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#138435 - 01/02/2003 01:48 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: johnmcd3]
Turboegt
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Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
oopps.......

Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Player exited normally: 0
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# rw
empeg:/empeg/bin# rwm
empeg:/empeg/bin# rw /empeg/var/database
empeg:/empeg/bin# rom
empeg:/empeg/bin# ro
empeg:/empeg/bin# exit
logout
Shell exit
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta13 2002/07/24.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 24 2002
Vcb: 0x4086d000
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N32
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x4b0
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TLove Is Alive
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ A3rd Party
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ G
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N32
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x4b0
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TLove Is Alive
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ A3rd Party
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ G
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:43
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 170:@@ S1
! mp3_decoder.cpp :1049:Failed to find valid sync after seeking to offset 2601
410, error=0xc0044000
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:44
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:45
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:46
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:47
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:48
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:49
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:50
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:51
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:52
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:53
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:54
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:55
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:56
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #4b0 0:02:57

Stopped responding again. I then rebooted the player and again after a few seconds it froze up. The music is the leased of my concerns at this piont. Like I said before there is actually very little on the player right now so if I have to loos it to get the player working again it is not a big deal. I have it all backed up, twice.

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#138436 - 01/02/2003 02:34 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
mcomb
pooh-bah

Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
rw /empeg/var/database

Still not correct, should be...

rm /empeg/var/database

(note the "rm")

-Mike
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#138437 - 01/02/2003 09:30 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31064
Loc: Seattle, WA
In addition to removing the database (which it looks like you still need to get right), you also need to:

- Start the player without a tune so that it boots up to "end of playlist". (FAQ entry linked earlier in this thread.)

- Synch once with emplode. (As described in the FAQ entry about removing the database.)

After that, do *not* choose a playlist. Just let the player sit there at "end of playlist".

NOW does it stop responding after 8-10 seconds? Or does it work OK up until you start playing tunes?
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#138438 - 01/02/2003 10:39 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: tfabris]
jane
enthusiast

Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
My player sdhowed similar symptoms, It would work as usual for a short time and then the buttons would not work anymore, but the screen continued, and the ethernet connection also continued to work.

After a while, the buttosn stopped wortking alltogether (IR also stopped working together with the buttons)

Carsupport tought it might be the displayboard-pic, and a replaced display board fixed it.

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)

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#138439 - 01/02/2003 10:45 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: jane]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31064
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yup, exactly. The diagnostic steps we're trying to list, above, are intended to narrow down whether it's a software problem (such as corrupted MP3 files), or whether we should start looking at hardware problems such as the one you are describing.
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#138440 - 01/02/2003 12:24 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: tfabris]
Turboegt
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Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
OK, now that I have had a little sleep lets see if I can get it right this time:

Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Player exited normally: 0
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# rw
empeg:/empeg/bin# rwm
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /empeg/var/database
rm: cannot remove `/empeg/var/database': No such file or directory
empeg:/empeg/bin# rom
empeg:/empeg/bin# ro
empeg:/empeg/bin# exit
logout
Shell exit
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta13 2002/07/24.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 24 2002
Vcb: 0x4086d000
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N42
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x530
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TThis Is The Night
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ AAmber
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ G
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 116:@@ N42
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 117:@@ F0x530
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 118:@@ TThis Is The Night
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 119:@@ AAmber
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 120:@@ G
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #0 0:02:23
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 170:@@ S0
! mp3_decoder.cpp :1049:Failed to find valid sync after seeking to offset 2282
436, error=0xc0044000
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:24
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:25
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:26
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:28
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:29
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:30
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:31
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:32
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:33
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:34
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:35
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:36
serial_notify_thread.cpp: 180:@@ #530 0:02:37
stops responding again

Did I do it wrong again. I rechecked it with the FAQ and it looks right.

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#138441 - 01/02/2003 12:38 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31064
Loc: Seattle, WA
It's still trying to play a song, according to the serial output. You need to do this, as was mentioned earlier in the thread, to stop it from playing a song.

Then, you need to continue with the remainder of the instructions here so that the database can be rebuilt.

Once you've done that, do not play a song or a playlist. Boot the player and tell us whether or not it continues its previous behavior of locking up after it's been on a few seconds.

If it continues to lock up, even if it's not playing any songs, then I would consider it highly likely that it's a hardware problem.
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#138442 - 01/02/2003 13:13 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: tfabris]
Turboegt
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Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
OK, I went through the whole process. I restarted not in a play list and everything seened OK. I then synced using Emplode and that went great for a change. I then deleted everything off the player exept two song for test use and resynced. To my suprise that went smoothly and the player restarted, not in a play list. I started the songs playing to test things and everything was going good but just the RIO/ song name and title/time was on the screen so to really test things out I started messing with the visuals and it started doing the same thing again. To make sure it was something to do with the visuals or that it just happened to lock up while I was messing with them I went back into hyperterm. and set the player to restart out of a playlist. The player is now playing fine, with controls and "stock" visual just fine but as soon as I mess with the visual setting it freezes again. This is sounding like the display board as per other post but I am just guessing. You guys are the Empeg gurus, not me, LOL.

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#138443 - 01/02/2003 13:49 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4144
Loc: Cambridge, England
The player is now playing fine, with controls and "stock" visual just fine but as soon as I mess with the visual setting it freezes again.

Which visual are you selecting? Can you name a specific one that fails every time?

Peter

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#138444 - 01/02/2003 14:29 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: peter]
Turboegt
new poster

Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
OK, it seens like all the individual visuals are working fine but here is the strange thing. If you select one visual it will work fine but if you select Auto Change, either On Track or Time Out, the visual will play till it needs to change to the next one the then goes to the RIO visual and stays there. I have tried just about very combo I can think os to make it work or not work and all end with the RIO visual on next change and it just stays there. When it freezes is when you select Random under the Select Mode section. Does this help you guys any.

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#138445 - 01/02/2003 16:58 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Are you running any custom visuals? Did you upload or replace the empeg "tux" graphic?
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200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs

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#138446 - 01/02/2003 17:13 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: pgrzelak]
AndrewT
old hand

Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
I saw the following in his first posted bootlog further up this thread:

Found custom animation at offset 0x9f750
Scheduling custom logo


- Is that what you were referring to?

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#138447 - 01/02/2003 18:13 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: AndrewT]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Not really. You can substitute out your own graphic for the tux. I am just wondering if it could be a corrupted image, and if that would cause this problem.

Can anyone else reproduce this problem?
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200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs

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#138448 - 01/02/2003 18:27 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: pgrzelak]
Turboegt
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Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
No. everything should be back to "stock" for the most part

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#138449 - 02/02/2003 11:19 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: pgrzelak]
Turboegt
new poster

Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
Where did everyone go. Still need to figure out what is going on with my poor Rio. I have not done anything to the Tux graphics so I do not think it is that. Any other ideas?????

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#138450 - 02/02/2003 13:37 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31064
Loc: Seattle, WA
The player is now playing fine, with controls and "stock" visual just fine but as soon as I mess with the visual setting it freezes again.

Hm. It wouldn't happen to be this or this would it?
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#138451 - 02/02/2003 13:39 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: tfabris]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
OOOH! Nice! I forgot about those!!!
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Paul Grzelak
200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs

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#138452 - 02/02/2003 17:55 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: tfabris]
Turboegt
new poster

Registered: 30/07/2002
Posts: 24
Loc: Fl, USA
WOW, thanks Tony. I take back everything bad I ever said about you, HeeHee, just kidding. But you are "the man". I cleared the config ini. file and then did a sinc Emplode. I entered in my info and resinced and now it seens to be working A OK. Thanks again to you and everyone else for the help. The upside to this is now I know a lot more about the workings of the player which is cool. The down side is now I get to reload all the cool Kernals, hacks, boot logo, web interface and all my music. Fun Fun!!!!! At least now I have a working play. I am going to mess with it more here tonight and post back one more time just to make sure. Any ideas of how this happened?


Again to everyone-BIG THANKS FOR EVERYONES HELP!!!

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#138453 - 02/02/2003 19:38 Re: HELP half dead RIO [Re: Turboegt]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31064
Loc: Seattle, WA
Any ideas of how this happened?

Yes. If it's the bug I think it is, here's how it worked:

If you used Emplode 2.0 beta 11 and created a list of Favorite Visuals, there was a bug. Each time you synched more than once in the same Emplode session, Emplode would append instead of replace the list of favorite visuals. So if you made a change, hit Sync, then made another change, and hit Sync again, then it would instantly double the size of your favorite visuals list. There are some limitations to how the player can use config.ini, so once config.ini gets too big, things go wonky. And as you know, the way exponential numbers work, it doesn't take too many of these double-syncs to reach that point.

I didn't think to check this until you started talking about auto-switching visuals. Sorry we didn't think to check it earlier.

Please check to make sure you've updated your Emplode version (not the player... emplode) to the latest version, which has this bug fixed.
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