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#148771 - 24/03/2003 12:24 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
totally forgot to address your question about pigment. no milky white as far as I can see. I've tried mixing pigments to get different colors... that doesn't work so great. Here is a list of tints available, it's the first thing on the page. I currently have Yellow, Blue and Red....
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#148772 - 24/03/2003 17:30 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Ok so I'm going to try my hand at making buttons for my self, but I'm not an "artist" so it might end up being a good laugh for me.
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#148773 - 24/03/2003 20:16 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
If you can find a custom jewelry shop that does lost wax casting, they should have an investment table like this table which is very good for what you are trying to do.

If you're just looking for a pump, link. It's not cheap but it works very well.

Also if you get a decent mold, I would be interested in couple sets of buttons cast in jeweler's wax. I can get them cast in metal from there.

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#148774 - 24/03/2003 21:09 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Ummm should the LED's be on at like the lowest level when the Empeg is in standby (note they are set to full when playing and are completely off if I set the level to off).
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#148775 - 25/03/2003 03:48 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
pgrzelak
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Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Yes. You can change that behavior with a buttonled_off option in config.ini. See the FAQ.
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#148776 - 25/03/2003 17:10 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: pgrzelak]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Shazbot! busted for laziness too.
Sorry I should have looked.

Thanks though for the info.
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#148777 - 25/03/2003 19:46 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Well I have to say that even without buttons to go with my new lights it still looks sweet, and makes a sort-of cool blue ring around the knob.

Is the transistor number MMBT390DICT-ND (Digikey) been added to the parts list yet?
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#148778 - 26/03/2003 08:43 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
FlibblE
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Registered: 16/02/2000
Posts: 94
Loc: UK - NE Wales
Got a picture? This sounds pretty cool without the translucent buttons!
Cheers

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#148779 - 26/03/2003 11:17 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
Is the transistor number MMBT390DICT-ND (Digikey) been added to the parts list yet?
It is now


Edited by lopan (26/03/2003 11:18)
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#148780 - 26/03/2003 17:11 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: FlibblE]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Sorry no, I wish I had a digital camera to take some, else I have to wait and pay to get pictures developed.

Hopefully soon I'll buy a digital camera.
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#148781 - 28/03/2003 15:05 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
Posts: 504
Loc: Lummi Island, WA
So what do you think the ETA is going to be on these LED installs?
I'm ready now; chomping at the bit, as it were. As soon as you say go, I'm there.

Not trying to hurry you of course, I know youre busy with your fingers in many other pies.
I've already been waiting over a year for Brian's kit, so I can wait a bit longer.
I was just curious.
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#148782 - 28/03/2003 15:11 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: fusto]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
Mmm.. Good question.

Now that at least one other BBS member is working on making the translucent buttons for us, I don't think I'll proceed with the pinhole version.

But I am still ready and willing to do the LED installs, including the SINGLE knob LED as shown in photographs elsewhere in this thread.

If anyone wants that done, the procedure is to remove the displayboard from your player, package it carefully, and send it to me. I'll get the parts, install/test them, and send it back to you via the shipping method of your choice.

For now, don't do anything, but I would like an idea as to how many others want me to do this for them. I'm in Canada, so shipping is either slow, or more expensive than you may be used to. But if you have more than one player, a week or two of down time isn't such a big deal. I can turn these around in a day or so from receipt.

And.. aw, shucks.. maybe I'll wander down to the shop and drill out some buttons, epoxy them again, and see how they look. Monday. I'm out of town this weekend.

Cheers

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#148783 - 28/03/2003 15:18 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
phi144
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Registered: 15/02/2002
Posts: 314
Loc: New Hampshire, USA
What a guy!
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#148784 - 28/03/2003 15:34 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
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Loc: Lummi Island, WA
Actually, thats all I was looking for. I have the New Face with translucent buttons on order, so all I really need is the LED's soldered on.

Ready when you are!
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#148785 - 28/03/2003 15:59 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: fusto]
phi144
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Loc: New Hampshire, USA
Can we get some pics of the new face? I always like to see them in their "natural" setting.
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#148786 - 28/03/2003 16:00 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: phi144]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
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Loc: Lummi Island, WA
Sure! As soon as its in my hot little hands, Ill break out the digital and post a few.
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#148787 - 28/03/2003 16:48 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: fusto]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
>all I really need is the LED's soldered on.

Okay, email me then and we'll set it up. I have one set of LEDs on hand here for this -- they were destined for one of my own players, but that can wait -- the other two already have them.

Next time I reorder docking connectors, I'll also get some more LEDs. I have eight of the resistor packs and single resistors (for knob) on hand already.

Cheers

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#148788 - 28/03/2003 18:07 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: phi144]
StigOE
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Registered: 27/10/2002
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Can we get some pics of the new face? I always like to see them in their "natural" setting.

You have seen this thread, haven't you??

Stig

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#148789 - 28/03/2003 19:52 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: StigOE]
phi144
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Registered: 15/02/2002
Posts: 314
Loc: New Hampshire, USA
I have seen it. Thanks. I like the pictures in different settings.
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#148790 - 28/03/2003 20:20 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
So lopan how are your buttons coming along, mine suck really bad so far I keep getting millions of tiny bubbles at the surface it's looking like I'll need a miracle or a set from you .
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#148791 - 28/03/2003 20:26 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I keep getting millions of tiny bubbles at the surface
I never worked with the casting stuff when I worked at the jewelry store, but I seem to recall there being some kind of a spray involved... sort of like Pam for the mold or something. I could be wrong... It's been years...
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#148792 - 29/03/2003 01:41 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Ok so now most all the bubbles are gone, cool, but now I realize the mold is crap too. Looks like I'll just need to get better at making the mold.
Did I just see the devil in an arctic jacket? Naw must be all the fumes.
"Today was a bad day to stop sniffing glue..."

Ok ok so I'm really really tired.
Night anyone that might be up still.
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#148793 - 29/03/2003 12:27 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
FlibblE
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Registered: 16/02/2000
Posts: 94
Loc: UK - NE Wales
Not to worry, I'll just have to get off my butt and do it myself! Incredible to think there's another person on this BBS without a digital camera

Cheers.

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#148794 - 29/03/2003 13:54 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: FlibblE]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
Yeah I just can't justify getting the one I'd want to buy, considering I can't justify $300 for an "ok" digital camera.

Oh and a side note I finally did it after all this time and energy I did it. I fininaly, with out a doubt, irrefutably have proved that I am the must inapt human on the face of the earth when it comes to arts and crafts stuff.
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#148795 - 29/03/2003 18:02 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: phi144]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
I drilled pinholes in my buttons quite a few months ago and posted the pics here
and here.

aw heck, here's the pics:





There is also a pic of one of Tim's NewFaces on my empeg with lit buttons here

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#148796 - 29/03/2003 19:12 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: Derek]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
You need a knob-LED with that new faceplate!

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#148797 - 29/03/2003 19:23 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: Derek]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 193
Loc: New Richmond, WI
So can the knob on the NewFace be lit up too?
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#148798 - 29/03/2003 19:57 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
I believe I have seen a photo of one lit up, elsewhere on the BBS.

Cheers

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#148799 - 29/03/2003 20:16 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
So lopan how are your buttons coming along

Got my vacuum pump... ran out of my trial size of plastic... ordered a gallon of the stuff (this time longer setting, figured it might help in degassing if I didn't have to worry about it setting up in my container)... Have some spray mold release I might try... so if I can get the bubbles out I should be able to start doing something with this within the next two weeks.
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#148800 - 29/03/2003 21:13 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
StigOE
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Registered: 27/10/2002
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So can the knob on the NewFace be lit up too?

Yup. Attached is a picture of my NewFaced Empeg with lit NewKnob (crap picture though...) This is with a 4-led board (homemade using Brian's pictures).

Stig


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