Granted, I don't have either player, but I'm more willing to buy an Archos product before the iPod. Granted, the Jukebox devices don't have firewire, but they have been file taxis since they came out, before the iPod. Plus, the new recorder (besides being able to record), can be upgraded. Amazon is selling a 20GB one for about $325-$350 IIRC. That's a more impressive file taxi to me. Plus I can use it with Windows now