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#187305 - 30/10/2003 10:58 Empegface
Skunk
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I was upgraded to XP at work and run empegface to control my MKII but with one small problem. To aviod the VB/CPU issue, I minimize empegface when in use, only thing is that when I bring the face back up, it does not grab the screenshot. I have to right click, configure and clik ok to "refresh"
Is there a way around this?
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#187306 - 30/10/2003 11:30 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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That's odd. It shouldn't have to do that. I'm not sure what could be going on there. I'll take a peek at the code to see if there's anything in there that might cause it. That certainly didn't happen on any of my test systems.

Are you going by direct IP address or by network name?
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#187307 - 30/10/2003 11:34 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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IP address. Although it is not static, once I am plugged in, it never changes.
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#187308 - 30/10/2003 11:53 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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This is just an off-the-cuff experiment, dunno if it has anything to do with it, but give this a shot.

(It's just the EXE, not the whole install.)


Attachments
186092-Face.zip (50 downloads)

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#187309 - 30/10/2003 12:10 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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Nothing.........I placed the exe within the Empegface folder and ran it. Same problem exists.
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#187310 - 30/10/2003 12:26 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Hm. Anyone else who runs XP having this problem?
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#187311 - 30/10/2003 12:29 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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When it is "frozen", in other words, when it's not grabbing the screen shot, what are the contents of the file ~001empeg_screen.~tm located in the system's temporary folder?
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#187312 - 30/10/2003 13:01 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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Not quite sure what to open it with.
I have two, 000empeg-screen and 001empeg-screen.
001 I opened with notepad and got [Semaphore]
PaintPicture=Start
000 was some kind of code.
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#187313 - 30/10/2003 13:34 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Opening it with Notepad is correct. And the contents were correct, so it's not a desynchronization issue. Darn...

By the way, the 00 file is the actual screen shot in raw mode.
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#187314 - 30/10/2003 13:39 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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Tony, I've just discovered empegface and downloaded it. I've the same problem as above. On my XP Pro with a P4 3gz HT it effectively uses 1 'cpu'. The odd bit is, is if you open the configuration dialog up, the usage drops down to zero. Don't know if that helps or not.

Also, one think I noticed with it (slightly off topic), is that when I installed 2 copies into 2 different directories and ran them with different ip addresses (to talk to my 2 empegs) I found that they both keep flipping between the 2 displays. The poor things. I know it was probably never designed to be run with 2 empegs, but I had to try it.
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#187315 - 30/10/2003 14:32 Re: Empegface [Re: skibum]
tfabris
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Heh, cute, I never envisioned it to be used with two players. They both point to the same download file. Heh.

That's odd you've got the same issue. I'll play with it more tonght, thanks.
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#187316 - 30/10/2003 16:07 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Same issue here.

XP Pro.
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#187317 - 30/10/2003 16:37 Re: Empegface [Re: JBjorgen]
tfabris
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Argh, so there's something I'm doing wrong, I just don't know what yet.

All of you are on XP? Do all of you have really fast processors?
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#187318 - 30/10/2003 16:41 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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#187319 - 30/10/2003 16:44 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Sorry Tony, it's happening to me on XP Home w. a P4 1.6ghz.

BUT...... I hope this thread gets a few people to try this program - it rocks!!! Doing a search will give a few new "skins" too... If any of you have made skins, please submit them to RioCar.org so they are easy to find.
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#187320 - 30/10/2003 17:04 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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my poor 1gz p3 laptop hits 100% running it as well on xp pro. Slowest machine I've got on XP.
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#187321 - 30/10/2003 17:23 Re: Empegface [Re: skibum]
tfabris
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Remember everyone that it doesn't really take up 100 percent of the CPU any more than the Windows "System Idle Process" takes up 100 percent of the CPU. It's just a pain to try to do a timing loop in Visual Basic without it showing up like that on the list. Any time a program needs the CPU, it will yield to it. It's only when all other programs are idle that this one moves to the top of your task list.
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#187322 - 30/10/2003 17:29 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Oh now this is very interesting. On my XP test system, it's not running ImageGrabber.exe when I launch the program.

Those of you having this problem: Can you see ImageGrabber in your "Processes" list when the problem is happening?
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#187323 - 30/10/2003 17:38 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
tman
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It's still not the same as the system idle process however. empegface makes the cooling fans kick in on my laptop as it's looping fast enough to increase the CPU temperature.

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#187324 - 30/10/2003 17:46 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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EDIT: I see ImageGrabber.dll in processes and ImageGrabber.exe in Applications.


Edited by SE_Sport_Driver (30/10/2003 17:51)
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#187325 - 30/10/2003 17:48 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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Tony,

In applications I have imagegrabber, and in processes I have imagegrabber.dll.

laptop fan now going fullspeed as well.
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#187326 - 30/10/2003 17:50 Re: Empegface [Re: skibum]
tfabris
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Right, sorry, I renamed it .DLL so as not to confuse people.

Which explains why it wasn't working on the test system, thanks for the reminder.
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#187327 - 30/10/2003 17:57 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hmmm. Those having the trouble with the screen not getting updated... What's your refresh frequency set to?
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#187328 - 31/10/2003 05:18 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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It does too take 100% --> not everybody runs MS-Wincrap as the native O/S, and apps that chew 100% cpu are a real P.I.T.A. when run inside a virtual machine (eg. VMWare).

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#187329 - 31/10/2003 07:46 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
JBjorgen
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Loc: Columbus, OH
60 hz
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#187330 - 31/10/2003 08:09 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
skibum
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mine are 60hz as well. Dual screen DVI if that matters.
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#187331 - 31/10/2003 12:49 Re: Empegface [Re: JBjorgen]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I'm sorry. I didn't mean the computer screen refresh frequency. I meant, what number is in the EmpegFace configuration screen that tells it how fast to download the screen shots?
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#187332 - 31/10/2003 13:16 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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Tony,
I'm @ 1000 milliseconds
but it doesnt work even with the defult of 100.
1.3.1 does the same.
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#187333 - 31/10/2003 13:16 Re: Empegface [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Thanks. Does it work at 0?
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#187334 - 31/10/2003 13:53 Re: Empegface [Re: tfabris]
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yep!
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