd, pwd and ? work, but ls and dir return:
500 Bad Command
200 Okay
150 Openning Data Connection
and then it just sits there doing nothing until I kill the session.

I don't have any kftpd_passwork line in my config.ini either. Here is what I do have in the Hijack section:
[output]
notify=1
[hijack]
temperature_correction=-3
suppress_notify=1
disable_bass_boostFM=1
volume_boost_FM=6
volume_boost_AM=-2
kftpd_show_dotfiles=1
khttpd_show_dotfiles=1

I'm running Mac OS X, but that shouldn't really effect anything here. Any suggestions (apart from loading the newest Hijack over serial - can't get to a machine with a serial port for a couple of weeks ...).
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#118601 - 06/10/2002 17:32 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: Derek]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
See if removing the show dotfiles lines helps.
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#118602 - 06/10/2002 17:44 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: tfabris]
Derek
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Loc: NRW, Germany
nah, not a sausage
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#118603 - 06/10/2002 17:45 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: Derek]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
A full power-cycle of the player (pull the power plug) was done after removing those lines? Not just a synch?
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#118604 - 06/10/2002 18:03 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: RobotCaleb]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
I've been curious about this for a while now, how do US number (licence) plates work?

In the UK they uniquely identify the vehicle which in turn gives traceability to the registered owner.

I've seen on this board two 'empeg' number plates and now a highly desirable and I guess duplicable 'h4xor' plate and was wondering.....
If you get seen speeding or knocking little old ladies down, how are the police gonna get ya'? I presume they can and do but how?

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#118605 - 06/10/2002 18:03 Re: hijack not autoupdating using jemplode [Re: tfabris]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
yep, realised that. Did it too. Didn't help :-( Put *seems* to work, so if I could remember the name of the flash device I could try loading a new kernel ... am not so sure if I want to risk it though. An empeg that works fine, albeit with an older kernel, is much much better than an empeg with no kernel at all!! ;-)
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#118606 - 06/10/2002 18:18 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: AndrewT]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
They are unique to each U.S. state... Rob in New York, Tony in California.
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#118607 - 06/10/2002 19:24 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: Waterman981]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
And to elaborate on the state thing...

Each state in the US has some things that are governed differently for each state. Vehicle registration and even some traffic laws differ from state to state.

For instance, in some states, it is legal to make a right turn onto a street against a red light, as long as you stop and check for oncoming traffic (treat it like a stop sign), in some states it is not. It's rather frustrating when I'm behind a person with out-of-state plates and they are waiting for the red light to turn green before turning right.

We pay both state and federal taxes, and the taxes are different from state to state. Some states have a sales tax, others do not, for example. And property and income taxes and the tax laws vary from state to state.

Some states do not allow you to pump your own gas, there are no "self service" pumps in those states.

I haven't been to Utah in a long time, but when I was there last (nearly 20 years ago), restaurants were not allowed to serve Alcohol on Sunday. My stepfather insulted a waitress when she wouldn't serve him a martini when we stopped in Utah on a cross country trip.

So it does get kind of confusing.
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#118608 - 06/10/2002 19:35 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: tfabris]
jets
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Registered: 08/07/2002
Posts: 237
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Geez...I thought Quebec was the only place in the modern world that had that wierd rule obout no right turns on reds. AFAIK, it's the only province in Canada that has it. It really sucks too.
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#118609 - 07/10/2002 06:07 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: jets]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
actually the rest of the modern world doesn't allow you to turn right on reds (or left for that matter in countries where they drive on the left). It's only you strange people in North America that allow it. We all have to wait for green arrows to be allowed to do that (although in Germany they are sometimes painted on!)
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#118610 - 07/10/2002 09:01 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: Derek]
smu
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Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Hi.

It even makes a difference if the green (right) arrow is painted or lit:
A lit arrow tells you that you can turn without paying much attention to traffic from other directions, all you have to care about are pedestrians who might have a green (aka "walk") light as well as you.
A painted arrow tells you that you are allowed to turn, but only if the other traffic allows it (you have to stop first). Of course, pedestrians might still be crossing the road you want to turn to, so you also have to watch them.

Personally, I think this is a helpful way of handling right turns on red lights:
You are generally not allowed to turn right on red, except expresssively allowed. The different handling of green light and green paint might be confusing at first, but it still has it advantages to those who plan traffic flow and traffic control as well as for the drivers themselves.

cu,
sven
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#118611 - 07/10/2002 09:14 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: jets]
jaharkes
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Registered: 20/08/2002
Posts: 340
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Pennsylvania allows right turns on red, however here in Pittsburgh there are probably too many intersections where this would lead to accidents. So most intersections have these big 'No Turn on Red' signs.

We do have the Pittsburgh left to compensate for the loss in right turns.
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#118612 - 07/10/2002 09:56 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: smu]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Loc: London, UK
In the UK, we've figured out how to sequence our traffic lights so that pedestrians don't get a green light at the same time as the traffic .
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#118613 - 07/10/2002 10:30 Re: Customer Number Plates [Re: Roger]
Ezekiel
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Well here in the US most places we don't care about the pedestrian. It's only when the body count gets too high do we bother with crosswalks, lights and perhaps beepers for the blind.

Ever see Deathrace 2000?

-Zeke (in an evil mood)
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