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#102842 - 03/07/2002 16:00 COLOR Empeg ?????
belezeebub2
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Registered: 19/04/2002
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I was poking the local Electronics Swap meet and I ran into a COLOR LCD Display that if my memory serves me correctly is almost the same size at the VFD in my Empeg...
In a flash the Geek side of my brain switched into COOL new toy mode and I picked it up for 20 bucks... But I digress

So back to my question has anyone given any thought to a EMPEG II that would be color or and maybe with a few more bells whisles I would glady max out my Visa for one. I know we have some real brain power here so I though I would pose the question and see if anyone bites



The display is out of a "1/2 VGA" hand held computer its a tad bigger then the empeg Face (DAMMM)

I would still be willing to MAX out my visa for a color Empeg or even a Remote dash mounted face plate (maybe touch screen)

I have already tried the display Export then running it to a computer then out to a 5in lcd didn't like it (too fuzzy)



Edited by belezeebub2 (03/07/2002 16:33)

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#102843 - 04/07/2002 01:33 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
thinfourth2
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Talk very nicely to patrick if money is no object if it can't be done by patrick (pca) it can't be done !
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#102844 - 04/07/2002 04:34 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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u consider haveing a laptop or other computer running color visuals? and port the song titles and what not from hijack?
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#102845 - 09/07/2002 08:44 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: justinlarsen]
belezeebub2
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Registered: 19/04/2002
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I tried that it works but I was looking to do it with out the added space of a laptop..

it seems to me that there might be some way to add a Daughter card for VGA out heck even CGA or EGA would work a Standard RGA would be nice then I could tie it into the video system and display it back to other monitors. I would gladly fork out 1000 or so to get this done.


More info
I have 4 Video Displays, DVD player, 2 Side looking mini camera and a Cheap FLIR system (Forward looking IR camera) All of this is shoehorned into a baby blazer so this leaves little room for the laptop

1 Display in each sun visor and 1 in each seat headrest
Camera's are the little 30 Dollar Ebay ones that are mounted in the extra space in the side view mirror mounts, IR camera is a 11 IR led X-10 Style in a custom water proof box mounted in the front grill.

EMPEG (my pride and Joy) Wired to a Pioneer EQ 9200 (only thing the Empeg needed was a Sub out)

Diamond s600s Speakers all around and 2 Mack Daddie 10 in the back. And just to Dim the head lights at adle an Xtant 604 for the doors and a Xtant 1001 for the Subs.

The whole thing just screams "YES I AM A COMPUTER GEEK, and I do own an Offical BORG something"




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#102846 - 09/07/2002 08:57 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
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Loc: Dallas, TX
sounds interesting. Do you have some pics you could show us?

Thanks!

Sean

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#102847 - 09/07/2002 09:54 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Terminator]
belezeebub2
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Registered: 19/04/2002
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I suppose I can dust off the camera and Fire off a few shots.

Give me a week or so Right now the Box is out at the local wood workers shop I didn't like the carpet so he is redoing it in flat black piano style (I think that would look better)



Edited by belezeebub2 (09/07/2002 09:56)

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#102848 - 09/07/2002 10:05 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Terminator]
TommyE
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Registered: 08/06/1999
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I want to see pictures too.


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#102849 - 09/07/2002 10:23 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
belezeebub2
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Registered: 19/04/2002
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I checked out Ebay the Camera I have are still there here is a few photos till I can get time to show the finished products

This is a photo of the Camera's in the side view mirrors (I hot gluded them in place and Drilled a 1/16 hole for the camera, then I covered the hole with a Small piece of clear plastic


Attachments
102460-bs2.jpe (54 downloads)



Edited by belezeebub2 (09/07/2002 10:25)

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#102850 - 09/07/2002 10:26 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
belezeebub2
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Registered: 19/04/2002
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This is the camera mounted in the front grill (I'll post a installed photo once I fire up the scanner and get one ready


Attachments
102463-DSC05000.jpe (53 downloads)


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#102851 - 09/07/2002 16:35 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
TommyE
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You can get the camera from www.lik-sang.com as well.
I think it is the same one, they even got B/W or color.

TommyE

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#102852 - 10/07/2002 08:41 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
belezeebub2
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Let me repharse the Question..
I have seen add on digital outs for the Empeg, add on tuners we have some Major brain Power here how hard would it be to make an ADD on VIdeo card so you could connect the empeg to a LCD screen..

So come on fire up that grey matter and lets see it.


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#102853 - 10/07/2002 09:36 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
rob
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The people who attended the Europe 2002 empeg meet have a pretty good idea how hard it would be, and how incredibly cute the result could be. But they're not allowed to talk about it. I'm one of them so I'd better shut up now.

Rob

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#102854 - 10/07/2002 14:33 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: rob]
belezeebub2
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Hey No fair.... you can't come in here drop a "I know something I won't tell line" thats not fair...

/em Pouts

Pretty please with sugar on top

I'll give you a candy bar if you tell me.

What can I Say I am single, no family no bills no life I enjoy my toys and my next toy has to be a Color Empeg.


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#102855 - 10/07/2002 14:33 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: rob]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Oh that's just mean ... No pictures? No more info? Is this leftover animosity over that whole independence thing that we Americans went after?

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#102856 - 10/07/2002 14:44 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: mschrag]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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In reply to:

Is this leftover animosity over that whole independence thing that we Americans went after?




When dealing with those from that island off the coast of europe, you have to remember that they GAVE us our independence, and that the whole war for independence was just us blowing things out of proportion.

Matthew

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#102857 - 10/07/2002 18:50 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: matthew_k]
justinlarsen
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Loc: Petaluma, CA
they also game us empeg
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#102858 - 10/07/2002 22:40 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: justinlarsen]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
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Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
But we gave them cars to mount said empegs
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#102859 - 10/07/2002 22:47 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Waterman981]
music
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Registered: 25/06/2002
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But we gave them cars to mount said empegs

Um, I assume when you said "we" that you must be posting from Germany or Japan, right?

(And as we shift topics to a worthless "my car is better than your car" debate, we can officially kiss this thread goodbye.)

Flame on.

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#102860 - 11/07/2002 06:14 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: music]
thinfourth2
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Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Yeah he must be posting from japan he drives a jap car
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#102861 - 15/07/2002 11:25 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: thinfourth2]
g_man_max
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Not all Japanese car owners are from Japan, but how many scottish car owners are there outside scotland ? or in fact inside ? ;-)

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#102862 - 15/07/2002 12:06 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: thinfourth2]
Waterman981
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Actually I have just been indoctrinated <sp> by the American School System to thinking it was Henry Ford. Another great example of brainwashing... quick search, it was Karl Benz, of Germany... I apologize...
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#102863 - 15/07/2002 16:04 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: mschrag]
grgcombs
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Registered: 03/07/2001
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Come on now, that just like saying all Australians are convicts. Everyone knows they're all really Paul Hogan.
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#102864 - 15/07/2002 16:06 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: grgcombs]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
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I though they were all Yahoo Serious or the Crocodile Hunter .. oh well..

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#102865 - 16/07/2002 00:06 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: mschrag]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
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Loc: Brisbane, Australia
No, no and no.

While you're having a dig at us Aussies... We don't drink Fosters regardless of the advertising that the rest of the world sees.

Sorry but I feel that it is very important piece of information. There are only few of us here and I feel I should stand up for us.
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#102866 - 16/07/2002 00:58 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Shonky]
frog51
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All Hail Victoria Bitter and Tooheys!!!
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#102867 - 16/07/2002 08:39 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Shonky]
grgcombs
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I don't suppose everyone there eats at Outback Steakhouse either?

Next vacation we take, I think we're going to Australia and New Zealand. Watch out for those crazy Texan tourists.

g
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#102868 - 16/07/2002 14:37 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: g_man_max]
thinfourth2
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Actually there is a scottish built car the imp
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#102869 - 16/07/2002 16:52 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: thinfourth2]
belezeebub2
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Registered: 19/04/2002
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Not to pee on anyone bar-b-que but is there any chance of getting back on topic??? I would really like to see an Empeg with a remote face or one in color that would hook to my video system...


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#102870 - 17/07/2002 04:36 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
thinfourth2
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Okay what you want excists and i have seen one in action it is very cute but very expensive and if you want one you have to talk to patrick/pca as he has built a few of them.

trust me you will geek out at it if you could convince you to sell you one.

I am saying no more as i have probably said too much
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#102871 - 24/07/2002 23:19 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Shonky]
svferris
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We don't drink Fosters regardless of the advertising that the rest of the world sees.

Heh, we just threw a birthday party for one of our co-workers who is from Australia. A bunch of people dressed up like the Crocodile Hunter. We had blow up crocodiles laying around. We even had the dog wearing a T-shirt that said "Dingo" on it.

When he walked in, we yelled "Surprise" and gave him a giant can of Fosters. He didn't seem very happy about the beer choice...I think he switched to the good stuff right after.

I, myself, tend to only drink microbrews.
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#102872 - 13/08/2002 19:22 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: belezeebub2]
Scorp1us
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Registered: 03/01/2002
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I don't know hwo this could be done w/o the source code to the empeg.
Sure, you'd have to make a new kernel, and if you're lucky you could use one choice color, but as for muliple colors, it's all have to be re-written to support more bits per pixel.

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#102873 - 13/08/2002 19:26 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Scorp1us]
wfaulk
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I believe that the visuals are actually run as a separate process, so it might be conceivable to replace the stock visuals with full color ones by rewriting that application.

Of course, it wouldn't be trivial, but it'd probably be easier than rewriting the entire player.

Also of course, I could be totally wrong about that.
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#102874 - 13/08/2002 20:21 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: wfaulk]
Scorp1us
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See the kernel code already supports 4bpp - 16 color, which gets squashed to 2 color, then to 1 color, but with PWM grey scale. But the application doesn't mean to write it in color, jsut grey scale. So I could give you from black to [insert your favorite color here], rotate thgouhg colors and such, but the entire display woul dbe shades of one color. As far as I know the "application" is not open source... adn that would give us a really cool display!

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#102875 - 14/08/2002 03:04 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: wfaulk]
Roger
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Also of course, I could be totally wrong about that.

You are. They're mapped into memory as a location independent binary image, and then called in-process. The API consists of some kind of jump table, and the registers have to be set to various things. It's been a while since I looked at it, but that's basically how it works.
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#102876 - 14/08/2002 09:26 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: Roger]
wfaulk
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Nuts. I could have sworn I saw a separate process running having to do with the visuals. I suppose I should just keep my ill-informed answers to myself from now on.
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#102877 - 14/08/2002 10:31 Re: COLOR Empeg ????? [Re: wfaulk]
Roger
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pthreads makes each thread appear as a separate process under 'ps'. This might explain your hallucination. Or maybe it is the drugs. Or the lack of saturated fats.


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