exactly, this is *years* after the Trustworthy Computing Initiative started.. makes you wonder what they define as trustworthy.

Moreso I think SP2 is kind of like recompiling with Electric Fence or something. from what I understand, they put in stack guarding type code to prevent buffer overruns. that's why it's a huge install (it's every file in the OS nearly, recompiled) and it runs slightly slower.

proper auditing of their product years ago could have saved the world a lot of hassle. So, now they're building walls (treating the symptom) around the real problem, all the while poking at the media and dropping quotes about the hundreds of millions being spent in the interest of security, for their customers..

Spybot is the best anyways, and it's free. it's just a very very tough beast to automate with automation tools..

MS has no where to go but down at this point
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